In my humble opinion the main problem with our football team this year is the offensive line. I think our running backs, wide receivers, tight-ends and yes even our Qb are good enough to win. We gotta get some offensive linemen that move their feet and can sustain a block. Being big and fat is no good if you can't move all that bulk around. Our QB played as well as can be expected for someone who has no time to do anything back there. Our defense is good, our offense is good except for at its core the offensive line. And yes, I agree with many here who believe that we need a better offensive coordinator. With a good OC and a better OL we would be in the hunt for a national championship. EWU beats us 42-19 next week!
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- Thread starter talhadfoursteals
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Going to ramble here…
The offensive line was a sieve in pass protection last night.. Yet, I look at the individual talent we have on offense and it’s inexcusable to have such poor production. Barron is better than anything we’ve had since Cantwell, and will surpass Cantwell in time. Davis and McMillan are big play threats in the backfield. We have the most talented receivers we’ve had since 2009. Solid tight ends (Malone how are you going to catch that Hail Mary in the spring yet drop that 4th and 2 pass last night?).
Even if the line is weak, there’s no excuse for our inability to create big plays or sustain drives. College football across the country is played up-tempo with offenses stretching defenses vertically and horizontally. Teams are putting up quality numbers with much less talent than we have. We make blocking and catching look SO difficult. We play with no pace. We jump from spread formations to heavy formations with no rhyme or rhythm. We have the fastest receiver in the FCS yet can’t stop defenses from stacking the box. Grimes put up 800 yards at UNLV but we can’t get him the ball. Whatever we’re attempting to do on offense is broken.
James Madison, UC Davis, and MSU all had the exact same gameplan. They played extremely conservative on offense, didn’t feel any stress if they went 3 and out, and just waited for our offense to melt down and give points away. They felt no pressure to push the ball down the field because they were comfortable to punt and wait for our offense to turn it over. And it worked for all of them.
The offensive line was a sieve in pass protection last night.. Yet, I look at the individual talent we have on offense and it’s inexcusable to have such poor production. Barron is better than anything we’ve had since Cantwell, and will surpass Cantwell in time. Davis and McMillan are big play threats in the backfield. We have the most talented receivers we’ve had since 2009. Solid tight ends (Malone how are you going to catch that Hail Mary in the spring yet drop that 4th and 2 pass last night?).
Even if the line is weak, there’s no excuse for our inability to create big plays or sustain drives. College football across the country is played up-tempo with offenses stretching defenses vertically and horizontally. Teams are putting up quality numbers with much less talent than we have. We make blocking and catching look SO difficult. We play with no pace. We jump from spread formations to heavy formations with no rhyme or rhythm. We have the fastest receiver in the FCS yet can’t stop defenses from stacking the box. Grimes put up 800 yards at UNLV but we can’t get him the ball. Whatever we’re attempting to do on offense is broken.
James Madison, UC Davis, and MSU all had the exact same gameplan. They played extremely conservative on offense, didn’t feel any stress if they went 3 and out, and just waited for our offense to melt down and give points away. They felt no pressure to push the ball down the field because they were comfortable to punt and wait for our offense to turn it over. And it worked for all of them.
cats25061
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Everyone on BN seems to be complaining about our offense and praising our defense for keeping us in the game and giving us the turnovers to finally win it. I see it a little differently, I saw what I think are the top 2 defenses in the BSC slugging it out. The offenses weren't anemic as much as they were up against very good defenses. As a fan of good defense I really enjoyed watching this game. I always cheer for the Wildcats when you aren't playing MSU. I will be very interested to see how your Defense handles EWU's Offense. Good luck the rest of the season.
The Dan said:
Very astute observations. We do have the talent to put up numbers even against a very good defense like MSU had. With the talent we have on offense there is absolutely no excuse why our "O" is so inept. . . Well I can think of a couple of people who are totally responsible for our inept offense. The incompetent offensive coordinator we have along with the head coach who refuses to hold him accountable for his incompetence.
Chex
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The Dan said:
Agree with most of your comments, but have to disagree with you on Barron overtaking Cantwell. Cantwell was a one-year Senior Starter. That dude knew how to ball. He could run (Barron can’t even when healthy) he could pass, and he was clearly the leader and heart and soul of the team who could make the big play when needed. I think he only got knocked out of the SUU game because of the concussion protocol and probably would have played through it otherwise. Barron gets dinged up a lot and his best game was his first. I’ve only seen him make more bad pass decisions as time has gone on.
When Hammer called the corner fade on a 4th and 2 at the opponents 33 yard line (couldn’t kick as we have no kicker and a strange poor choice of a play call), the receiver had two steps on the defender and the ball was under thrown for the breakup. Barron also had a wide open receiver on a few plays he misread…granted he was getting pressured…but he still didn’t make the read. I understood some of the sacks, but a few were easily preventable by throwing the ball away. I don’t see Barron becoming a Big Sky level QB much less on the same level as Cantwell. I certainly hope I am wrong, but I’m not seeing it.
Chex said:
:nod: The level of QB performance (overall) has dropped since Cantwell....& for that matter, so has the OC coaching performance (since Fesi Sitake in that first JMU exciting playoff game)! The woes of a weaker offense since have persisted, especially in the FCS playoffs. :twocents:
talhadfoursteals
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Barron is a decent QB and will learn. If he has the right coaching the kid could become special. Give him time. You can't expect perfection from a freshmen. Also, he was coming back from an injury. His timing was off and he's virtually one-dimensional until he gets healthier. He was not the reason why the offense looks like crap.
1. Montana State's defense is that good.
2. Play calling is terrible and the wrong plays are being called in the wrong situations.
3. Offensive execution. Gotta catch the ball, run the right routes and make the right blocks.
4. Scheme. I'm not sure if our aim is to confuse the defense or our offensive players. What are we trying to do?
5. One-dimensional. Every team knows we are obsessed with running the ball, but our run plays are predictable. Nothing off tackle or outside.
6. Turnovers. Its been a decade since we turned over the ball this much. Hammer was the OC then too.
7. OC. He just hasn't developed as a coach.
8. Player development or use. Case in point, OL. These guys were recruited for a specific style of play but they aren't being used for the style they have played or trained for. They just don't seem mobile. They are big, BUT what does the get you if they can't move?
1. Montana State's defense is that good.
2. Play calling is terrible and the wrong plays are being called in the wrong situations.
3. Offensive execution. Gotta catch the ball, run the right routes and make the right blocks.
4. Scheme. I'm not sure if our aim is to confuse the defense or our offensive players. What are we trying to do?
5. One-dimensional. Every team knows we are obsessed with running the ball, but our run plays are predictable. Nothing off tackle or outside.
6. Turnovers. Its been a decade since we turned over the ball this much. Hammer was the OC then too.
7. OC. He just hasn't developed as a coach.
8. Player development or use. Case in point, OL. These guys were recruited for a specific style of play but they aren't being used for the style they have played or trained for. They just don't seem mobile. They are big, BUT what does the get you if they can't move?