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BSC Tournament?
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OldHornet
Active member
Congratulations to Wanless, Gonzales, the Administration, and the Sac St Students - your inability to act like a D1 program has finally caught up to you! How is it that after almost 20 years, no one has developed a realistic or achievable plan? Even if the Hornets don't win the regular season, all of this negative publicity has become a complete embarrassment.
Well Done!!
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Well Done!!
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OldHornet said:
Thank you! For saying what 200,000 alumni are thinking right about now.
Makes us alumni proud. :clap: Think I'll go rip the Sac State window sticker out of my car.
Really embarrassing that a regional JC is being considered, and a city in another state.
In secret, the morons in charge of J St. had hoped this day would never come. I'd like to see this blown up bigger than Pamgate. Maybe a lampoon by ESPN is what it takes to get something built?
Hope the next button pushers have a back bone.
Hornet Fever
Active member
Just to add more embarrassment to the situation I remember back in 1988 which was the last time the Hornets made any kind of basketball playoffs. The Hornets were the number #1 seed in the Western Region and ranked 5 or 6 in the country for Division II. They could not host the four bracket tournament at the Nest as the gym was too small. They got shipped out to Hayward(now is Cal State East Bay) to be the number #1 seed in the West which back in that day was very unusual. Hayward had bigger gym and they got to host the tournament.... It's funny and embarrassing that this situation was going on almost 30 years ago.
Kadeezy
Active member
This thread is full of vitriol and hate... And I approve.
I hope we win out (of course for the sake of winning out), and then the whole alumni community just gives the middle finger to Gonzo and Wanless and the current lame brained student body. They deserve to look like the do-nothing soft heads they are on a national stage...
I hope we win out (of course for the sake of winning out), and then the whole alumni community just gives the middle finger to Gonzo and Wanless and the current lame brained student body. They deserve to look like the do-nothing soft heads they are on a national stage...
josephpoint
Active member
I remember that NCAA west region opening round at Hayward State. Sac State was indeed the number 1 seed and ranked highest in the West. It was Sac State, Hayward State, Cal Poly and Alaska Anchorage. I went to the games. The packed house cheered Alaska Anchorage on to victory over Cal Poly and then cheered their Pioneers on to a victory over the Hornets. Then Hayward State beat Alaska the next day and went all the way to the finals that year before losing. Even when Hornet Gym could hold up to 2,400 with extra bleachers from the baseball field brought in that year for games, it was not enough. Nearly 30 years ago and indeed here we are again. This has simply got to be a top priority of the new AD and new President. Enough is enough. And I do think that the negative attention is a good thing. Good things can come out of bad situations that continue to get no attention. No solutions. No efforts. 215,000 alumni and growing by 7,000 graduates a year plus the current 29,000 students are waiting and waiting for something to change and for something to get off the ground for a new facility. Something, anything. How do you built a new arena. YOU START. One dollar at a time. Get it started. Let's GO
Curious about the mention of the WELL being a facility that could host the Big Sky tourney? How can the courts at the WELL accommodate 3,000 fans or more? Interested to know more on this point.
Curious about the mention of the WELL being a facility that could host the Big Sky tourney? How can the courts at the WELL accommodate 3,000 fans or more? Interested to know more on this point.
I agree with pretty much everything that has been posted, here is my $0.02. This is 100% on Gonzo. The students did their part in 2004 and got the event center (and rec and wellness center) student fee passed. I just wish these articles would do a better job of doing their research and holding Gonzo’s feet to the fire as to why a student approved event center was never built.
Macriss inherited this situation but I have to start questioning his ability to raise the bar. Last summer in the Hornet Club Town Hall meeting he pinned all the hopes of a new arena on the student vote this past fall. He was told at the meeting that it had no chance of passing but insisted that a student vote was the way to proceed. Well predictably he was dead wrong as the students overwhelmingly rejected the fee and now the event center issue has to start from scratch.
Macriss has a relationship with the Sacramento Sport Commission and if in fact he has been looking for a venue for over a year then I have to wonder why nothing has been found. Sure the bigger venues were probably booked for over a year in advance, but I have to think there would be something in the area to use. With that in mind how much influence and denigrations has the BSC played into this? They have publicly claimed that no high schools was the only restriction, but have certain venues in the area (I’m thinking JC venues) been found only to be rejected by the BSC brass?
I have to imagine Katz is laughing at this whole situation and shaking his head in disgust. He has witnessed first hand the incompetence of Gonzo to get a facility built and now Macriss’ inability to answer the programs needs. He is bound to get some offers from decent universities this off season and I have to think he will take the massive pay increase. He has to know a new facility isn’t coming anytime soon. I hope the players can ignore all this embarrassing and negative press and keep playing at a high level. I would hate to see this situation impact the effort on the court.
Only positives I can see from this situation are 1) the embarrassment forces Gonzo to make a move before he leaves (very doubtful IMO) 2) the incoming president sees this embarrassing situation and makes an event center a top priority or 3) this kicks Macriss and the rest of the AD in the ass to publicly get an athletics capital improvement fundraising effort going.
Macriss inherited this situation but I have to start questioning his ability to raise the bar. Last summer in the Hornet Club Town Hall meeting he pinned all the hopes of a new arena on the student vote this past fall. He was told at the meeting that it had no chance of passing but insisted that a student vote was the way to proceed. Well predictably he was dead wrong as the students overwhelmingly rejected the fee and now the event center issue has to start from scratch.
Macriss has a relationship with the Sacramento Sport Commission and if in fact he has been looking for a venue for over a year then I have to wonder why nothing has been found. Sure the bigger venues were probably booked for over a year in advance, but I have to think there would be something in the area to use. With that in mind how much influence and denigrations has the BSC played into this? They have publicly claimed that no high schools was the only restriction, but have certain venues in the area (I’m thinking JC venues) been found only to be rejected by the BSC brass?
I have to imagine Katz is laughing at this whole situation and shaking his head in disgust. He has witnessed first hand the incompetence of Gonzo to get a facility built and now Macriss’ inability to answer the programs needs. He is bound to get some offers from decent universities this off season and I have to think he will take the massive pay increase. He has to know a new facility isn’t coming anytime soon. I hope the players can ignore all this embarrassing and negative press and keep playing at a high level. I would hate to see this situation impact the effort on the court.
Only positives I can see from this situation are 1) the embarrassment forces Gonzo to make a move before he leaves (very doubtful IMO) 2) the incoming president sees this embarrassing situation and makes an event center a top priority or 3) this kicks Macriss and the rest of the AD in the ass to publicly get an athletics capital improvement fundraising effort going.
Kadeezy
Active member
josephpoint said:
Not sure if you've been to the WELL, but the basketball court area is as big as about three of the Nest's footprints (or more). There is plenty of room to throw down a mat, bring in a temporary court and our stantions and add 3,500-5,000 temporary seats. It would actually look like we had a legitimate Arena on TV. I'm not sure what this would do logistically to the WELL's normal activities or what sort of talks need to happen to use a "student only" facility for an NCAA event...
josephpoint
Active member
yes, have been the the WELL several times. So so excited when the students in your day SD voted it in and paid the extra cost. Proud of you all. It's a beautiful facility and was excited to see it being built and was so excited to see the final stage of the arena being built. And then it wasn't. And I think even the promise of swimming pool s at the WELL were cut as well.
I know the area of the WELL you are talking about. Think it has a running track up top around it. Would be great if bleachers could be brought in and the the Big Sky tourney held on campus in this campus jewel that the students 10 or more years ago made happen.
The key to bringing Sac State up in Div I sports remains the same as it did many years ago.
A new arena and improvements to the football stadium. Get that done and Sac State is big time. Why hasn't it been done? Everything else has been done accept these two things to bring Sac State up to big time. It's just such a mystery and so incredibly bad on the administration. Those who select a new AD and a new President need to really do their work. This issue has gone on for 20 to 30 years now.
I know the area of the WELL you are talking about. Think it has a running track up top around it. Would be great if bleachers could be brought in and the the Big Sky tourney held on campus in this campus jewel that the students 10 or more years ago made happen.
The key to bringing Sac State up in Div I sports remains the same as it did many years ago.
A new arena and improvements to the football stadium. Get that done and Sac State is big time. Why hasn't it been done? Everything else has been done accept these two things to bring Sac State up to big time. It's just such a mystery and so incredibly bad on the administration. Those who select a new AD and a new President need to really do their work. This issue has gone on for 20 to 30 years now.
superhornet
Active member
Yes, Gonzo gets some of the blame as the perpetrator of ye olde bait and switch. But the blame for the inertia here goes back to The Fat Man. He established that nothing would be done, and his successor has continued in that philosophy. We HAVE to get a sports-minded president, or we're going to be looking at this ANOTHER 20 years from now.
SMH....
SMH....
HornetHope
Active member
This issue will continue to be an issue until some well funded alumni with some clout start a ground swell campaign to get it done. i cannot believe we are going to let the conference tell us where we can host the tourney. No better time than the present to grow a pair...
josephpoint
Active member
Good point Hornet Hope.
We wait and wait for the administration to get something done about the facility issue which has gone on way before this board was even create
Someone, something outside of the Sac State administration needs to step up. Once something happens, anything, you can bet the support will be there. We have waited too long and time for someone, something to step up and the support will follow. The support that is waiting and waiting to support something, anything. Hello. Be glad to do my part to get a facility improvement campaign off the ground. Be glad to be part of a grass roots effort. Any effort. It is truly not that hard. Just start something. Anything. A non profit organization to build an arena. It's basic 101 fundraising. So many ways to get something started and moving towards a goal. And trust , their are plenty of alumni among the 215,000 out there who would contribute and be happy to . Time to take this issue outside of an administration that has not gotten it done in decades.
We wait and wait for the administration to get something done about the facility issue which has gone on way before this board was even create
Someone, something outside of the Sac State administration needs to step up. Once something happens, anything, you can bet the support will be there. We have waited too long and time for someone, something to step up and the support will follow. The support that is waiting and waiting to support something, anything. Hello. Be glad to do my part to get a facility improvement campaign off the ground. Be glad to be part of a grass roots effort. Any effort. It is truly not that hard. Just start something. Anything. A non profit organization to build an arena. It's basic 101 fundraising. So many ways to get something started and moving towards a goal. And trust , their are plenty of alumni among the 215,000 out there who would contribute and be happy to . Time to take this issue outside of an administration that has not gotten it done in decades.
The Green Hornet
Active member
I've never seen so much media coverage on a Hornets hoops team as I've seen in the last week. Nearly every radio and TV station has talked about the hosting dilemma. Macriss was on CBS 13 yesterday and said that Sac St is ready to use all of the attention on this issue to begin a private donation effort to fund a new events center. I don't think we'll ever get enough funds without asking the students to contribute again (maybe a lesser amount) and the State.
Mayor Kevin Johnson and his wife were at the Portland State game for the first half and during a TV interview I saw later he claimed that "if the Hornets do their job, the city will do its job"; meaning, if we win the conference, they'll find a place for us to play in Sacramento. We'll see; it's true tho - the Hornets need to do their job first and I think Eastern Washington could be a roadblock.
Mayor Kevin Johnson and his wife were at the Portland State game for the first half and during a TV interview I saw later he claimed that "if the Hornets do their job, the city will do its job"; meaning, if we win the conference, they'll find a place for us to play in Sacramento. We'll see; it's true tho - the Hornets need to do their job first and I think Eastern Washington could be a roadblock.
SJHornet
Active member
The situation has been picked up by Stadium Journey
http://www.stadiumjourney.com/news/...onference,-where-will-the-tournament-be-held?
http://www.stadiumjourney.com/news/...onference,-where-will-the-tournament-be-held?
The Green Hornet
Active member
Don't give up 'yet'!
http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2015/2/20/MBB_0220153655.aspxKadeezy said:
Makes a hell of a lot more sense than some of the nonsense the Bee and the BSC representative Loghry were spewing about the situation. Unsurprisingly the Bee failed to even mention the possibility of the Well being used. Quality reporting right there.
None of this takes away from the fact that Gonzo dropped the ball on the events center, but you seriously have to question the comments and bias of Loghry. If he truly was working closely with Hornet admin, methinks there would have been some discussion of the Well long before his derogatory statements about Sac State and the empty threats of having the 2nd place team host the BSCT if the Hornets finish 1st. Just another reason to hate the BSC and their broke dick bias.
Good work by Macriss and the admin to tap into local resources to get this issue resolved. Now get a god damn events center up so this whole facilities issue goes away. :twisted:
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