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Coach Bone

Romar's not going anywhere for at least a few years. He's still got the best future of any program in Washington, though others (Gonzaga, WSU) are catching up quickly. I don't see Bennett sticking around long at WSU when he could get a higher profile job.
 
IMO, Bone needs to prove his recruiting skills before he becomes a serious candidate for another head coaching job. So far (and correct me if I am wrong), Bone has only signed one kid directly out of HS (a freshman next year); all others on the roster now and next year are either from the previous reign or transfers...

I dont mean this as a slam at all, just that there is an important element to being a Div. I Head Coach that he has not yet proven himself in: recruiting. Give him another recruiting cycle or 2, and see how things pan out.... if he brings in some solid guys and if he also keeps up the coaching aspect, he would likely be an attractive candidate somewhere...
 
pilotnut said:
IMO, Bone needs to prove his recruiting skills before he becomes a serious candidate for another head coaching job. So far (and correct me if I am wrong), Bone has only signed one kid directly out of HS (a freshman next year); all others on the roster now and next year are either from the previous reign or transfers...

I dont mean this as a slam at all, just that there is an important element to being a Div. I Head Coach that he has not yet proven himself in: recruiting. Give him another recruiting cycle or 2, and see how things pan out.... if he brings in some solid guys and if he also keeps up the coaching aspect, he would likely be an attractive candidate somewhere...
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I think you would have to include Coston, Thomas, and Hammond (I know he had to sit out, but he wasn't JC) as recruits directly out of high school. Am I mistaken?
 
Incorrect, Bone has signed Kyle Coston, Julius Thomas and Justynn Hammond out of high school that are currently on the roster, not that I'm promoting for Bone to go anywhere.
 
You are correct... I was (incorrectly) thinking that Bone was hired in 2006... he was hired in 2005. My bad.

I stand by my thought that he needs another year or so before he is a prime candidate for another coaching position...
 
pilotnut said:
You are correct... I was (incorrectly) thinking that Bone was hired in 2006... he was hired in 2005. My bad.

I stand by my thought that he needs another year or so before he is a prime candidate for another coaching position...
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You are probably right, but he has done more than McKay ever did, and he got hired away by the Beavers, so PSU fans are aware that these things happen.
 
Yes, they certainly do. And I will note that I said "prime" candidate.... I am sure he is on several "lists" this year, but I think his stock would increase significantly with another successful year under his belt.

There are so many openings this year on the west coast... the hirings and resulting domino effect will be very interesting to watch... I hope for PSU's sake that Bone isnt hired away in the first round, or in the resulting "aftershocks" (filling in positions that were vacated by coaches leaving for other jobs)...
 
He'll get another job, doubtless, as long as the selection committe never interviews or solicits opinions from any of the players that have ever played for him at PSU (with the exception perhaps of Coston). i.e., he better not use any PSU player references on his C.V. if he wants another job.
 
pilotnut said:
IMO, Bone needs to prove his recruiting skills before he becomes a serious candidate for another head coaching job. So far (and correct me if I am wrong), Bone has only signed one kid directly out of HS (a freshman next year); all others on the roster now and next year are either from the previous reign or transfers...

I dont mean this as a slam at all, just that there is an important element to being a Div. I Head Coach that he has not yet proven himself in: recruiting. Give him another recruiting cycle or 2, and see how things pan out.... if he brings in some solid guys and if he also keeps up the coaching aspect, he would likely be an attractive candidate somewhere...
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Except for Tyrell Mara and Scott Morrison, this whole team is Bone's creation. He was on the UW staff and they had some great recruiting classes if you recall. Does Brandon Roy and Nate Robinson ring bells?
 
GustaViking said:
He'll get another job, doubtless, as long as the selection committe never interviews or solicits opinions from any of the players that have ever played for him at PSU (with the exception perhaps of Coston). i.e., he better not use any PSU player references on his C.V. if he wants another job.
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Really? Is that why players are leaving PSU in droves? Is that why he can't get any transfers into the program? Those Phil Nelson and Dominic Waters transfers must be an apparition. Bone just completed a 23-9 season at PSU. Do you think he just lucked into it? Those kids transfer to PSU to play for someone they don't like? Give me a break.
 
One thing to consider is that Bone took the PSU job because it was in the NW. I don't see him leaving for a midwest job or a east coast job. I do see him maybe leaving for an opening at Washington State if Bennett leaves, or Gonzaga if Oregon fires Kent and hires Few, or if he wants the Seattle U job when they move up to DI. He's a NW guy. His girls are still in high school. Maybe he might consider something out of the area once his kids are in college.
 
Coach Bone will be on KXL with Brian Wheeler between 7 and 8 tonight, according to a post on o-live. I'm going to give it a listen.
 
Great interview. Wheeler stated, " some Viking fans are worried you may leave now." Bone responded, "Well they did today, I'm down in Eugene watching the state tournament, I'll be back tonight. No, I'm excited to be at Portland State." He also talked a little about his relationship with Brandon Roy and the three transfers who will play for the Viks next year.
 
VikThunder said:
Really? Is that why players are leaving PSU in droves? Is that why he can't get any transfers into the program? Those Phil Nelson and Dominic Waters transfers must be an apparition. Bone just completed a 23-9 season at PSU. Do you think he just lucked into it? Those kids transfer to PSU to play for someone they don't like? Give me a break.
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I'll tell you again.......Bone is a great recruiter (translation...he lies really well.....or at least embilleshes endlessly, and doesn't deliver). The players all agree with you.... they say Bone is a good recruiter, and a likeable enough guy off the court. This qualifies him to be a good assistant coach. He's just a terrible practice coach (does and says nothing), doen't communicate wuth his players, is a poor motivator, a poor leader, and completely uninspiring (i.e. he has no qualities (other than recruiting ability that you would want in a head coach). He turns the team over to an assistant who the players think is qualified to be a Div. 3 Coach. Once you spend some time talking to Bone, you'll realize his quietness is there to mask his lack of intelligence. Personally, I think his Dad told him better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt... and I think he took it to heart, and has carried that all the way to where he is now (the Peter Principle).

Being Lorenzo Romar's friend and lap dog for 3 years does not necessarily qualify you to be a Div. 1 basketball coach. However, you're entitled to your opinion, and I'll keep mine, thanks.
 
GustaViking said:
VikThunder said:
Really? Is that why players are leaving PSU in droves? Is that why he can't get any transfers into the program? Those Phil Nelson and Dominic Waters transfers must be an apparition. Bone just completed a 23-9 season at PSU. Do you think he just lucked into it? Those kids transfer to PSU to play for someone they don't like? Give me a break.
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I'll tell you again.......Bone is a great recruiter (translation...he lies really well.....or at least embilleshes endlessly, and doesn't deliver). The players all agree with you.... they say Bone is a good recruiter, and a likeable enough guy off the court. This qualifies him to be a good assistant coach. He's just a terrible practice coach (does and says nothing), doen't communicate wuth his players, is a poor motivator, a poor leader, and completely uninspiring (i.e. he has no qualities (other than recruiting ability that you would want in a head coach). He turns the team over to an assistant who the players think is qualified to be a Div. 3 Coach. Once you spend some time talking to Bone, you'll realize his quietness is there to mask his lack of intelligence. Personally, I think his Dad told him better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt... and I think he took it to heart, and has carried that all the way to where he is now (the Peter Principle).

Being Lorenzo Romar's friend and lap dog for 3 years does not necessarily qualify you to be a Div. 1 basketball coach. However, you're entitled to your opinion, and I'll keep mine, thanks.
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Well whatever. Interesting your opinion. Bottom line is 23-9. FIrst ever NCAA birth. Transfers coming in from Hawaii, UW, UP, Xavier. etc. It is amazing such an awful coach is achieving so much in 3 years that no other coach has achieved in PSU history. But according to you it sounds like PSU should fire him even after a school record won-loss record. How would that look? What are you smoking? Scott Morrison was quoted and saying Bone was a player's coach and the best offensive x-o's coach he's ever played for. Dominguez, Huff, Murray, Lucas all quoted giving the coaching staff all the credit for PSU's success this year.
 
Every good recruiter makes excessive promises, or has deep AAU connections. That's the nature of the business. It's nothing to fault a guy over. I agree that Geving has a little too much control over the in-game workings, which likely means practices as well. I think this results from a large amount of trust in the way Bone has trained his assistants to do their jobs, and not his lack of charisma. Mark Few at Gonzaga strikes me as having very similar coaching philosophy. Not a bad guy to share traits with.

He knows how to run a small program, and that is where he belongs. He has done a great job doing what he needed to do getting PSU to its best season ever. I salute him for that.
 
"He's just a terrible practice coach (does and says nothing), doen't communicate wuth his players, is a poor motivator, a poor leader, and completely uninspiring (i.e. he has no qualities (other than recruiting ability that you would want in a head coach). He turns the team over to an assistant who the players think is qualified to be a Div. 3 Coach."

Most Head coaches turn the practice sessions over to an assistant. One well known example was OSU's Ralph Miller. He never ran practices. He was always up in the stands smoking and watching!
 
Guaranteed that Miller's view was better. /users/31/07/37/smiles/880372.gif

Miller was also far worse at the immediate benching for a single mistake than the Bone regime has ever been. Moreover, the dude considered bounce passes and players over 6'5" dribbling (A.C. Green excepted somehow) to be mistakes. Half the entertainment of watching OSU back then was watching how Miller would abuse his own team... watching his teams on TV should have been made into a drinking game.

GO VIKINGS!

GO DUCKS!
 
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