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It's official: Kaufman and Padron to draft

Just kidding....like he would really look at his decision in that fashion. Now, I would but I'm broke and a coward :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek:

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CouvEagle said:
Well if Padron had to pick a year to leave, it's this one as the QB class is very underwhelming. I don't think he'll be drafted however. Especially if they use the "you're as good as your last game" philosophy. I hope Kaufman sticks around but it's hard to top the year he had. I just worry he'll be drafted lower than if he stuck around another year because of his injury past.

I'm not trying to be an idiot, but tell me what QB has been drafted that didn't start the entire year for the team they led? We had to change QB's multiple times because we couldn't move the ball. Am I the only one looking at this scratching my head? If you can't secure THE starting job ALL year, why would a NFL team draft you?

For all you guys who saw the evolution and play of Bo Levi Mitchell, what do you say? Is Padron better than, equal to, or under Mitchell's ability? Maybe the CFL...???
 
I think it is hard to tell. Not playing most of the season there really wasn't enough to evaluate.
BLM had his ups and downs and he had Jones to bail him out many times during his first season.
From what I can say he has a great arm and great accuracy, but he holds onto the ball sometimes too long in the pocket. I think that was one of the main reasons he got pulled in the last game.
I think you are correct if he is going his likely destination will be the CFL.
 
sunday said:
CouvEagle said:
Well if Padron had to pick a year to leave, it's this one as the QB class is very underwhelming. I don't think he'll be drafted however. Especially if they use the "you're as good as your last game" philosophy. I hope Kaufman sticks around but it's hard to top the year he had. I just worry he'll be drafted lower than if he stuck around another year because of his injury past.

I'm not trying to be an idiot, but tell me what QB has been drafted that didn't start the entire year for the team they led? We had to change QB's multiple times because we couldn't move the ball. Am I the only one looking at this scratching my head? If you can't secure THE starting job ALL year, why would a NFL team draft you?

For all you guys who saw the evolution and play of Bo Levi Mitchell, what do you say? Is Padron better than, equal to, or under Mitchell's ability? Maybe the CFL...???

I think it's hard to compare Kyle with Mitchell at this point. Bo Levi transferred in before Spring ball and had the job locked up prior to the 2010 season. And even then, he was shakey at times early on. He didn't really come on strong until towards the end of the 2010 season, and even then he was horrible in the NDSU game, save the final drive. Obviously in 2011 he was just on a different level - light years ahead of where he was as a Junior, IMO. Check out any of te highlight videos from 2011 and you'll see what I mean.

Kyle didn't play spring ball and had to learn everything on the fly. And I think it's hard to really evaluate him on the same level as a guy who was the lone starter for 2 entire seasons. I don't really think that either one was better or worse than the other in their first season.

And then Adams is obviously just completely different than either one.
 
sunday said:
CouvEagle said:
Well if Padron had to pick a year to leave, it's this one as the QB class is very underwhelming. I don't think he'll be drafted however. Especially if they use the "you're as good as your last game" philosophy. I hope Kaufman sticks around but it's hard to top the year he had. I just worry he'll be drafted lower than if he stuck around another year because of his injury past.

I'm not trying to be an idiot, but tell me what QB has been drafted that didn't start the entire year for the team they led? We had to change QB's multiple times because we couldn't move the ball. Am I the only one looking at this scratching my head? If you can't secure THE starting job ALL year, why would a NFL team draft you?

For all you guys who saw the evolution and play of Bo Levi Mitchell, what do you say? Is Padron better than, equal to, or under Mitchell's ability? Maybe the CFL...???

Matt Cassel is one that comes to mind, in fact he was drafted in the 7th round as a qb that never started a single college game. I understand that he went to USC and played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Lienart, but in his entire college career he was 19 of 33 for 192 yards. The point is, is that NFL scouts will give guys a shot if they have the arm strength, height and other football measurables. It is a lot harder to get a shot if you win a ton of games and don't have the measurables. Padron has the measurables and will get invited to an NFL camp somewhere, but his chances of making a team are a long shot either this year or next.

As far as Kaufman goes, he is currently not even rated as a 7th rounder. Leaving early would be a dumb choice if he wants the best shot at an NFL career. As hard as it is for some people to believe, maybe a football career is not his first priority and he is willing to give it a shot and move on. But, given his draft status as of now, it should not be a question that he returns if he wants the best chance of NFL success. NFL teams take longer looks at their draft choices then undrafted free agents, period.

My personal opinion is there is no question that Kaufman is an NFL talent that could be great at the next level. If that is what he wants, it is also MY opinion that he should stay another year.
 
Yikes....remember, these are just rumors, nothing is official yet. Nothing about Padron or Kaufman leaving early is set in stone. On top of that, don't you think these guys are getting the best advice they can??? If Kauf or Padron leaves early, its because they weighed ALL of their options and it was best to leave this year. We can argue all we want about why we want them to stay, but they have to make the best decision for themselves, and they have worlds more knowledge about where they will be drafted than we do.

But...IMO...for those of you that think Kaufman staying is going to help his draft stock, that is a joke. If he stays it will be for other reasons, not to help his draft stock. No way another big year in the FCS helps his stock, and he risks another injury. You also have to look at the 2013 draft class, it is way, way down with offensive skill position talent, and on top of that, the NFL has become a very pass happy league. Kaufman may not be on a lot of "Draft Sports Blog Insider" boards (but who in the FCS really is), but I guarantee he has actual NFL teams interested.
 
sunday said:
CouvEagle said:
Well if Padron had to pick a year to leave, it's this one as the QB class is very underwhelming. I don't think he'll be drafted however. Especially if they use the "you're as good as your last game" philosophy. I hope Kaufman sticks around but it's hard to top the year he had. I just worry he'll be drafted lower than if he stuck around another year because of his injury past.

I'm not trying to be an idiot, but tell me what QB has been drafted that didn't start the entire year for the team they led? We had to change QB's multiple times because we couldn't move the ball. Am I the only one looking at this scratching my head? If you can't secure THE starting job ALL year, why would a NFL team draft you?

For all you guys who saw the evolution and play of Bo Levi Mitchell, what do you say? Is Padron better than, equal to, or under Mitchell's ability? Maybe the CFL...???

Up early for work, so I can get my replying in. I didn't say Mr. P would be drafted I just was being semi-sarcastic that if he left, this would be the year. No way is he getting drafted with his sidearm throwing motion and low release point. But it is clear that this years class of QB's isn't like the last. And if any hopeful college guy wants to go pro, this is probably the year
 
Obzerver said:
Just kidding....like he would really look at his decision in that fashion. Now, I would but I'm broke and a coward :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek:

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Awe what a cute little courageous lion picture. I'm sure you know I wasn't calling YOU a coward. Just stating that if you had some inside info on Mr. P's thought processes then he may or may not be a coward. Ranger said it best, hope you're kidding, but no one can really tell with wizard of oz pictures and emoticons.
 
Obzerver said:
Just kidding....like he would really look at his decision in that fashion. Now, I would but I'm broke and a coward :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek:

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I gotta admit, I got a chuckle outta this... :lol:
 
marceagfan5 said:
Yikes....remember, these are just rumors, nothing is official yet. Nothing about Padron or Kaufman leaving early is set in stone. On top of that, don't you think these guys are getting the best advice they can??? If Kauf or Padron leaves early, its because they weighed ALL of their options and it was best to leave this year. We can argue all we want about why we want them to stay, but they have to make the best decision for themselves, and they have worlds more knowledge about where they will be drafted than we do.

But...IMO...for those of you that think Kaufman staying is going to help his draft stock, that is a joke. If he stays it will be for other reasons, not to help his draft stock. No way another big year in the FCS helps his stock, and he risks another injury. You also have to look at the 2013 draft class, it is way, way down with offensive skill position talent, and on top of that, the NFL has become a very pass happy league. Kaufman may not be on a lot of "Draft Sports Blog Insider" boards (but who in the FCS really is), but I guarantee he has actual NFL teams interested.

If the limited exposure of FCS is hurting his stock, wouldn't one more year of exposure (albeit limited) and highlight reels help?
 
marceagfan5 said:
Yikes....remember, these are just rumors, nothing is official yet. Nothing about Padron or Kaufman leaving early is set in stone. On top of that, don't you think these guys are getting the best advice they can??? If Kauf or Padron leaves early, its because they weighed ALL of their options and it was best to leave this year. We can argue all we want about why we want them to stay, but they have to make the best decision for themselves, and they have worlds more knowledge about where they will be drafted than we do.

But...IMO...for those of you that think Kaufman staying is going to help his draft stock, that is a joke. If he stays it will be for other reasons, not to help his draft stock. No way another big year in the FCS helps his stock, and he risks another injury. You also have to look at the 2013 draft class, it is way, way down with offensive skill position talent, and on top of that, the NFL has become a very pass happy league. Kaufman may not be on a lot of "Draft Sports Blog Insider" boards (but who in the FCS really is), but I guarantee he has actual NFL teams interested.

Fact of the matter is we all have no idea where he's rated. Like I said before NFLDraftScout.com has him at a 4th or 5th round grade but some people here say he's not even going to get drafted. Combine and pro day results have some weight, just like any other prospect. But very few FCS prospects leave early to help their status. Can't even think of one really besides Taiwan.
 
From an NFL scout on AGS:
They aren't going anywhere. Padron didn't have a good enough year and Kaufman is still at the end of the day a 4.55-4.60 guy so he won't go too high as a junior. He needs another year. Expect him to be a mid round projection heading into the year while Padron is more of a free agent.
 
Talking with my son, evidently Kauf and KP are both giving the draft a try..were not at workouts this week.Edwards and Herd are looking at the next level as well. I wish them all the best and know that they will represent EWU well.
 
Yep, it's official. Thank you BK for all that you have done for this program and good luck!

http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nfl-draft-fcs-receiver-brandon-kaufman-leaving-school-early.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
EWURanger said:
Yep, it's official. Thank you BK for all that you have done for this program and good luck!

http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nfl-draft-fcs-receiver-brandon-kaufman-leaving-school-early.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
EWURanger said:
I had to change the thread title again. Apparently, Padron is also going. Good luck to both!

I just read that in a PM on AGS from the scout (SCFBF)

Well a coach just told me Padron is gone and they are trying to talk Kaufman out of it but he is leaning. Turns out an agent got in their ears. NFL and the coaches are not backing this move if Kaufman is indeed leaving like some say. I just talked to a coach again today who told me that he didn't even know when I told him I heard he was leaving.

And I'm shocked because Kaufman told me a long time ago he was not looking to leave early. Apparently Padron wants out because he feels they aren't using him enough.
 
Good luck to those guys, I hope they are getting good information and find success at the next level.

I can't help but be a little sad to know that we won't be able to watch greatness for one more year on the red rug. Best of luck guys.
 
I guess he has to do what he feels is right for him, but this is a poor decision in my opinion. He would have fared better by playing another season.
 
Seattle Eagle said:
I guess he has to do what he feels is right for him, but this is a poor decision in my opinion. He would have fared better by playing another season.

The article I linked to pretty much echoes exactly what I have been saying about BK coming out early. I can't help but think this is not the best decision for him....but $$$ talks.
 

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