Lindenwod

[Beardown]

Probably the worst game Hinrichs has ever scheduled. After reviewing their roster and looking at film clips, they are a better team than UNC and we will lose this game. Plus, I think some of our guys might over look this game and look toward the CSU game. These guys are studs and way better athletes than we have. They lost their record breaking qb to graduation but have a new JC qb coming in that looks even better. Here's some high lights (If we lose this game Hinrichs should be fired)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYELOSIrQm8&feature=fvst" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgX_NOiz2S4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UMnRZpTJpU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14JrGug0EUA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[PlayerParent]

Probably the worst game Hinrichs has ever scheduled. After reviewing their roster and looking at film clips, they are a better team than UNC and we will lose this game. Plus, I think some of our guys might over look this game and look toward the CSU game. These guys are studs and way better athletes than we have. They lost their record breaking qb to graduation but have a new JC qb coming in that looks even better. Here's some high lights (If we lose this game Hinrichs should be fired)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYELOSIrQm8&feature=fvst" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgX_NOiz2S4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UMnRZpTJpU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14JrGug0EUA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Beardown,

Not sure I follow your logic here? Perhaps in some strange way you are trying pump up the program and fan base to make sure we don't over look Lindenwood or perhaps you really believe yourself. Let's breakdown this down...the 1st link you listed was posted in 2007 so I doubt very many of those players on the field will be playing at Nottingham on Sept 3rd, then again if they were you have to consider the competition in those highlights and I still did not see anything to warrant your prediction.

The second link from 2009, closer but still the majority of the playmakers will not be at Nottingham and I echo my comment above about the competition...let alone it's a HIGHLIGHT film which means put your best up for review.

The third link finally shows a glimpse into what we may see...but your prediction sounds more like you WANT us to lose than it does to being factual based on the clip. Remember, consider and take a good look at the competition.

Finally the 4th link, of their 2011 recruiting class? Really? These high school clips scare you?

Although we by no means need to take Lindenwood lightly as they are a successful program but to say we are going to lose based on these links and a look at their roster says more about you and your support of our program than about them.

But then, everyone is entitled to their opinion....that's way they play the game!

 

[Beardown]

It doesn't matter who and when I posted clips of Lindenwood. They just keep reloading. Just ask UND Sioux how they liked playing a top NAIA school (Sioux Falls). They got their asses handed to them and by the way the Sioux would kill us. I'm not trying to be a debby downer. Just calling it like I see it. They're a better team.

 

[PlayerParent]

Your opinion is duly noted, hopefully you're wrong and we can laugh about it over a drink!

Go Bears!

 

[jjjj]

I know you were a big Downing fan Beardown, so I understand the bitter take but I don't know how you can know what kind of a team UNC will be this year, it all depends on Collins. We should have beaten the national champions last year so the talent is obviously there, all the team needed was a coach who didn't give interviews (and I assume pregame speeches) like Snuffalupagus, Eeyore and Gomer Pile all rolled into one--and I think we now have that guy.

I can only picture what the halftime speeches must have been like when the team was down as usual:

"Well golly fellas you've really showed some things out there."

"just keep up the good work and shucks, who knows what might happen."

"Gee, those Montana players sure are big and fast aren't they fellas? Looks like they hit hard too."

I'm getting myself all worked up thinking about what that slug did to my Bears. All I can say is good riddance to Downing and his child bearing hips.

I like what I've read about Collins so far so I say our third string gets to play more than our first team in that game.

 

[#1bearsfan]

It doesn't matter who and when I posted clips of Lindenwood. They just keep reloading. Just ask UND Sioux how they liked playing a top NAIA school (Sioux Falls). They got their asses handed to them and by the way the Sioux would kill us. I'm not trying to be a debby downer. Just calling it like I see it. They're a better team.

Bd - would you rather play a patsy or play a team that will be a good test? We're a D1 program and need to start playing like one regardless of the competition. Plus, if the Bears stay healthy which is no guarantee in any game, this should prepare them for the tough competition they're going to face in the BS. I also believe that last year's win against Portland St. in the last game gave this team a lot of confidence which should carry through to this season. The one thing, among others, that I noticed about Lindenwood is that they seem to have a lot of team unity which is something that I think the Bears are lacking and really need. Hopefully, Collins will instill this concept in this year's team.
Some of the things I noticed in the UTube clips were that the opposing defenses missed a lot of tackles by not wraping up. They were also out of position and blew coverages. Things that are mental mistakes more than being overpowered.
Lindenwood appears to be a really good team and a really good program. I'm sure that the coaches will not allow UNC to overlook this team and in fact will reinforce that this team is a NAIA national champion and will give them everything they want.
While this year's UNC team may or may not win this game I think they will fight to the very end and not give up and fold as in years past. Going back to my previous comment, this team needs to play with pride and no quit which needs to be instilled in them from the get-go.
On another note, it would be great to see this team in new lighter color home uniforms that wouldn't be so hot during games in Sep't. I know this is a minor issue and probably not possible with the scarcity of funds in this athletic department.

 

[Onthesidelines]

Took a look at the Lindenwood roster and noticed there were quite a few out-of-state players (52% from out-of-state). Comparing that to our roster (68% in-state), maybe we need to do a better job selling the great program we have here to players from Florida, Texas, and California. Combined, they have 27 players from those states. In comparison, we only have 14.

 

[Beardown]

I know you were a big Downing fan Beardown, so I understand the bitter take but I don't know how you can know what kind of a team UNC will be this year, it all depends on Collins. We should have beaten the national champions last year so the talent is obviously there, all the team needed was a coach who didn't give interviews (and I assume pregame speeches) like Snuffalupagus, Eeyore and Gomer Pile all rolled into one--and I think we now have that guy.

I can only picture what the halftime speeches must have been like when the team was down as usual:

"Well golly fellas you've really showed some things out there."

"just keep up the good work and shucks, who knows what might happen."

"Gee, those Montana players sure are big and fast aren't they fellas? Looks like they hit hard too."

I'm getting myself all worked up thinking about what that slug did to my Bears. All I can say is good riddance to Downing and his child bearing hips.

I like what I've read about Collins so far so I say our third string gets to play more than our first team in that game.

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

 

[Bearsfan24]

It doesn't matter who and when I posted clips of Lindenwood. They just keep reloading. Just ask UND Sioux how they liked playing a top NAIA school (Sioux Falls). They got their asses handed to them and by the way the Sioux would kill us. I'm not trying to be a debby downer. Just calling it like I see it. They're a better team.

Sioux Falls is a power house, but I don't think LindenWood is that big of a power. I definitely think LindenWood is a good program. But take a look at some of the scores they had last season, they beat a team 90-19, 77-33, 68-7, and 69-7. To me, that's either, you play in a weak league or you have a good program. I think it's a combination of both. Last year they dominated their league but lost in the first round of the playoffs. Again showing that the league they play in isn't tough. 09 and 08 have been their best seasons in the past 7 years. I agree with playerparent some of those team in the videos don't look very good.

Anyway, I don't know too much about NAIA, or the talent gap between the two levels. I don't know if Lindenwood has ever played a IAA school before, judging from their past schedules they haven't but it only goes back to 2004. Which, I think, gives an advantage to UNC.

I agree this could be Chadron St all over again, but lets be honest, that UNC team was one the worst I've ever seen put on field. I think this team we have coming back is a lot better.


Edit:
I did a little research, and they did play Valparaiso (non-scholly team) back in 2002 and lost.

 

[PlayerParent]

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

 

[Beardown]

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

 

[PlayerParent]

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

So if this so-called promoted equipment manager can call plays that score points he will in turn give you everything you could ask for from an offense...That said, why put him (us) down? At least wait until he is given an opportunity to win you over...after all, at this point he is tied for the highest scoring offense of the 2011 Football season with every other OC on the planet (including Peterson) so why not root for him and the team and be "DOWN WITH THE BEARS" Mr. Beardown?

One more thing, you do realize that Peterson's offense on average put up LESS than a TD & extra point (6.6)
average per game than what Darnell's offense put up the year before? So Darnell as an OC is on par or just slightly lower than Peterson's greatness as an OC :notworthy:

 

[Beardown]

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

So if this so-called promoted equipment manager can call plays that score points he will in turn give you everything you could ask for from an offense...That said, why put him (us) down? At least wait until he is given an opportunity to win you over...after all, at this point he is tied for the highest scoring offense of the 2011 Football season with every other OC on the planet (including Peterson) so why not root for him and the team and be "DOWN WITH THE BEARS" Mr. Beardown?

One more thing, you do realize that Peterson's offense on average put up LESS than a TD & extra point (6.6)
average per game than what Darnell's offense put up the year before? So Darnell as an OC is on par or just slightly lower than Peterson's greatness as an OC :notworthy:

We had the highest avg points since moving up and we rushed the ball. I guess I just like that style better than the trendy up tempo stuff. I'll eat crow IF we beat Lindenwood, but I just don't see it.

 

[PlayerParent]

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

Yes, we should have had beat the Nat' Champs. However, last season we had a great offensive coordinator and this season have a guy who is 4 years removed from being an equipment manager (literally). Peterson and his expertise is the only thing that kept us in games last year and he is gone.

Beardown, you are really hyped on Peterson...Although I didn't see any evidence to back up your opinion that he is such a "great" OC I do know that if he were still here he would have a difficult time getting the players to buy into him and his program. He was not very well liked by any of the players on offense last season including all of those that are returning and no matter how good of an OC he may be lacking the skills to get the players to buy into what you are doing makes it very difficult to be successful on the field...

Peterson had great play calling. They scored points, that's all I ask from an offense. Now we have a guy that's four years removed from equipment manager.

So if this so-called promoted equipment manager can call plays that score points he will in turn give you everything you could ask for from an offense...That said, why put him (us) down? At least wait until he is given an opportunity to win you over...after all, at this point he is tied for the highest scoring offense of the 2011 Football season with every other OC on the planet (including Peterson) so why not root for him and the team and be "DOWN WITH THE BEARS" Mr. Beardown?

One more thing, you do realize that Peterson's offense on average put up LESS than a TD & extra point (6.6)
average per game than what Darnell's offense put up the year before? So Darnell as an OC is on par or just slightly lower than Peterson's greatness as an OC :notworthy:

We had the highest avg points since moving up and we rushed the ball. I guess I just like that style better than the trendy up tempo stuff. I'll eat crow IF we beat Lindenwood, but I just don't see it.

Fair enough Beardown, hopefully we can meet up after the Lindenwood game...I'll buy you a beer to go along with the "crow" and we can sit back and laugh together while we send Lindenwood back home singin this chant...

:rimshot: "You know it, you tell the story...you tell the whole damn world this is Bear Territory" :rimshot:

 

[Beardown]

Here is an article on Lindenwood from today's Trib. Looks like they lost a lot of key players from the past year. I'm curious as to anyone who might help out. In past they were NAIA and they had less restrictions on who they recruited is this correct? I've heard about this and their coach mentions that now they are NCAA Div 2 they have more restrictions. What are these restrictions? They've always been able to get JC guys and drop downs, but so have we. I have little knowledge about NAIA schools because we don't have any in CO. Anyone know what "less" restrictions" they have now?
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20110831/SPORTS/708319967/1051&ParentProfile=1001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[bearsradio]

Schollys are the #1 item. NAIA allows 24 scholarships, but grade/achievement scholarships are allowed, which can provide some leeway for programs. Here's a rough rundown on scholly allowances at each level:

http://www.active.com/football/Articles/Crunching_the_Numbers__Football_Scholarships.htm

Earnest addressed some of that in the Coaches Show this week, too, but I'm not sure if that made the 3rd segment. My producer in studio missed about 15 min. of the show :roll:

 

[jars]

Here is my outlook on the opener-

* Lindenwood plays NAIA ball, against NAIA teams, and though they run all over some of them, they are still NAIA.

*In 2007 UNC lost their first home game to RMAC champs Chadron State 31-0, seemed unbelievable at the time, but can anybody say out coached, out played, and done in by Danny Woodhead?

*Lindenwood has never been, nor likely will ever be as good as that 2007 Chadron State team, and they will likely never have anyone near as fast and tough as Woodhead.

*UNC will likely never be as bad as they were in 2007, I guarantee the 2011 Bears will be much better than that team.

I was not at all surprised by the Chadron State win, but I was shocked that they shut us out. hno: hno:

I will be shocked if the Bears drop this game to Lindenwood.

UNC- 41
Lindenwood- 21

 

[beardevil39]

I say its 41-zippo,Otter. I think this defense has a lot of pride and they will not let them score !!

 

[gobears2010]

Here is an article on Lindenwood from today's Trib. Looks like they lost a lot of key players from the past year. I'm curious as to anyone who might help out. In past they were NAIA and they had less restrictions on who they recruited is this correct? I've heard about this and their coach mentions that now they are NCAA Div 2 they have more restrictions. What are these restrictions? They've always been able to get JC guys and drop downs, but so have we. I have little knowledge about NAIA schools because we don't have any in CO. Anyone know what "less" restrictions" they have now?
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20110831/SPORTS/708319967/1051&ParentProfile=1001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The looser NAIA restrictions have to do with academics. As an NAIA school, Lindenwood could get DI transfers that didn't meet NCAA eligibility requirements with their grades. They won't have that luxury in D2.

 

[Bearsfan24]

Here is my outlook on the opener-

* Lindenwood plays NAIA ball, against NAIA teams, and though they run all over some of them, they are still NAIA.

*In 2007 UNC lost their first home game to RMAC champs Chadron State 31-0, seemed unbelievable at the time, but can anybody say out coached, out played, and done in by Danny Woodhead?

*Lindenwood has never been, nor likely will ever be as good as that 2007 Chadron State team, and they will likely never have anyone near as fast and tough as Woodhead.

*UNC will likely never be as bad as they were in 2007, I guarantee the 2011 Bears will be much better than that team.

I was not at all surprised by the Chadron State win, but I was shocked that they shut us out. hno: hno:

I will be shocked if the Bears drop this game to Lindenwood.

UNC- 41
Lindenwood- 21

Yeah that's an accurate assessment.

I don't see UNC losing this one. I think it will be close early, and then UNC will pull away late, wearing down Lindenwood.