Defense

[GoldenEagle]

Really impressed with how the D played in the second half. Overall, we limited Davis to only 260 yards of offense, and 88 yards rushing.

The EAGS defense shined compared to Montana's. The griz gave up 356 total yards to Northern Colorado who were led by their 3rd string quarterback. They gave up all those yards in their sacred "loud" stadium to boot. :lol: :lol:

Don't get too anti-Griz. They came out gangbusters and were rotating in reserves pretty much the whole second half.

I watched a good part of the second half (missed the first half) and I didn't notice starters being pulled. That was why I made the post. Now I'm curious and will watch the second half again on the ROOT replay today.

Grizzly second string wasn't in until halfway thought fourth quarter. They just came into the second half flat.

I just watched the second half again and RJones is correct. In fact, Wagenmann was in every play up to N. Colorado's final possession. Of course the griz are trying to pad his stats for the Buchanan award. They did not rotate reserves until mid to late 4th quarter and those were second team who likely already played in the game. My point is the griz gave up over 350 total yards to a weak visiting team who started a third string QB.

My anti-griz campaign continues....... :lol: :lol:

 

[talon38]

After a halftime lead of only 9-7 in EWU's favor, and a complete ball control game by UC Davis, what about that Eastern Defense in the 2nd half. We gave up a total of 260 yards total offense. 172 passing (but 70 of those yards were on 1 play at the last 7 seconds of the 3rd quarter), 88 yards rushing, 10 first downs for the entire game, forced 2 turnovers, and they only had the ball 25 minutes. I know at times it wasn't really pretty, but this game was a TOTAL domination by the EAGS, for there 3rd game in a row on the road. Be proud of these guys, a tough schedule to start the season, and now they can settle in with a routine. 4 home games and 3 road games, and 2 of the away games are Charters, then bus the Portland State. We are coming in to our own, I'm feeling really good! Thoughts?

 

[GoldenEagle]

After a halftime lead of only 9-7 in EWU's favor, and a complete ball control game by UC Davis, what about that Eastern Defense in the 2nd half. We gave up a total of 260 yards total offense. 172 passing (but 70 of those yards were on 1 play at the last 7 seconds of the 3rd quarter), 88 yards rushing, 10 first downs for the entire game, forced 2 turnovers, and they only had the ball 25 minutes. I know at times it wasn't really pretty, but this game was a TOTAL domination by the EAGS, for there 3rd game in a row on the road. Be proud of these guys, a tough schedule to start the season, and now they can settle in with a routine. 4 home games and 3 road games, and 2 of the away games are Charters, then bus the Portland State. We are coming in to our own, I'm feeling really good! Thoughts?

I agree talon, they played much better against Davis. Especially the young players on D line going up against a Davis O line built to power run the ball. Talk about on the job training. My take is that these guys are learning "team" defense and will continue to incrementally improve every week. Idaho State showed it can move the ball and attack the entire field so this week our D will definitely be tested. It is great to get the team back at home this week. It seems like an eternity since we last played a home game.

 

[krg281]

I was at the game in Davis. The D looked confident and strong. The seconds and thirds got in most of the 2nd half and the experience they are getting will pay off huge later on in the season and in the next few years.
This will be a big game for the D. Who will show up. A run stopping pass intercepting force that keeps Idaho under 20 or.... Well I will be the Optimist and just say Go Eagles.. Shut them down...

 

[dudeitsaid]

The D only gave up one 1st down in the second half! And, of course, that one long pass for a score. I gotta say, I continue to be impressed with the way our coaches adjust after the half. The two halves were so different, and EWU just imposed their style on UC Davis and changed the game. The growth of the D in this game, and ability to adjust give me a lot of optimism for the way this season is going to progress on that side of the ball. And Ebukam is growing into a force! We are seeing some game changing stars emerge!

 

[DefendtheRed]

The D only gave up one 1st down in the second half! And, of course, that one long pass for a score. I gotta say, I continue to be impressed with the way our coaches adjust after the half. The two halves were so different, and EWU just imposed their style on UC Davis and changed the game. The growth of the D in this game, and ability to adjust give me a lot of optimism for the way this season is going to progress on that side of the ball. And Ebukam is growing into a force! We are seeing some game changing stars emerge!

I will eat my crow in this thread and say that I was most impressed with the play of the D in the second half. To hold a run first team like Davis to under 90 yards rushing is truly impressive. Let's hope they can build on the confidence gained in this game and do it several more times this season.

 

[56n92]

I really liked what I saw from the defense. in particular I really liked how they disguised what they were doing. They showed blitz then backed out or showed blitz and came or showed nothing and brought it. With that aggressive style you'll get burned from time to time, which happened on the long ball. But who cares, they scored 14 instead of 50. Clearly Davis isn't a MSU or UW but holding any BSC team to 14 is an accomplishment.
And how about the linebackers. They played great, which makes me think the dline graded out well too. When I looked at the box score I was surprised Hamlin didn't have more tackles. He seemed to be around the ball the entire game. McCarthy was great too. That dude is a MLB to the core :twisted:. As for Samson, I see a potential Buck Buchanon Award in his future.
I really hope our D humiliates ISU and Arias spends a good deal of time face to face with the Inferno carpet . Kramer might be a nice enough guy and is certainly a good coach but when he left us for another BSC school, he earned himself an ass whoopin every time he returns to Cheney.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Kramer might be a nice enough guy and is certainly a good coach but when he left us for another BSC school, he earned himself an ass whoopin every time he returns to Cheney.

Interesting fact: Since leaving EWU, Kramer has never won in Cheney. That includes while he was at MSU.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Stats can be misleading. Kramer beat Wulff in Spokane, they didn't play in Cheney one year.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Stats can be misleading. Kramer beat Wulff in Spokane, they didn't play in Cheney one year.

That's why I said Cheney. In any event, Krames does not have a great record against his former employer. I think that win in 2001 in Spokane is his only one.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So getting back to the topic of defense, I found it interesting --and sad-- that there are SIX Big Sky defenses that are worse statistically than ours through 5 weeks, and we still get to play three of them.

http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-totaldef.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RANK - TEAM - GAMES - PLAYS - TOTAL YARDS - YPP - TDS - YPG

34. Montana 5 357 1694 4.75 8 338.8
36. North Dakota 5 336 1703 5.07 16 340.6
61. Northern Colo. 4 267 1524 5.71 13 381.0
77. Cal Poly 4 272 1656 6.09 17 414.0
80. Northern Ariz. 5 349 2087 5.98 19 417.4
83. Montana St. 5 380 2122 5.58 19 424.4
88. Eastern Wash. 5 368 2150 5.84 23 430.0
93. Weber St. 5 362 2234 6.17 22 446.8
97. Sacramento St. 5 385 2291 5.95 20 458.2
101. Idaho St. 4 297 1879 6.33 21 469.8
108. UC Davis 4 283 1938 6.85 20 484.5
113. Southern Utah 5 405 2587 6.39 23 517.4
117. Portland St. 4 337 2171 6.44 21 542.8

Also, this is out of 121 teams, which means all but two BSC defenses are in the bottom half in the nation statistically. JFC that's terrible.

 

[eaglesfootball]

oh my. not a great season for the BSC so far. I am guessing that a lot of the teams towards the bottom have played more than 1 FBS team.

 

[kalm]

oh my. not a great season for the BSC so far. I am guessing that a lot of the teams towards the bottom have played more than 1 FBS team.

Yep. And I'd throw NDSU, SELA, UNI, Missouri State, and SDSU into that mix.

 

[luckyintheorder]

So getting back to the topic of defense, I found it interesting --and sad-- that there are SIX Big Sky defenses that are worse statistically than ours through 5 weeks, and we still get to play three of them.

http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-totaldef.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RANK - TEAM - GAMES - PLAYS - TOTAL YARDS - YPP - TDS - YPG

34. Montana 5 357 1694 4.75 8 338.8
36. North Dakota 5 336 1703 5.07 16 340.6
61. Northern Colo. 4 267 1524 5.71 13 381.0
77. Cal Poly 4 272 1656 6.09 17 414.0
80. Northern Ariz. 5 349 2087 5.98 19 417.4
83. Montana St. 5 380 2122 5.58 19 424.4
88. Eastern Wash. 5 368 2150 5.84 23 430.0
93. Weber St. 5 362 2234 6.17 22 446.8
97. Sacramento St. 5 385 2291 5.95 20 458.2
101. Idaho St. 4 297 1879 6.33 21 469.8
108. UC Davis 4 283 1938 6.85 20 484.5
113. Southern Utah 5 405 2587 6.39 23 517.4
117. Portland St. 4 337 2171 6.44 21 542.8

Also, this is out of 121 teams, which means all but two BSC defenses are in the bottom half in the nation statistically. JFC that's terrible.

got to be licking our chops to see our offense against the rest of the league

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So getting back to the topic of defense, I found it interesting --and sad-- that there are SIX Big Sky defenses that are worse statistically than ours through 5 weeks, and we still get to play three of them.

http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-totaldef.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RANK - TEAM - GAMES - PLAYS - TOTAL YARDS - YPP - TDS - YPG

34. Montana 5 357 1694 4.75 8 338.8
36. North Dakota 5 336 1703 5.07 16 340.6
61. Northern Colo. 4 267 1524 5.71 13 381.0
77. Cal Poly 4 272 1656 6.09 17 414.0
80. Northern Ariz. 5 349 2087 5.98 19 417.4
83. Montana St. 5 380 2122 5.58 19 424.4
88. Eastern Wash. 5 368 2150 5.84 23 430.0
93. Weber St. 5 362 2234 6.17 22 446.8
97. Sacramento St. 5 385 2291 5.95 20 458.2
101. Idaho St. 4 297 1879 6.33 21 469.8
108. UC Davis 4 283 1938 6.85 20 484.5
113. Southern Utah 5 405 2587 6.39 23 517.4
117. Portland St. 4 337 2171 6.44 21 542.8

Also, this is out of 121 teams, which means all but two BSC defenses are in the bottom half in the nation statistically. JFC that's terrible.

got to be licking our chops to see our offense against the rest of the league

Definitely, especially since outside of maybe ISU, not one of them have the offense to keep up. Still need to improve on D before the playoffs though.

 

[luckyintheorder]

So getting back to the topic of defense, I found it interesting --and sad-- that there are SIX Big Sky defenses that are worse statistically than ours through 5 weeks, and we still get to play three of them.

http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/1AA-team-totaldef.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RANK - TEAM - GAMES - PLAYS - TOTAL YARDS - YPP - TDS - YPG

34. Montana 5 357 1694 4.75 8 338.8
36. North Dakota 5 336 1703 5.07 16 340.6
61. Northern Colo. 4 267 1524 5.71 13 381.0
77. Cal Poly 4 272 1656 6.09 17 414.0
80. Northern Ariz. 5 349 2087 5.98 19 417.4
83. Montana St. 5 380 2122 5.58 19 424.4
88. Eastern Wash. 5 368 2150 5.84 23 430.0
93. Weber St. 5 362 2234 6.17 22 446.8
97. Sacramento St. 5 385 2291 5.95 20 458.2
101. Idaho St. 4 297 1879 6.33 21 469.8
108. UC Davis 4 283 1938 6.85 20 484.5
113. Southern Utah 5 405 2587 6.39 23 517.4
117. Portland St. 4 337 2171 6.44 21 542.8

Also, this is out of 121 teams, which means all but two BSC defenses are in the bottom half in the nation statistically. JFC that's terrible.

got to be licking our chops to see our offense against the rest of the league

Definitely, especially since outside of maybe ISU, not one of them have the offense to keep up. Still need to improve on D before the playoffs though.

Concur. A lot of youth. Today should be a good measuring stick on how far they have come. Don't want to look by the rest of the schedule, but taking care of business today will probably put my mind on the griz...

 

[clawman1]

Which team are the Eagles most likely to shut-out?? well at least through 3 qtrs before a lot of reserves are playing.

 

[Rjones61]

Which team are the Eagles most likely to shut-out?? well at least through 3 qtrs before a lot of reserves are playing.

Southern Utah. Their offense is pretty atrocious.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Which team are the Eagles most likely to shut-out?? well at least through 3 qtrs before a lot of reserves are playing.

I'd say we aren't likely to shut out anyone through 3 quarters. The best chance would likely be SUU, or UND because their offense is so putrid.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Question for the former players that post on this board, what are you seeing that makes this defense so bad? Is it just the youth all over the field? As the year goes on, I can't remember watching an Eastern defense that was this bad.