Never too Early to Start - Bracketology

[ewueagle2010]

NDSU losing was just a matter of time, but I didn't expect them to get blown out. To only score 3 points is not just a fluke, IMO. Despite losing two games, EWU lost by 7 to a FBS school, and by 1 on the road without VA. I still believe the Eags beat NDSU this year if they play. I really don't know how seeding is going to work out this year with Coastal being 10-0. Yes, it's a weak conference, but 10-0 is 10-0. New Hampshire being from the CAA is going to boost their placement.

As things stand right now, my best guess assuming all top teams win out, EWU is looking at the 4 seed. New Hampshire 1, CC 2, NDSU 3 and JSU 5. I think EWU would get the nod for higher seed over JSU based on strength of schedule.

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

ewueagle2010, You realize the last game NDSU lost was in 2009, we defeated them here at EWU in overtime, then went and defeated Delaware State 20-19 in Frisco, TX.2010. Saw some of the Former Players yesterday in the Parking lot having fun. Nice seeing all of our former players, and parents. I to taught the refs screwed us, but I try not to dwell on it, it does no good, and I want to keep my "Blood Pressure Down" . At this age can't stand the problems I used to as a "Young Buck", that is what my mom called me many years ago growing in Saint Thomas, Virgin Islands. :nod: :nod: :nod: After a few butt whipping, every thing changed. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :nod: :nod: :nod: Vic Wallace

 

[dudeitsaid]

This bracket has us as the 5 seed.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. Four teams from the BSC, and four from the MVFC.

 

[clawman1]

This bracket has us as the 5 seed.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. Four teams from the BSC, and four from the MVFC.

The links are 2013. Looks like Cal Poly is being overlooked here. If they win out their D-1 record is equal to the MT teams and CP defeated both of those teams. ISU will be hurt by 2 of their overall wins are DII.
There is too much football to be played yet to speculate but it something to do on a bye week.
Go Eagles.

 

[marceagfan5]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

 

[MLEagle]

With 2 more weeks to go in the season I think there will be shuffling to still happen. I'm not sure who loses or what upsets will happen, but rest assured upsets will happen.

We just need to take care of PSU in a couple weeks and we will be a top 4 seed.

 

[dudeitsaid]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

How is that? Everything I've seen is that NAU wins the AQ if they win out. I haven't seen any qualifying statements to that. Where do you get that?

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

How is that? Everything I've seen is that NAU wins the AQ if they win out. I haven't seen any qualifying statements to that. Where do you get that?

He is saying that we will get the auto if we win out AND NAU loses a game. That part is accurate regardless of who wins ISU/MSU.

 

[Hambone]

I don't think the ISU-MSU game has any bearing on us since we beat both of them.

 

[kalm]

I don't think the ISU-MSU game has any bearing on us since we beat both of them.

I think MSU and NAU winning out helps us the most.

 

[marceagfan5]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

How is that? Everything I've seen is that NAU wins the AQ if they win out. I haven't seen any qualifying statements to that. Where do you get that?

Easy.

If we win out, NAU wins out, and either MSU or ISU wins out there will be a 3 way tie. None of the teams played all 3 so that's out.

If ISU wins out we all played unc and NAU lost so it goes to ISU/ewu where we won the head to head. We would also win on rankings in this scenario.

If MSU wins out there are no tiebreakers so it goes to the rankings and we will win.

Basically we want the winner of the ISU/MSU game to win out, if that happens and we win out I don't see a scenario where we don't get the auto bid.

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone...

 

[clawman1]

marc;
Rankings by who?

 

[marceagfan5]

marc;
Rankings by who?

Sagarin

We are fine if MSU or ISU wins out....

ISU beating poly really helped us

 

[dudeitsaid]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

How is that? Everything I've seen is that NAU wins the AQ if they win out. I haven't seen any qualifying statements to that. Where do you get that?

Easy.

If we win out, NAU wins out, and either MSU or ISU wins out there will be a 3 way tie. None of the teams played all 3 so that's out.

If ISU wins out we all played unc and NAU lost so it goes to ISU/ewu where we won the head to head. We would also win on rankings in this scenario.

If MSU wins out there are no tiebreakers so it goes to the rankings and we will win.

Basically we want the winner of the ISU/MSU game to win out, if that happens and we win out I don't see a scenario where we don't get the auto bid.

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone...

It's a good question. This is from the Big Sky Conference website: http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2014/11/10/FB_1110144003.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FOUR ONE-LOSS TEAMS: Cal Poly and Montana dropped from the ranks off one-loss Big Sky teams last week. Eastern Washington (6-1), Idaho State (5-1), Northern Arizona (5-1) and Montana State (5-1) enter the final two weeks of the regular season tied for first place in the loss column. At the end of Saturday, there will be no more than three as Idaho State plays at Montana State. Eastern Washington has a bye before closing out the regular season on Friday, Nov. 21, at Portland State. Montana State has a road game at Montana on Nov. 22. Idaho State plays at home against Weber State on Nov. 21. Northern Arizona is at North Dakota on Saturday and closes out the regular season at home against Southern Utah. Thanks to wins over Eastern Washington and Cal Poly, Northern Arizona is in position to earn the league's automatic bid to the FCS playoffs. Eleven conference champions earn automatic bids to the playoffs. The other 13 spots go to at-large teams and are determined by the FCS playoff committee. Idaho State has not advanced to the playoffs since 1983. Northern Arizona is seeking its first conference title since 2003. Eastern Washington is seeking its third straight playoff appearance, and the fifth in six seasons. Montana State last made the playoffs in 2012, as did Cal Poly. Montana made the playoffs in 2013. A record four Big Sky teams made the postseason in 2013.

The tie breakers are as follows: http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/25/FB_1025124525.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When two or more Conference members are tied in the final Conference standings, the tie shall be broken for purposes of determining the NCAA FCS automatic bid only, and shall be determined on the following basis:
1. Head-to-head Competition
2.Record against common CONFERENCE opponents in descending order
3. Record against common NON-CONFERENCE opponents
4. Sagarin Rating
5. Coin Flip

Example of No. 2: This applies to ALL head-to-head games, even those played as non-conference. (Example: Team A and Team B tie for the championship and played each other as a non-conference game. This game will be used as the tiebreaker).
Example of No. 3:
If conference teams A and B both scheduled the same non-conference opponent (FBS, FCS, Division II or NAIA), the results of that game could be used in a tiebreaker.

In a three way tie, would H2H eliminate ISU or MSU as either lost to EWU, and then EWU be eliminated by their loss to NAU? I don't know the answer to that, but was what I was assuming since it seems to indicate NAU is the one in the drivers seat for the AQ.

Can anyone confirm how the three way tie would be sorted out?

 

[marceagfan5]

I find it hard to believe that Jacksonville State and Coastal Carolina would be seeded so high. Yes, they are ranked high but they play in garbage conferences. On top of that, Jacksonville State is only playing 11 games this year, so EWU and Jacksonville State will have the same amount of FCS wins if they both win out.

Coastal appears to a good team, but they haven't played ANYONE yet. If they do get a high seed, I sure hope we are on their side of the bracket.

UNH doesn't look like they have real tough games left. NDSU may still drop another, Mo St on the road, YSU at home, could be difficult for them.

As far as EWU's seeding, we are a top 5 for sure if we beat PSU. Depending on how the committee sees JSU and CCU we could be a top 3. The committee also needs to look at the fact our one FCS loss came with Adams out and he is now back. Pretty sure we will win the big sky auto bid if we win out and:

NAU drops one of their last two OR the winner of the ISU/MSU game wins out.

Tough to deny EWU a top seed if we finish 10-2, with one FCS loss with our stud out. Beat 3-4 top 25 teams in route as well as SHSU who will most likely win the Southland.

How is that? Everything I've seen is that NAU wins the AQ if they win out. I haven't seen any qualifying statements to that. Where do you get that?

Easy.

If we win out, NAU wins out, and either MSU or ISU wins out there will be a 3 way tie. None of the teams played all 3 so that's out.

If ISU wins out we all played unc and NAU lost so it goes to ISU/ewu where we won the head to head. We would also win on rankings in this scenario.

If MSU wins out there are no tiebreakers so it goes to the rankings and we will win.

Basically we want the winner of the ISU/MSU game to win out, if that happens and we win out I don't see a scenario where we don't get the auto bid.

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone...

It's a good question. This is from the Big Sky Conference website: http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2014/11/10/FB_1110144003.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FOUR ONE-LOSS TEAMS: Cal Poly and Montana dropped from the ranks off one-loss Big Sky teams last week. Eastern Washington (6-1), Idaho State (5-1), Northern Arizona (5-1) and Montana State (5-1) enter the final two weeks of the regular season tied for first place in the loss column. At the end of Saturday, there will be no more than three as Idaho State plays at Montana State. Eastern Washington has a bye before closing out the regular season on Friday, Nov. 21, at Portland State. Montana State has a road game at Montana on Nov. 22. Idaho State plays at home against Weber State on Nov. 21. Northern Arizona is at North Dakota on Saturday and closes out the regular season at home against Southern Utah. Thanks to wins over Eastern Washington and Cal Poly, Northern Arizona is in position to earn the league's automatic bid to the FCS playoffs. Eleven conference champions earn automatic bids to the playoffs. The other 13 spots go to at-large teams and are determined by the FCS playoff committee. Idaho State has not advanced to the playoffs since 1983. Northern Arizona is seeking its first conference title since 2003. Eastern Washington is seeking its third straight playoff appearance, and the fifth in six seasons. Montana State last made the playoffs in 2012, as did Cal Poly. Montana made the playoffs in 2013. A record four Big Sky teams made the postseason in 2013.

The tie breakers are as follows: http://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/25/FB_1025124525.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When two or more Conference members are tied in the final Conference standings, the tie shall be broken for purposes of determining the NCAA FCS automatic bid only, and shall be determined on the following basis:
1. Head-to-head Competition
2.Record against common CONFERENCE opponents in descending order
3. Record against common NON-CONFERENCE opponents
4. Sagarin Rating
5. Coin Flip

Example of No. 2: This applies to ALL head-to-head games, even those played as non-conference. (Example: Team A and Team B tie for the championship and played each other as a non-conference game. This game will be used as the tiebreaker).
Example of No. 3:
If conference teams A and B both scheduled the same non-conference opponent (FBS, FCS, Division II or NAIA), the results of that game could be used in a tiebreaker.

In a three way tie, would H2H eliminate ISU or MSU as either lost to EWU, and then EWU be eliminated by their loss to NAU? I don't know the answer to that, but was what I was assuming since it seems to indicate NAU is the one in the drivers seat for the AQ.

Can anyone confirm how the three way tie would be sorted out?

Almost positive head to head would not apply in that scenario

 

[Hambone]

It was truly a crazy day in the Big Sky yesterday with Cal Poly, NAU, and ISU all losing and probably out of playoff consideration. How many teams do you all think the Big Sky will get into the playoffs now? 2? 3?

 

[ewueagle2010]

If Cats win, Big Sky gets 2 in. If Griz win, 3.

 

[LDopaPDX]

This bracket has us as the 5 seed.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. Four teams from the BSC, and four from the MVFC.

The links are 2013. Looks like Cal Poly is being overlooked here. If they win out their D-1 record is equal to the MT teams and CP defeated both of those teams. ISU will be hurt by 2 of their overall wins are DII.
There is too much football to be played yet to speculate but it something to do on a bye week.
Go Eagles.

Ouch. Let's hope this is dead wrong. Playing the winner of UNI and SE Louisiana is a vicious opening game. The way UNI is playing right now makes them the most dangerous first round team in the mix, IMO. I still suspect SE Louisiana gets a seed; they beat McNeese yesterday.

I don't know how the tiebreakers work in the Southland, but Sam Houston and SE Louisiana are still in the mix for that conference title. Regardless, I think SELA gets a seed and Sam Houston State gets a first round game (if they beat Central Arkansas next week and finish 8-4). They didn't play against each other.

 

[EWURanger]

This bracket has us as the 5 seed.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. Four teams from the BSC, and four from the MVFC.

The links are 2013. Looks like Cal Poly is being overlooked here. If they win out their D-1 record is equal to the MT teams and CP defeated both of those teams. ISU will be hurt by 2 of their overall wins are DII.
There is too much football to be played yet to speculate but it something to do on a bye week.
Go Eagles.

Ouch. Let's hope this is dead wrong. Playing the winner of UNI and SE Louisiana is a vicious opening game. The way UNI is playing right now makes them the most dangerous first round team in the mix, IMO. I still suspect SE Louisiana gets a seed; they beat McNeese yesterday.

I don't know how the tiebreakers work in the Southland, but Sam Houston and SE Louisiana are still in the mix for that conference title. Regardless, I think SELA gets a seed and Sam Houston State gets a first round game (if they beat Central Arkansas next week and finish 8-4). They didn't play against each other.

I think there's a chance UCA could take Sam Houston out. That would be ideal...they're not really a team I'd want to face in an opening round.

 

[sammamisheag]

Believe the committee will put EAGS in Top 4, Jax State #5. IMHO