Dr Wood needs to get a handle of this asap. Negotiations are tough, not easy like when hiring Taylor or Thompson. I am tired of these reports that don’t say anything, every other school just announces the decision. Have to close hard or things happen like the UNLV game and Washington State coach just left happen which can change things fast
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Sure?
OldSchoolHornet
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Positive.
HeavyistheClown
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Kinda relieved it’s not Marion, dude moves every two years. He is not committed to anything, pure mercenary.
HeavyistheClown
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Joe D, like SacBee is horrible. State Hornet does a better job.
OldSchoolHornet
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Joe D is a douche bag...and has been for decades. He has never allowed facts to get in the way of whatever narrative he's pushing. Much like the buckeyehornetfan.
stingthemgood
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I can confirm a lot of what the Bee is reporting however... We have talked to both Reggie Bush and RGIII -- this is the widest net we've ever cast and frequent flier miles are being accrued in this search.
HeavyistheClown
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No Caucasian candidates?
These ex NFLers don’t have HC experience, why the love for these type of candidates?
Good ole Angus. I was surprised not to see Osterhout on the list.
HornetHope
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I suspect he wants 3 bags and we are offering 1/2 a bag. Sounds like this deal is off, too bad.
stingthemgood
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To get us into a conference... we need eyeballs. A big splash hire of a famous athlete seems to be what the administration thinks we need to make that FBS leap.
Fricken Rookies, can’t get FBS HC $$$ while in FCS. Just structure the deal with FCS $ with FBS $$$ clause if/when that happens.
Agreed. They have or are losing the perception battle.
If you are keeping the score, as of this moment right now:
Raise student fees for athletics / W
Upgrades to The Well / 0
Pac 12 membership / 0
Mountain West membership / 0
New stadium / 0
New splashy head coach / 0
What quarter are we in? Clock is ticking.
Yeah, the messaging so far is not good. Decline, decline, decline just like the conferences.
Not sure a splashy Rolex wearing ex NFLer with no HC or program building experience is the right path. But smoke and mirrors seems to be the MO.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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I don't consider it a failure. I was skeptical about Marion anyway, for the same reason HeavyistheClown stated among others.
IDC who the coach is going to be, as long as they are good and that they plan to stick around long enough to continue building upon the foundation that Taylor started.
Green Laser
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We have a proven and efficient athletic director. Why not let him do his job evaluating and recruiting qualified candidates? As far as I know Dr. Wood has little or no experience in athletics, why are candidates contacting him directly instead of Mark Orr? If we are trying to elevate the program why would we be even remotely considering an ex NFL player with no coaching experience just for their name recognition?
If we are trying for the "Sanders effect" he had proven his HC abilities before getting the Colorado job.
There are plenty of proven coaches out there, this is not a high school position, no time for experimentation. I am unimpressed by the list of "finalists" maybe they should reopen the search or just name Kris Richardson interim head coach for 2025. Just because a person was a great athlete doesn't make them a great coach, totally different skillset. Head coaches also have administrative duties which even some good position coaches are unable to master.
If we are trying for the "Sanders effect" he had proven his HC abilities before getting the Colorado job.
There are plenty of proven coaches out there, this is not a high school position, no time for experimentation. I am unimpressed by the list of "finalists" maybe they should reopen the search or just name Kris Richardson interim head coach for 2025. Just because a person was a great athlete doesn't make them a great coach, totally different skillset. Head coaches also have administrative duties which even some good position coaches are unable to master.
It's unfortunate the Marion hire didn't happen, my preference is at a minimum that the candidate have D1 coordinator experience and Marion checked that box and is clearly on the ascent in his career. My guess would be that someone else came and offered a bigger bag, that's the way business goes.
Not sure why folks think we'll get a coach that will be here for more than a handful of years. We want what we saw in Taylor, a capable coach that comes in and is very successful and is hired away. This is the game now, especially at the FCS level. This idea that we get a coach that will hang around for years on end isn't likely...and if it does happen, it's likely because the program is wallowing in mediocrity. Much like the top quality players will perform well and get promoted to a higher level after a year or two, a coach on the ascension will be on a similar trajectory.
This is a desirable head coaching position and these names wouldn't be thrown around if Dr. Wood/Orr weren't offering a competitive FCS salary. I'm not sweating a capable and competent coach being hired but a gimmick hire concerns me to a certain extent. A lot of whether one of the gimmicky names being thrown around would work depends on who that person fills out their staff with. Do they go the McCaffrey route and hook up all his bros with a job that ends in utter disaster, or do they go the Deon route and fill a staff with capable and connected coaches and makes changes to staff when needed?
Deon got his start in the FCS ranks before cashing out his chips and moving on to Colorado. The difference with Deon is he had his baller son, Shedeur, to head up his offense and he crushed it on the recruiting trail both at JSU and Colorado to surround him with talent. I get the desire to emulate that approach, but if the gimmick coach isn't coming on board with some quality talent in tow, it could be a complete disaster.
It'll be interesting to see how this hiring saga plays out.
Not sure why folks think we'll get a coach that will be here for more than a handful of years. We want what we saw in Taylor, a capable coach that comes in and is very successful and is hired away. This is the game now, especially at the FCS level. This idea that we get a coach that will hang around for years on end isn't likely...and if it does happen, it's likely because the program is wallowing in mediocrity. Much like the top quality players will perform well and get promoted to a higher level after a year or two, a coach on the ascension will be on a similar trajectory.
This is a desirable head coaching position and these names wouldn't be thrown around if Dr. Wood/Orr weren't offering a competitive FCS salary. I'm not sweating a capable and competent coach being hired but a gimmick hire concerns me to a certain extent. A lot of whether one of the gimmicky names being thrown around would work depends on who that person fills out their staff with. Do they go the McCaffrey route and hook up all his bros with a job that ends in utter disaster, or do they go the Deon route and fill a staff with capable and connected coaches and makes changes to staff when needed?
Deon got his start in the FCS ranks before cashing out his chips and moving on to Colorado. The difference with Deon is he had his baller son, Shedeur, to head up his offense and he crushed it on the recruiting trail both at JSU and Colorado to surround him with talent. I get the desire to emulate that approach, but if the gimmick coach isn't coming on board with some quality talent in tow, it could be a complete disaster.
It'll be interesting to see how this hiring saga plays out.
That guy can remember all the names of a small HS junior varsity football team from mid-90s before he can recite any working knowledge of FCS football.