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gobears2010 said:
Bearsfan24 said:
This loss doesn't mean much, it sure would've helped though. As long as we shake this one off, and take care of business we'll be alright. We have a couple non-conference games coming up to get all of the kinks out and prepare us for the home finish.

This loss meant everything. It was the difference between hosting the tournament and having a decent shot to win it or going to Missoula and having a very slim chance to win it.*

*This scenario subject to change if Montana loses a game somewhere.

No it didn't. We're fine, Montana's last 2 conference games are on the road at EWU and Port St. Montana's been .500 on the road. Beside you can't always shit a brick when you have to play at Montana.
 
everettgriz said:
Holy crap Beitzel is a great player. I won't miss him next year.

BQ is also a great player. I'd love to have him back next year.

The difference tonight was Selvig. He played leaps and bounds better than he did in Greeley, and it made all the difference. It was nice seeing Cherry on the floor, but he clearly wasn't anywhere near 100%.

Yeah, both those guys have been good for the conference.
 
Agree for everyone who thought Devon was kinda a flash in a pan player, they are dead wrong. He showed how much talent he has. I agree Selvig he stepped up big. I have no idea why they would risk playing Cherry in this game. No one on UNC played well with the exception of Devon. I do think there will be a rematch coming up in the next month or so.

One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards. Clearly you guys had a better game then us, but it will be a fun tournament no matter where it is.

I'm not even going to comment about the refs they didn't decide this game. They were as bad and as inconsistent as they usually are. So, no surprise there.
 
Bearsfan24 said:
gobears2010 said:
Bearsfan24 said:
This loss doesn't mean much, it sure would've helped though. As long as we shake this one off, and take care of business we'll be alright. We have a couple non-conference games coming up to get all of the kinks out and prepare us for the home finish.

This loss meant everything. It was the difference between hosting the tournament and having a decent shot to win it or going to Missoula and having a very slim chance to win it.*

*This scenario subject to change if Montana loses a game somewhere.

No it didn't. We're fine, Montana's last 2 conference games are on the road at EWU and Port St. Montana's been .500 on the road. Beside you can't always shit a brick when you have to play at Montana.

You didn't look at the asterisk, did you? It was a big loss, you can't count on Montana losing again, and if they don't, they host, and I don't like our chances up there...
 
gobears2010 said:
Bearsfan24 said:
gobears2010 said:
Bearsfan24 said:
This loss doesn't mean much, it sure would've helped though. As long as we shake this one off, and take care of business we'll be alright. We have a couple non-conference games coming up to get all of the kinks out and prepare us for the home finish.

This loss meant everything. It was the difference between hosting the tournament and having a decent shot to win it or going to Missoula and having a very slim chance to win it.*

*This scenario subject to change if Montana loses a game somewhere.

No it didn't. We're fine, Montana's last 2 conference games are on the road at EWU and Port St. Montana's been .500 on the road. Beside you can't always shit a brick when you have to play at Montana.

You didn't look at the asterisk, did you? It was a big loss, you can't count on Montana losing again, and if they don't, they host, and I don't like our chances up there...


I know it was a big loss, and so what if they host. Being scared of having to go to Montana for the tourney is pussy talk bro.
 
One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards


Yep, that was a huge concern tonight. Very astute point, 123. Part of that was that UNC missed a ton of long shots, which inevitably lead to long rebounds. But nonetheless, UM gave up far too many offensive boards and it kept UNC in a game which probably should have been a complete blowout.
 
bearsden123 said:
Agree for everyone who thought Devon was kinda a flash in a pan player, they are dead wrong. He showed how much talent he has. I agree Selvig he stepped up big. I have no idea why they would risk playing Cherry in this game. No one on UNC played well with the exception of Devon. I do think there will be a rematch coming up in the next month or so.

One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards. Clearly you guys had a better game then us, but it will be a fun tournament no matter where it is.

I'm not even going to comment about the refs they didn't decide this game. They were as bad and as inconsistent as they usually are. So, no surprise there.

I agree, when Devon is on, he's a man amongst boys. Devon > anything Montana has.
 
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
Agree for everyone who thought Devon was kinda a flash in a pan player, they are dead wrong. He showed how much talent he has. I agree Selvig he stepped up big. I have no idea why they would risk playing Cherry in this game. No one on UNC played well with the exception of Devon. I do think there will be a rematch coming up in the next month or so.

One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards. Clearly you guys had a better game then us, but it will be a fun tournament no matter where it is.

I'm not even going to comment about the refs they didn't decide this game. They were as bad and as inconsistent as they usually are. So, no surprise there.

I agree, when Devon is on, he's a man amongst boys. Devon > anything Montana has.

Sorry. Qvale is the best player in the league.
 
If the Bears and Griz each lose one more, Weber wins out, and NAU finishes behind all of us, the tournament will be in Ogden. We all split against each other, UNC and UM were 1-1 against NAU and Weber was 2-0. Come on Bears and Griz, I know you guys have one more loss in you :)

everettgriz said:
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
Agree for everyone who thought Devon was kinda a flash in a pan player, they are dead wrong. He showed how much talent he has. I agree Selvig he stepped up big. I have no idea why they would risk playing Cherry in this game. No one on UNC played well with the exception of Devon. I do think there will be a rematch coming up in the next month or so.

One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards. Clearly you guys had a better game then us, but it will be a fun tournament no matter where it is.

I'm not even going to comment about the refs they didn't decide this game. They were as bad and as inconsistent as they usually are. So, no surprise there.

I agree, when Devon is on, he's a man amongst boys. Devon > anything Montana has.

Sorry. Qvale is the best player in the league.

Oh, and ever heard of Damian Lillard? He'll be around for 2 more seasons... :thumb:
 
I think it's hard to compare Devon to Quale. Totally different players. I think Devon is the best scorer in the league and Quale is just a good all around players. But when one is 7ft and other is a foot shorter it's hard to compare the two.
 
everettgriz said:
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
Agree for everyone who thought Devon was kinda a flash in a pan player, they are dead wrong. He showed how much talent he has. I agree Selvig he stepped up big. I have no idea why they would risk playing Cherry in this game. No one on UNC played well with the exception of Devon. I do think there will be a rematch coming up in the next month or so.

One question for the Grizz, which I think I would be concerned about. For a team that has so much size you sure give up a lot of Offensive boards. Clearly you guys had a better game then us, but it will be a fun tournament no matter where it is.

I'm not even going to comment about the refs they didn't decide this game. They were as bad and as inconsistent as they usually are. So, no surprise there.

I agree, when Devon is on, he's a man amongst boys. Devon > anything Montana has.

Sorry. Qvale is the best player in the league.

Qvale looked like the worst center in the league in Ogden........
Beitzel is by far the best player in the conference this season......
 
So will Will Cherry. :thumb:

And as I posted in the other thread, don't automatically insert NAU into that 4th spot. They still have to go to UNC, and that's a no-win game for weebs. You want UNC to win, but you can't have NAU lose because you lose the tie-break if MSU sneaks into the 4th spot. It's still an uphill battle for weebs, although not out of the question, certainly.

BQ will be POY. He does more to impact games than anyone else in the conference.
 
bearsden123 said:
I think it's hard to compare Devon to Quale. Totally different players. I think Devon is the best scorer in the league and Quale is just a good all around players. But when one is 7ft and other is a foot shorter it's hard to compare the two.

That's all Quale has going for him, he's just huge, he's bigger than anybody in the big sky. Put him against some athletic big men, and he probably gets torn the F up. On the other hand, Devon has proven he can handle the best of the best.
 
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
I think it's hard to compare Devon to Quale. Totally different players. I think Devon is the best scorer in the league and Quale is just a good all around players. But when one is 7ft and other is a foot shorter it's hard to compare the two.

That's all Quale has going for him, he's just huge, he's bigger than anybody in the big sky. Put him against some athletic big men, and he probably gets torn the F up. On the other hand, Devon has proven he can handle the best of the best.


REALLY? If you think all Qvale has going for him is size, you either clearly do not watch college basketball, or you're the absolute worst judge of talent I've ever encountered. I know a LOT of big guys who can't block shots. Hell, there have been a lot of them in this league alone. I realize you guys haven't been in the league long, but the league has existed for 60 years, and BQ has more blocks than anyone who's ever played.

Oh, and he's also 8th in the NATION in field goal percentage. I seriously doubt that happens without some athletic ability.

As for getting torn the "F" up while facing athletic big men, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the following big men are pretty "F'g" athletic. Then I'll give you BQ's numbers and their numbers against him.

Reeves Nelson, Tyler Honeycutt, UCLA: BQ finished with a double/double: 13 points, 10 boards, 2 blks. Nelson and Honeycutt were held to 5 points, six boards and 11 points, 7 boards, both well below their averages.

How about Devon Collier and Omari Johnson (watch any Oregon State games this year? DAMN athletic): Yeah, all BQ could manage against those guys was a measly 27 points, 18 rebounds and 5 blocks. OSU's big men combined for all of five points and 8 boards.

Last year's NCAA game against UNM: BQ went for 26 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. I'm gonna guess that a 3 seed had some pretty big, athletic players in Hardeman and Ramon Martinez.

Want more? I'm happy to provide plenty more situations in which BQ DOMINATED great players, but I suspect you get the point. Bottom line is, perhaps you should learn what the "F" you're talking about before spouting off that BQ can't handle the "best of the best".

Just sayin....
 
everettgriz said:
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
I think it's hard to compare Devon to Quale. Totally different players. I think Devon is the best scorer in the league and Quale is just a good all around players. But when one is 7ft and other is a foot shorter it's hard to compare the two.

That's all Quale has going for him, he's just huge, he's bigger than anybody in the big sky. Put him against some athletic big men, and he probably gets torn the F up. On the other hand, Devon has proven he can handle the best of the best.


REALLY? If you think all Qvale has going for him is size, you either clearly do not watch college basketball, or you're the absolute worst judge of talent I've ever encountered. I know a LOT of big guys who can't block shots. Hell, there have been a lot of them in this league alone. I realize you guys haven't been in the league long, but the league has existed for 60 years, and BQ has more blocks than anyone who's ever played.

Oh, and he's also 8th in the NATION in field goal percentage. I seriously doubt that happens without some athletic ability.

As for getting torn the "F" up while facing athletic big men, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the following big men are pretty "F'g" athletic. Then I'll give you BQ's numbers and their numbers against him.

Reeves Nelson, Tyler Honeycutt, UCLA: BQ finished with a double/double: 13 points, 10 boards, 2 blks. Nelson and Honeycutt were held to 5 points, six boards and 11 points, 7 boards, both well below their averages.

How about Devon Collier and Omari Johnson (watch any Oregon State games this year? DAMN athletic): Yeah, all BQ could manage against those guys was a measly 27 points, 18 rebounds and 5 blocks. OSU's big men combined for all of five points and 8 boards.

Last year's NCAA game against UNM: BQ went for 26 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. I'm gonna guess that a 3 seed had some pretty big, athletic players in Hardeman and Ramon Martinez.

Want more? I'm happy to provide plenty more situations in which BQ DOMINATED great players, but I suspect you get the point. Bottom line is, perhaps you should learn what the "F" you're talking about before spouting off that BQ can't handle the "best of the best".

Just sayin....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks for the laughs. Don't you have your own board to post on? If you don't like what's said on OUR board that's cool but this is OUR board, so we can post whatever we like. Are you a female? :rofl:
No offense, but please quit posting here, you're not wanted. If you have that big of a problem with what I say, then PM and we can handle it.

Oh and I just said that for the pure fact that I would get a rile out of you, and prove how sensitive you are.
 
everttgriz had a well reasoned response to a comment made about a Montana player. Nothing wrong with that. This board comes alive when opposing fans post on here and I actually learn about other teams so it's kind of nice.
 
Brian said:
everttgriz had a well reasoned response to a comment made about a Montana player. Nothing wrong with that. This board comes alive when opposing fans post on here and I actually learn about other teams so it's kind of nice.

Eh everett has added much to the board other that nit pickin and a whole lot of complaining. First it was the "Oh the UCLA win is bigger than anything on the planet" and then it was her expertise in sports journalism that decided to complain about the Denver post article. Then she expects us all to dick ride BQ as much as she does, even though this is a UNC board. If she thinks that BQ is the best player in the big sky thats fine, but does she really need to come on here and right a novel about it? I don't think so.

I don't mind other team's fan coming on here, but WSUupurple and eve :ohno:
 
Thanks Brian. I enjoy your board, save for a few posters who tend to denigrate discussions to a 3rd-grade level. It is certainly not my intentions to be a troll, so I appreciate your statements that my post didn't come across as such.

24, if you'd like to have a reasonable and intelligent discussion debating my points, I would welcome it. If you simply don't like the fact that I proved you wrong, I apologize.
 
Bearsfan24 said:
everettgriz said:
Bearsfan24 said:
bearsden123 said:
I think it's hard to compare Devon to Quale. Totally different players. I think Devon is the best scorer in the league and Quale is just a good all around players. But when one is 7ft and other is a foot shorter it's hard to compare the two.

That's all Quale has going for him, he's just huge, he's bigger than anybody in the big sky. Put him against some athletic big men, and he probably gets torn the F up. On the other hand, Devon has proven he can handle the best of the best.


REALLY? If you think all Qvale has going for him is size, you either clearly do not watch college basketball, or you're the absolute worst judge of talent I've ever encountered. I know a LOT of big guys who can't block shots. Hell, there have been a lot of them in this league alone. I realize you guys haven't been in the league long, but the league has existed for 60 years, and BQ has more blocks than anyone who's ever played.

Oh, and he's also 8th in the NATION in field goal percentage. I seriously doubt that happens without some athletic ability.

As for getting torn the "F" up while facing athletic big men, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the following big men are pretty "F'g" athletic. Then I'll give you BQ's numbers and their numbers against him.

Reeves Nelson, Tyler Honeycutt, UCLA: BQ finished with a double/double: 13 points, 10 boards, 2 blks. Nelson and Honeycutt were held to 5 points, six boards and 11 points, 7 boards, both well below their averages.

How about Devon Collier and Omari Johnson (watch any Oregon State games this year? DAMN athletic): Yeah, all BQ could manage against those guys was a measly 27 points, 18 rebounds and 5 blocks. OSU's big men combined for all of five points and 8 boards.

Last year's NCAA game against UNM: BQ went for 26 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. I'm gonna guess that a 3 seed had some pretty big, athletic players in Hardeman and Ramon Martinez.

Want more? I'm happy to provide plenty more situations in which BQ DOMINATED great players, but I suspect you get the point. Bottom line is, perhaps you should learn what the "F" you're talking about before spouting off that BQ can't handle the "best of the best".

Just sayin....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks for the laughs. Don't you have your own board to post on? If you don't like what's said on OUR board that's cool but this is OUR board, so we can post whatever we like. Are you a female? :rofl:
No offense, but please quit posting here, you're not wanted. If you have that big of a problem with what I say, then PM and we can handle it.

Oh and I just said that for the pure fact that I would get a rile out of you, and prove how sensitive you are.

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