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Congrats Vernon

I think internet "journalism" is more to blame than anyone for blowing the whole thing out of proportion. No, he shouldn't have worn the Oregon stuff to the basketball game but the students also shouldn't have boo'd him for it. He has a young son, and he believes he has a better shot at playing in the NFL by playing a year in the Pac 12. "Until you've walked a mile in my shoes."

As for Oregon, I doubt they did anything illegal in recruiting VA with the amount of scrutiny they are under.
 
Seattle Eagle,
I did see it, he even had two days of ESPN, which is just what he wanted. I am glad for him. Now we can put him out of our minds, I have. We have four QBs, they are all going to be great #5, Jordan West, #12 Reilly Hennessey, should Jordan have problems, Hennessey will step in, #15 Cage Gurub, who is a very capable QB, and #16 Zimmerman, same OL that protected the deserted QB, that made him what he was here at EWU. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Roy Hyatt LB, Mead High was not here, don't know why. Vic Wallace
 
Hambone said:
I think internet "journalism" is more to blame than anyone for blowing the whole thing out of proportion. No, he shouldn't have worn the Oregon stuff to the basketball game but the students also shouldn't have boo'd him for it. He has a young son, and he believes he has a better shot at playing in the NFL by playing a year in the Pac 12. "Until you've walked a mile in my shoes."

As for Oregon, I doubt they did anything illegal in recruiting VA with the amount of scrutiny they are under.

Oregon can do whatever they want and the ncaa will do nothing about it. They've proven this over and over again. Bottom line is, Nike sponsors 2/3 of college programs and that's just the way Mr Knight wants it. Did they cheat and break rules with VA, nobody knows. However, I will never give them the benefit of the doubt because they've proven time and time again they can't be trusted.

As for VA, he claimed he didn't want the attention, when this whole situation is about bringing himself attention. Good, bad, or indifferent, it was about making a name for himself at Oregon and in the Pac 12, otherwise he'd still be at EWU. He let flash cloud his judgment and on that night that he showed up to a basketball game in O gear, the students that booed saw right through him.

I thought he was a great player and a good person here at EWU, but I'd be lying if I said I hadn't lost some respect for him throughout the entire process.
 
Hambone said:
As for Oregon, I doubt they did anything illegal in recruiting VA with the amount of scrutiny they are under.

Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know. I do think it was weird how he was rumored to be transferring to Oregon on some of the Ducks fan sites well before he was even granted a release from EWU. That, and the high school coach reportedly communicating between UO and VA prior to that. Really weird.

Anyways, enough of this stuff. It's all ancient history now. Onwards and upwards!
 
marceagfan5 said:
Rontheoldwiseeagle said:
EWU got two more minutes of coverage thanks to VA on the Brock & Salk radio show this morning out of Seattle. Just great for recruiting. I am sure the same is true in the Portland area.

I don't think our recruits listen to the radio or watch the news on TV, they are into social media, where VA and EWU took a beating yesterday.

This was not good for PR from EWU or Oregon's side.

Parents of athletes and high school coaches who send kids to camps still listen to radio.
 
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
Rontheoldwiseeagle said:
EWU got two more minutes of coverage thanks to VA on the Brock & Salk radio show this morning out of Seattle. Just great for recruiting. I am sure the same is true in the Portland area.

I don't think our recruits listen to the radio or watch the news on TV, they are into social media, where VA and EWU took a beating yesterday.

This was not good for PR from EWU or Oregon's side.

Parents of athletes and high school coaches who send kids to camps still listen to radio.

My :twocents:

The only way this turns into a positive PR situation for EWU is if:
A) Vernon is actually named QB1 at Oregon
B) Vernon tears up the Pac-12 after being named QB1 at Oregon
C) The national media spins the story the right way after A and B happen

If all three of those things don't happen, any potential PR benefit from this will be lost, and all of this will have been a waste for both VA and EWU. Just my opinion. :coffee:
 
DefendtheRed said:
So, this is the last time I will comment on this subject and I encourage others to do the same as I think it's time for EAGLE NATION to move past this.

First off, congratulations to Vernon for earning his degree. Above all else these guys are student-athletes who are here to earn an education and sometimes I think that gets lost. Being the first in your family to earn a college degree is something to be commended.

With all that being said, call me "bitter", call me "butt hurt", call me whatever, but it's going to take a while for the bad taste that's been lingering in my mouth for the past 7 months to leave. Everything from Dean Herrington's questionable involvement in dealing with the U of Nike, the media's biased slant and agenda, and finally Vernon's handling of the situation himself, has left me completely baffled and incredibly disheartened with college football in general.

And I can't help but feel that Vernon, at some point later on in life, will regret the way he handled things with EWU. No, I'm not mad at him for leaving, because every player leaves eventually and he fulfilled his end of the bargain by being a member of the program for four years and earning his degree (eventually).

Rather, by how he disrespected the coaches, administrators, fans, and fellow teammates at Eastern Washington by wearing an Oregon sweatshirt to an EWU basketball game, ignoring the local media, and never once coming out publicly and thanking the program that gave him a shot out of High School and the people that backed him for the past four years. By doing interviews with national media where he claimed his former teammates were "butthurt"...while at the same time never granting local media any access during the entire process.

Vernon, you recently said you "never wanted any of this attention", but you absolutely did. If you didn't, you wouldn't have gambled so big and risked almost not being able to play your Senior season. You absolutely wanted to be in the spotlight, and I guess I can't blame you for that. I just wish you could have handled the situation, all of it, a lot better than you did.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Nailed it.
 
EWURanger said:
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
Rontheoldwiseeagle said:
EWU got two more minutes of coverage thanks to VA on the Brock & Salk radio show this morning out of Seattle. Just great for recruiting. I am sure the same is true in the Portland area.

I don't think our recruits listen to the radio or watch the news on TV, they are into social media, where VA and EWU took a beating yesterday.

This was not good for PR from EWU or Oregon's side.

Parents of athletes and high school coaches who send kids to camps still listen to radio.

My :twocents:

The only way this turns into a positive PR situation for EWU is if:
A) Vernon is actually named QB1 at Oregon
B) Vernon tears up the Pac-12 after being named QB1 at Oregon
C) The national media spins the story the right way after A and B happen

If all three of those things don't happen, any potential PR benefit from this will be lost, and all of this will have been a waste for both VA and EWU. Just my opinion. :coffee:

I was responding to the comment regarding who listens to radio but I don't think the negative PR thing is that big of a deal. Casual fans view us as the victim and I just don't see how it hurts recruiting all that much.
 
EWURanger said:
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
Rontheoldwiseeagle said:
EWU got two more minutes of coverage thanks to VA on the Brock & Salk radio show this morning out of Seattle. Just great for recruiting. I am sure the same is true in the Portland area.

I don't think our recruits listen to the radio or watch the news on TV, they are into social media, where VA and EWU took a beating yesterday.

This was not good for PR from EWU or Oregon's side.

Parents of athletes and high school coaches who send kids to camps still listen to radio.

My :twocents:

The only way this turns into a positive PR situation for EWU is if:
A) Vernon is actually named QB1 at Oregon
B) Vernon tears up the Pac-12 after being named QB1 at Oregon
C) The national media spins the story the right way after A and B happen

If all three of those things don't happen, any potential PR benefit from this will be lost, and all of this will have been a waste for both VA and EWU. Just my opinion. :coffee:
So, now Your. saying we have a chance at some positive PR. I am excited.VA will do his part
:D :D :D :D :D
 
Scott Frost, the OC at Oregon, seemed impressed with Vernon and offered a sort of backhanded complement to Beau on ESPN.com

"Vernon is doing a great job," Frost said. "I can see why he has been a great player at the lower level. I can see why he has won a lot of games. Whoever was coaching him before did a great job with him."

Hope Vernon has success.
 
MLEagle said:
Scott Frost, the OC at Oregon, seemed impressed with Vernon and offered a sort of backhanded complement to Beau on ESPN.com

"Vernon is doing a great job," Frost said. "I can see why he has been a great player at the lower level. I can see why he has won a lot of games. Whoever was coaching him before did a great job with him."

Hope Vernon has success.

I think this kind of backhanded commentary is what we can expect this season. The narrative will be that Eastern did a good job, but no player can really be considered a success when playing at a "lower level."

I doubt many long-timers care that much, but I think that it sucks for the kids who only see the program get national exposure when something like this happens. Hopefully, the team can turn this into fuel to drive a big season.
 
Just read the article on espn where his high school coach admits to floating the idea of transfering out of ewu to UCLA........unreal! I know let it go....but man just one more thing for Baldwin to worry about. I guess you have to keep recruiting your kids even when they are in your program.
 
LDopaPDX said:
MLEagle said:
Scott Frost, the OC at Oregon, seemed impressed with Vernon and offered a sort of backhanded complement to Beau on ESPN.com

"Vernon is doing a great job," Frost said. "I can see why he has been a great player at the lower level. I can see why he has won a lot of games. Whoever was coaching him before did a great job with him."

Hope Vernon has success.

I think this kind of backhanded commentary is what we can expect this season. The narrative will be that Eastern did a good job, but no player can really be considered a success when playing at a "lower level."

I doubt many long-timers care that much, but I think that it sucks for the kids who only see the program get national exposure when something like this happens. Hopefully, the team can turn this into fuel to drive a big season.

he was probably referring to whoever he thought might have been VA's positional coach at Eastern. So, Hill I guess. But it does come across as being kind of backhanded. regardless something tells me they will find out what this program is all about Sept 7th.
 
EWU98 said:
Just read the article on espn where his high school coach admits to floating the idea of transfering out of ewu to UCLA........unreal! I know let it go....but man just one more thing for Baldwin to worry about. I guess you have to keep recruiting your kids even when they are in your program.

do you have a link? funny how this guy did jack and shit to market VA coming out of HS but all of the sudden he's johnny on the spot with the great ideas after Vern has huge success after playing for 3 years at EWU.
 
eaglesfootball said:
LDopaPDX said:
MLEagle said:
Scott Frost, the OC at Oregon, seemed impressed with Vernon and offered a sort of backhanded complement to Beau on ESPN.com

"Vernon is doing a great job," Frost said. "I can see why he has been a great player at the lower level. I can see why he has won a lot of games. Whoever was coaching him before did a great job with him."

Hope Vernon has success.

I think this kind of backhanded commentary is what we can expect this season. The narrative will be that Eastern did a good job, but no player can really be considered a success when playing at a "lower level."

I doubt many long-timers care that much, but I think that it sucks for the kids who only see the program get national exposure when something like this happens. Hopefully, the team can turn this into fuel to drive a big season.

he was probably referring to whoever he thought might have been VA's positional coach at Eastern. So, Hill I guess. But it does come across as being kind of backhanded. regardless something tells me they will find out what this program is all about Sept 7th.

Arrogant douchebag. He's had two seasons to develop Mariotta's replacement. He should come to Cheney and take notes.
 
eaglesfootball said:
EWU98 said:
Just read the article on espn where his high school coach admits to floating the idea of transfering out of ewu to UCLA........unreal! I know let it go....but man just one more thing for Baldwin to worry about. I guess you have to keep recruiting your kids even when they are in your program.

do you have a link? funny how this guy did jack and shit to market VA coming out of HS but all of the sudden he's johnny on the spot with the great ideas after Vern has huge success after playing for 3 years at EWU.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13457285/have-oregon-ducks-found-their-russell-wilson-vernon-adams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
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