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Chaves Finalist at UND

rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Here are some emails for everyone to take down. Start sending emails to the President and CC the others to show they're not alone in fighting for answers for our athletes and the state of our athletic programs.

[email protected]
[email protected] (VP for University Advancement)
[email protected] (Interim Director of Alumni Advancement)


[email protected] (Eagle Athletic Fund)
[email protected] (Deputy Athletic Director)
[email protected] (Sr. Associate Athletic Director/Senior Woman Administrator/Title IX Dept. Liaison)

Yow will notice that there in no email for Chaves or phone # he took them down several years ago. He had no interest in your or my input. He destroyed the EAA piece by piece. Ron Raver and then Scott Barnes tok 25 years to build the EAA with its many volunteers. if your old enough you will remember getting call each year f:orm many of us about your annual pledge
Sorry computer is giving me fits.
He stopped that and started using student callers and you lost the personal touch. This was always a hugh event the month before the Killin event. He took the Annual Raver golf event and then the Killin Spring dinner and dance away from the EAA. He told the EAA board that the athletic dept would do a better Job and that the EAA should sign over these events to athletics. You see all the funds went to the EAA and he had to come to the board and ask for those funds each year which they were always given. Then when the board was with out activities he then sweet talked them into changing the bylaws over to the Eagle Athletic Fund and then he had total control and you have no active volunteers to fund raise and participate for Eastern. This group was about 100 volunteers strong and a membership of about 1000 when he became AD. All those 25 plus years of building momentum are all gone and have been for the last 5 or so years.
So now there is no organization to rally the supporters into action and this is one reason why the Stadium project is stalled. It would be fine if we had fat cats to fund these items but we do not.
I just want those of you who are great supporters, that live away from Cheney to know what has happened over the last six years or so. Maybe some of you remember those calls from many of us asking for your annual pledge and telling you what was going on in Athletics.
Now you know why we as supporters are so impotent in this matter. The EAA was your voice and now you have a FUND.
I am sorry it is a sad story.

Ron, I never got a call from the EAA. Instead, I had Tony Carpine stopping by each spring telling me "now kalm, last year you donated $1000. Can we count on you for $2000 this year?" knowing full well that as a young man I was only able to afford $500 the year before. :mrgreen:

Thanks for your efforts and I totally get what you're saying here. As I'm sure you know, these are growing pains issues. Gonzaga and WSU didn't accomplish their facilities and marketing upgrades with mostly volunteer/fan support. If you're going to tackle major capital improvement projects and game changing upgrades, I'm guessing you have to enlist professional fundraising and marketing which means taking things beyond a 10 mile or Wa State footprint and even out of your own athletic department. Volunteers don't have the skill set, resources, or time to market and fundraise on a practically global level and maintain the connections to former players and well heeled alumni who are hit up for donations constantly.

I don't care for and have experienced the impersonality as well with farming this stuff out, but I think it's a reality of continuing to transition from a little train that could directional school athletics program to a full fledged DI that is at least competitive with its conference peers. Is it happening fast enough for us? Nope, but we have extraordinary challenges. Do we still need local connections and support? Absolutely. We need all support, from a dollar donations to millions.

I'm nostalgic about all of this like you appear to be and I think that re-embracing the fantastic group of core locals is perhaps needed at this time. Meanwhile, I'm gonna sit back, continue to donate and support, and enjoy the ride.
 
clawman said:
IMO losing Chaves would be a huge hit. Look back at athletics during his tenure and it is impressive. With that said the really scary thought is SHE would be choosing a new AD. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

This should be our biggest concern, completely agree. The Red Turf, hiring coaches who win championships while maintaing our standards of student excellence, the masterful handling of VA's departure, scheduling PAC 12 games that we won or almost won, getting us off probation in 2009, more than doubling our football attendance while the administration sits idle; the list goes on. The President of EWU has her own agenda, that is her job as the CEO of the school. Apparently that agenda doesn't have a place for the best AD in the Big Sky and according to Aaron Best on a recent Coaches Show, the best AD in the nation. This is a tremendous loss not to just EWU but the region and the entire state.

The current administration at EWU has seen enough growth from EWU Athletics and the lack of VP status for our AD will ensure the status quo remains. What a joke to think the change from the EAA to the EAF is a factor in any of this. Leaders make changes, this was a needed change. But this is all a moot point. There is very little that can be done to alter this besides a change in the President's office. Bill's departure has nothing to do with money or hockey. He makes $174K a year, love the coverage the Spokesman provides but accurate salary figures are easy to find. But again this is a moot point. Cullinan doesn't want Bill here and she runs the school. End of story.
 
JoinTheEAF said:
But again this is a moot point. Cullinan doesn't want Bill here and she runs the school. End of story.

I do not want Cullian here. I am not happy with her leadership and want her to go. How do we make that happen, stat?
 
Seattle Eagle said:
JoinTheEAF said:
But again this is a moot point. Cullinan doesn't want Bill here and she runs the school. End of story.

I do not want Cullian here. I am not happy with her leadership and want her to go. How do we make that happen, stat?
Make a multi million dollar donation...that's how you make that happen!
 
I am a long time donor giving what I can with some years better than others depending on sales. I have seen the Savages/Eagles succeed in fits and starts over the years. The last ten years with AD Chaves in charge have been the best. I hope EWU can keep him.
 
I'm curious how the firing and pending lawsuit from the ex cross country coach will play out with Chavez as a potential candidate at UND. From the SR article, it sounded like he was blind sided and had an unblemished record. There seemed to be a list of complaints - but did the coach ever be reprimanded for any of them? If that's the first he ever had these allegations brought up... that's not very good on Chavez's part. And I'm sure that is something that would be brought up during the interviews next week.
 
kalm said:
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Here are some emails for everyone to take down. Start sending emails to the President and CC the others to show they're not alone in fighting for answers for our athletes and the state of our athletic programs.

[email protected]
[email protected] (VP for University Advancement)
[email protected] (Interim Director of Alumni Advancement)


[email protected] (Eagle Athletic Fund)
[email protected] (Deputy Athletic Director)
[email protected] (Sr. Associate Athletic Director/Senior Woman Administrator/Title IX Dept. Liaison)

Yow will notice that there in no email for Chaves or phone # he took them down several years ago. He had no interest in your or my input. He destroyed the EAA piece by piece. Ron Raver and then Scott Barnes tok 25 years to build the EAA with its many volunteers. if your old enough you will remember getting call each year f:orm many of us about your annual pledge
Sorry computer is giving me fits.
He stopped that and started using student callers and you lost the personal touch. This was always a hugh event the month before the Killin event. He took the Annual Raver golf event and then the Killin Spring dinner and dance away from the EAA. He told the EAA board that the athletic dept would do a better Job and that the EAA should sign over these events to athletics. You see all the funds went to the EAA and he had to come to the board and ask for those funds each year which they were always given. Then when the board was with out activities he then sweet talked them into changing the bylaws over to the Eagle Athletic Fund and then he had total control and you have no active volunteers to fund raise and participate for Eastern. This group was about 100 volunteers strong and a membership of about 1000 when he became AD. All those 25 plus years of building momentum are all gone and have been for the last 5 or so years.
So now there is no organization to rally the supporters into action and this is one reason why the Stadium project is stalled. It would be fine if we had fat cats to fund these items but we do not.
I just want those of you who are great supporters, that live away from Cheney to know what has happened over the last six years or so. Maybe some of you remember those calls from many of us asking for your annual pledge and telling you what was going on in Athletics.
Now you know why we as supporters are so impotent in this matter. The EAA was your voice and now you have a FUND.
I am sorry it is a sad story.

Ron, I never got a call from the EAA. Instead, I had Tony Carpine stopping by each spring telling me "now kalm, last year you donated $1000. Can we count on you for $2000 this year?" knowing full well that as a young man I was only able to afford $500 the year before. :mrgreen:

Thanks for your efforts and I totally get what you're saying here. As I'm sure you know, these are growing pains issues. Gonzaga and WSU didn't accomplish their facilities and marketing upgrades with mostly volunteer/fan support. If you're going to tackle major capital improvement projects and game changing upgrades, I'm guessing you have to enlist professional fundraising and marketing which means taking things beyond a 10 mile or Wa State footprint and even out of your own athletic department. Volunteers don't have the skill set, resources, or time to market and fundraise on a practically global level and maintain the connections to former players and well heeled alumni who are hit up for donations constantly.

I don't care for and have experienced the impersonality as well with farming this stuff out, but I think it's a reality of continuing to transition from a little train that could directional school athletics program to a full fledged DI that is at least competitive with its conference peers. Is it happening fast enough for us? Nope, but we have extraordinary challenges. Do we still need local connections and support? Absolutely. We need all support, from a dollar donations to millions.

I'm nostalgic about all of this like you appear to be and I think that re-embracing the fantastic group of core locals is perhaps needed at this time. Meanwhile, I'm gonna sit back, continue to donate and support, and enjoy the ride.
My point was the supporters of Eastern Athletics have lost the only voice of input to this process. Now all we do is blog in to the air. We no longer have a voice and important input to the process. There is no contact to the Athletic administration and that is exactly what this AD was after.
 
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
kalm said:
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
rontheoldwiseeagle2 said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Here are some emails for everyone to take down. Start sending emails to the President and CC the others to show they're not alone in fighting for answers for our athletes and the state of our athletic programs.

[email protected]
[email protected] (VP for University Advancement)
[email protected] (Interim Director of Alumni Advancement)


[email protected] (Eagle Athletic Fund)
[email protected] (Deputy Athletic Director)
[email protected] (Sr. Associate Athletic Director/Senior Woman Administrator/Title IX Dept. Liaison)

Yow will notice that there in no email for Chaves or phone # he took them down several years ago. He had no interest in your or my input. He destroyed the EAA piece by piece. Ron Raver and then Scott Barnes tok 25 years to build the EAA with its many volunteers. if your old enough you will remember getting call each year f:orm many of us about your annual pledge
Sorry computer is giving me fits.
He stopped that and started using student callers and you lost the personal touch. This was always a hugh event the month before the Killin event. He took the Annual Raver golf event and then the Killin Spring dinner and dance away from the EAA. He told the EAA board that the athletic dept would do a better Job and that the EAA should sign over these events to athletics. You see all the funds went to the EAA and he had to come to the board and ask for those funds each year which they were always given. Then when the board was with out activities he then sweet talked them into changing the bylaws over to the Eagle Athletic Fund and then he had total control and you have no active volunteers to fund raise and participate for Eastern. This group was about 100 volunteers strong and a membership of about 1000 when he became AD. All those 25 plus years of building momentum are all gone and have been for the last 5 or so years.
So now there is no organization to rally the supporters into action and this is one reason why the Stadium project is stalled. It would be fine if we had fat cats to fund these items but we do not.
I just want those of you who are great supporters, that live away from Cheney to know what has happened over the last six years or so. Maybe some of you remember those calls from many of us asking for your annual pledge and telling you what was going on in Athletics.
Now you know why we as supporters are so impotent in this matter. The EAA was your voice and now you have a FUND.
I am sorry it is a sad story.

Ron, I never got a call from the EAA. Instead, I had Tony Carpine stopping by each spring telling me "now kalm, last year you donated $1000. Can we count on you for $2000 this year?" knowing full well that as a young man I was only able to afford $500 the year before. :mrgreen:

Thanks for your efforts and I totally get what you're saying here. As I'm sure you know, these are growing pains issues. Gonzaga and WSU didn't accomplish their facilities and marketing upgrades with mostly volunteer/fan support. If you're going to tackle major capital improvement projects and game changing upgrades, I'm guessing you have to enlist professional fundraising and marketing which means taking things beyond a 10 mile or Wa State footprint and even out of your own athletic department. Volunteers don't have the skill set, resources, or time to market and fundraise on a practically global level and maintain the connections to former players and well heeled alumni who are hit up for donations constantly.

I don't care for and have experienced the impersonality as well with farming this stuff out, but I think it's a reality of continuing to transition from a little train that could directional school athletics program to a full fledged DI that is at least competitive with its conference peers. Is it happening fast enough for us? Nope, but we have extraordinary challenges. Do we still need local connections and support? Absolutely. We need all support, from a dollar donations to millions.

I'm nostalgic about all of this like you appear to be and I think that re-embracing the fantastic group of core locals is perhaps needed at this time. Meanwhile, I'm gonna sit back, continue to donate and support, and enjoy the ride.
My point was the supporters of Eastern Athletics have lost the only voice of input to this process. Now all we do is blog in to the air. We no longer have a voice and important input to the process. There is no contact to the Athletic administration and that is exactly what this AD was after.

I've felt Chaves and his staff have been more approachable than anyone since Zornes and Raver.

Agree to disagree but I get your concerns. :thumb:
 
The other angle if Chaves leaves is finding that 11th game next season. Less options the further we go. Perhaps the new AD would bring different contacts that might work out in our favor? Still a big and rather important question mark for this year.
 
He wants out. Yeah it's a little more money at UND but its North Dakota, who would want to live there? He sees the writing on the wall with Cullinan and her lack of vision for athletics.
 
Chaves has done a great job hiring coaches & running the athletic department. Unfortunately in today’s world an AD has to be a fund raiser and this has been a shortfall. Fund raising also needs to be high on the President’s agenda. After a football game last fall, I rode in the golf cart down the hill with Cullinan. I asked her about stadium improvements and she said the consultant study would be out soon and would be asking for more money from supporters. Her last comment as I got out of the cart was “academics are important too”. I left not feeling very encouraged that she was excited about getting anything done, stadium wise. We still have not heard anything from the consultant hired last spring. We need a new President!

I fully understand that I will be asked to give more either directly or through higher ticket prices, but the returns to the school that I am attached to will be far greater.
 
kalm said:
The other angle if Chaves leaves is finding that 11th game next season. Less options the further we go. Perhaps the new AD would bring different contacts that might work out in our favor? Still a big and rather important question mark for this year.
Maybe dopa would volunteer for that duty :lol:
 
DPEagle83 said:
Chaves has done a great job hiring coaches & running the athletic department. Unfortunately in today’s world an AD has to be a fund raiser and this has been a shortfall. Fund raising also needs to be high on the President’s agenda. After a football game last fall, I rode in the golf cart down the hill with Cullinan. I asked her about stadium improvements and she said the consultant study would be out soon and would be asking for more money from supporters. Her last comment as I got out of the cart was “academics are important too”. I left not feeling very encouraged that she was excited about getting anything done, stadium wise. We still have not heard anything from the consultant hired last spring. We need a new President!

I fully understand that I will be asked to give more either directly or through higher ticket prices, but the returns to the school that I am attached to will be far greater.
What do people expect Chaves to raise money for? As far as the stadium, most are not going to give for a cloud because that is all we have as of yet.
I wondered when all of this bad news first came down, what is the average GPA of all those involved in athletics, scholarship or not, and the overall GPA of all students @ Eastern?
If the results are as I suspect, Cullinan is benefiting from athletics yet her attitude toward athletics is rumored to be negative.
 
clawman said:
DPEagle83 said:
Chaves has done a great job hiring coaches & running the athletic department. Unfortunately in today’s world an AD has to be a fund raiser and this has been a shortfall. Fund raising also needs to be high on the President’s agenda. After a football game last fall, I rode in the golf cart down the hill with Cullinan. I asked her about stadium improvements and she said the consultant study would be out soon and would be asking for more money from supporters. Her last comment as I got out of the cart was “academics are important too”. I left not feeling very encouraged that she was excited about getting anything done, stadium wise. We still have not heard anything from the consultant hired last spring. We need a new President!

I fully understand that I will be asked to give more either directly or through higher ticket prices, but the returns to the school that I am attached to will be far greater.
What do people expect Chaves to raise money for? As far as the stadium, most are not going to give for a cloud because that is all we have as of yet.
I wondered when all of this bad news first came down, what is the average GPA of all those involved in athletics, scholarship or not, and the overall GPA of all students @ Eastern?
If the results are as I suspect, Cullinan is benefiting from athletics yet her attitude toward athletics is rumored to be negative.
We all presume she is negative towards athletics, but I get it she has said nothing to the contrary either.
If she is then why did she get hired...I find it really hard to believe that the board was that out of touch to understand what you are all saying "athletics has helps and has helped enrollment"
 
We/this is an echo chamber. We love EWU but there just isn't enough of us. There are 37 posts on here from only 16 people. It just isn't a big deal. We are passionate but that is about it. The president is a nice lady and likely has more pressing priorities.
 
goeags85 said:
We/this is an echo chamber. We love EWU but there just isn't enough of us. There are 37 posts on here from only 16 people. It just isn't a big deal. We are passionate but that is about it. The president is a nice lady and likely has more pressing priorities.

Make that 17 :thumb: The lady was chosen over Rex Fuller after receiving a vote of no confidence at Southern Oregon... Why? Just Why?! The root of the problem may have been the Board of Trustees that selected Cullinan. I DO NOT GET WHY THEY SELECTED HER OVER REX FULLER! We had some amazing progress under Dr. Aravalo and he was a major part of that progress.
 
scottywashere11 said:
goeags85 said:
We/this is an echo chamber. We love EWU but there just isn't enough of us. There are 37 posts on here from only 16 people. It just isn't a big deal. We are passionate but that is about it. The president is a nice lady and likely has more pressing priorities.

Make that 17 :thumb: The lady was chosen over Rex Fuller after receiving a vote of no confidence at Southern Oregon... Why? Just Why?! The root of the problem may have been the Board of Trustees that selected Cullinan. I DO NOT GET WHY THEY SELECTED HER OVER REX FULLER! We had some amazing progress under Dr. Aravalo and he was a major part of that progress.

Eastern administration has a long history of hiring outside individuals over internal, for whatever reason. Also, I'll or preface this with a it doesn't usually matter to me, but she's also a woman and Eastern prides themselves on diversity. I do believe she is the first woman president at EWU, correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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