It's official: Kaufman and Padron to draft

[RockTheRed]

I never said Padrons intention was to transfer.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

 

[RockTheRed]

Again with the word transfer.

Remove that word. Transfer is NOT what Padron is rumored to be doing.

I also didn't say he was hanging up his cleats. Read. Between. The. Lines.

 

[sunday]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

What is the process for a player to 'declare?' Is that like 'testing the waters?' He's okay with coming back unless he hires an agent, right? Tony Jefferson from our HS, now a Jr. Safety at Oklahoma, got a 'grade' from NFL scouts before their bowl game last night. He is deciding what to do based on that information. Is this part of the "declaring?"

 

[DefendtheRed]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

 

[EWURanger]

Again with the word transfer.

Remove that word. Transfer is NOT what Padron is rumored to be doing.

I also didn't say he was hanging up his cleats. Read. Between. The. Lines.

I heard that a while back as well. This guy is usually correct and had the inside scoop on TJ before anyone else as well.

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:

Word on the street is that if EWU QB Kyle Padron has a big year he will declare for the NFL Draft. He and Marcus Coker are two players high on my potential early entry watch list

I guess the question is, did he have a big enough year splitting time with Adams? Dunno, I definitely think he would benefit from an additional year, but the thing is if he ends up splitting PT with Adams again will that really make a difference? I think he has NFL ability, but I am wondering what his draft stock looks like right now.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I never said that he is not ready. It's all about draft stock, and in my opinion his stick will rise markedly given another dominant season playing college ball. It's not about the records, although those would certainly help him out. I think Kaufman has a chance to be a big time NFL receiver but I don't want to see him squander an opportunity by coming out too early and grtting stuck with a crap deal when he could get drafted 1-2 rounds higher next year.

 

[EWURanger]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I never said that he is not ready. It's all about draft stock, and in my opinion his stick will rise markedly given another dominant season playing college ball. It's not about the records, although those would certainly help him out. I think Kaufman has a chance to be a big time NFL receiver but I don't want to see him squander an opportunity by coming out too early and grtting stuck with a crap deal when he could get drafted 1-2 rounds higher next year.

While I will admit that for my own selfish reasons I don't want to see him go, I do agree with these sentiments. If he doesn't project in the 3-4 rounds, there is absolutely no reason to declare early IMO. I know the situations are different, but look at the examples we have of former EWU players that have left after their Junior season. Chatman left, and ended up mostly playing on Special Teams. Taiwan left early, and now it looks like will be converted to corner because he did not have enough development as a RB after having only played two years in that position in college. Again, different situations than Kauf, but sometimes I can't help but think that these guys see the $ signs and want to jump prematurely. A couple positives of if he DOES come out early would be that he will graduate this year (I have heard), so we shouldn't take a hit on APR. And then of course having another player in the NFL won't hurt the school's football pedigree either. But damn, I cannot help but think that he could come back next season and break every record in the FCS and go in a much higher round. :twocents:

 

[EWURanger]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

He is ready, but if he can make a few more million dollars by waiting another year, why would he come out early?

 

[DefendtheRed]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I never said that he is not ready. It's all about draft stock, and in my opinion his stick will rise markedly given another dominant season playing college ball. It's not about the records, although those would certainly help him out. I think Kaufman has a chance to be a big time NFL receiver but I don't want to see him squander an opportunity by coming out too early and grtting stuck with a crap deal when he could get drafted 1-2 rounds higher next year.

You are just assuming he would get a bad deal by coming out this season, but how do you know that?

 

[DefendtheRed]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

He is ready, but if he can make a few more million dollars by waiting another year, why would he come out early?

And how can you be sure he would make "a few more million" dollars by coming out next season, which I also believe to be a gross exaggeration? A better question might be, if he has the opportunity to get drafted now, and he will complete his degree in the Spring, then why would he wait another year and risk injury? Kaufman has the tools to play in the NFL right now but some of you seem so obsessed with winning you don't want to see what's best for the individual.

 

[EWURanger]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

He is ready, but if he can make a few more million dollars by waiting another year, why would he come out early?

And how can you be sure he would make "a few more million" dollars by coming out next season, which I also believe to be a gross exaggeration? A better question might be, if he has the opportunity to get drafted now, and he will complete his degree in the Spring, then why would he wait another year and risk injury? Kaufman has the tools to play in the NFL right now but some of you seem so obsessed with winning you don't want to see what's best for the individual.

It's just my opinion that he would go higher next season. I obviously have no way of knowing that for sure, but we aren't talking about a kid from USC or Alabama where it's a no-brainer because he is going to get drafted in the first couple of rounds. And there are plenty of examples of kids coming out early and not panning out because even though they had the athletic ability they didn't have enough development at the college level.

Also, even if Brandon is projected as one of the better Receivers in this year's draft, the fact that he is a skill position players from the Big Sky will bump him a couple of rounds. There is always that bias and stigma of not coming from a BCS school. Coming out early will bump him another couple of rounds, so my best guess is rounds 5-7. So the question of whether or not it's worth it for him definitely comes into play. Is getting drafted in a very low round worth it? What if he ends up not being drafted at all? Is that worth it to forego your Senior year? Just some thoughts...

On a positive note, at least we have some things to talk about in the off-season, even if it involves losing star players to the NFL and coaches to bigger programs. :lol:

 

[kalm]

I am also now hearing Kaufman will declare, which is a mistake in my opinion but still wish him best of luck if true. I think the Padron rumor is BS. I don't think he would transfer again, and why on earth would he hang up his cleats with a year of eligibility left?

I also would not want to see Kauf leave but I'm no sure what else you think he has too accomplish or why you would think he is not ready to play in the NFL. We're talking about one of the most dominant receivers at this level since Moss, I mean does he really need to break more records to prove that?

He is ready, but if he can make a few more million dollars by waiting another year, why would he come out early?

And how can you be sure he would make "a few more million" dollars by coming out next season, which I also believe to be a gross exaggeration? A better question might be, if he has the opportunity to get drafted now, and he will complete his degree in the Spring, then why would he wait another year and risk injury? Kaufman has the tools to play in the NFL right now but some of you seem so obsessed with winning you don't want to see what's best for the individual.

It's just my opinion that he would go higher next season. I obviously have no way of knowing that for sure, but we aren't talking about a kid from USC or Alabama where it's a no-brainer because he is going to get drafted in the first couple of rounds. And there are plenty of examples of kids coming out early and not panning out because even though they had the athletic ability they didn't have enough development at the college level.

Also, even if Brandon is projected as one of the better Receivers in this year's draft, the fact that he is a skill position players from the Big Sky will bump him a couple of rounds. There is always that bias and stigma of not coming from a BCS school. Coming out early will bump him another couple of rounds, so my best guess is rounds 5-7. So the question of whether or not it's worth it for him definitely comes into play. Is getting drafted in a very low round worth it? What if he ends up not being drafted at all? Is that worth it to forego your Senior year? Just some thoughts...

On a positive note, at least we have some things to talk about in the off-season, even if it involves losing star players to the NFL and coaches to bigger programs. :lol:

My thoughts exactly and I think the guaranteed signing bonuses go up dramatically once you go 4th round or higher. The other thing I've heard that might be dragging him down is his 40 time. The draft is still a stop watch/measuring stick process, and the NFL is all about opportunity. A draftee that a team has invested a larger signing bonus in will get more opportunity. So he might have quite a bit to gain from sticking around.

 

[LDopaPDX]

There's almost no doubt he'd make substantially more next year in the draft than now. Although the number is probably closer to $500k. The caveat is that he could get injured, but you can get insurance policies on that sort of thing (they aren't cheap, but for a $1m payout, spending $25k that you can recoup later isn't a bad deal).

I see no logic in him coming out early. He's not going to climb into the top 10 WRs, probably not even top 20 this year. There would be a decent chance he wouldn't be drafted at all. Plus, as mentioned earlier, the last two guys who came out early from EWU didn't materialize.

I strongly suspect he's in school next year. I don't think Kaufman is the kind of kid who's going to let some agent get in his ear and sell him delusions of grandeur.

 

[EWURanger]

There's almost no doubt he'd make substantially more next year in the draft than now. Although the number is probably closer to $500k. The caveat is that he could get injured, but you can get insurance policies on that sort of thing (they aren't cheap, but for a $1m payout, spending $25k that you can recoup later isn't a bad deal).

I see no logic in him coming out early. He's not going to climb into the top 10 WRs, probably not even top 20 this year. There would be a decent chance he wouldn't be drafted at all. Plus, as mentioned earlier, the last two guys who came out early from EWU didn't materialize.

I strongly suspect he's in school next year. I don't think Kaufman is the kind of kid who's going to let some agent get in his ear and sell him delusions of grandeur.

Precisely, although most everything I have read has him projected as the #20 WR if he were to declare this year.

 

[marceagfan5]

I want Kaufman to stay just as much as anyone, but trying to make the argument as to why he should just doesn't work.

What else can he do at the FCS level? He broke records this year, won a national championship in 2010, what else is there. What is he going to accomplish next year that will really propel him higher in the draft??? Remember, EWU is in the FCS, which does not get a ton of credit, so even if he has a monster year next year, I highly doubt it will change his draft stock. He runs a bigger risk of getting injured next year, than moving up in his draft stock. Remember, he played with a separated should almost the entire 2010 season, broke his hand in 2011, and injured his shoulder again this year. If its true that he already finished school, its a tough argument for him to stay.

I want him to stay another year, just as much as anyone, but trying to argue for it is ridiculous. No way a great year next year props him up that much in the draft....

Strike while the iron is hot...

just my :twocents:

 

[CouvEagle]

Well if Padron had to pick a year to leave, it's this one as the QB class is very underwhelming. I don't think he'll be drafted however. Especially if they use the "you're as good as your last game" philosophy. I hope Kaufman sticks around but it's hard to top the year he had. I just worry he'll be drafted lower than if he stuck around another year because of his injury past.

 

[Obzerver]

Heard after dissecting next years schedule he came to the conclusion the playoffs were in jeopardy. Also in the two FBS games may be tuff getting many catches and in the lower division game they may play some of the younger wr's to get them touches then there's a tuff SHSU who know him and will make sure they don't make the same mistake twice...then a tough conference schedule. Playoffs?

 

[CouvEagle]

:ugeek:

Heard after dissecting next years schedule he came to the conclusion the playoffs were in jeopardy. Also in the two FBS games may be tuff getting many catches and in the lower division game they may play some of the younger wr's to get them touches then there's a tuff SHSU who know him and will make sure they don't make the same mistake twice...then a tough conference schedule. Playoffs?

Well if he came to to that conclusion than good riddance. What a coward. SHSU knows Vernon Adams passed for 6 TD's on them in a half. If what you said is true, the Eagles don't need anyone to think like that. Sayonara

 

[EWURanger]

Heard after dissecting next years schedule he came to the conclusion the playoffs were in jeopardy. Also in the two FBS games may be tuff getting many catches and in the lower division game they may play some of the younger wr's to get them touches then there's a tuff SHSU who know him and will make sure they don't make the same mistake twice...then a tough conference schedule. Playoffs?

I truly hope this is a joke.