Never too Early to Start - Bracketology

[marceagfan5]

Believe the committee will put EAGS in Top 4, Jax State #5. IMHO

I agree, they played 1 less game this year so we will finish with the same amount of fcs wins and ours are much better

 

[kalm]

Believe the committee will put EAGS in Top 4, Jax State #5. IMHO

I agree, they played 1 less game this year so we will finish with the same amount of fcs wins and ours are much better

I hope you guys are right. They're ranked ahead of us in most polls and in Massey and Massey SOS. They have 2 quality wins against Chattanooga and EKU, but a relatively weak OVC conference slate.

A CCU loss would do wonders as would ISUr.

 

[marceagfan5]

Believe the committee will put EAGS in Top 4, Jax State #5. IMHO

I agree, they played 1 less game this year so we will finish with the same amount of fcs wins and ours are much better

I hope you guys are right. They're ranked ahead of us in most polls and in Massey and Massey SOS. They have 2 quality wins against Chattanooga and EKU, but a relatively weak OVC conference slate.

A CCU loss would do wonders as would ISUr.

The top seeds right now should be:

#1 - NDSU
#2 - UNH
#3 - EWU
#4 - Ill St
#5 - Villanova

CCU and JSU should not be in the discussion for a top 5 seed, but they will both probably get one. Both of their conferences are complete garbage. JSU scheduling 11 games this year and playing in the OVC should drop them a seed or two. CCU will probably be a 2 or 3 seed, but no chance they are that good...

If all the top teams win out this weekend, I think we end up with the 4th seed. I think we jump JSU. Looking at the schedules, there could definitely be some top teams falling this weekend. Best thing for us would be a loss by UNH or NDSU, as we would jump both of them and probably host one of them if they were on our side of the bracket.

People need to consider that we have wins over 3 ranked teams right now, and ISU will probably be ranked if they win on Saturday. Our only FCS loss was with Adams out. The selection committee will look at all of this. The only resume better than ours right now is NDSU, although UNH is close.

I do think MSU could grab the 8 seed if they win in Missoula on Sat.

 

[clawman1]

Believe the committee will put EAGS in Top 4, Jax State #5. IMHO

I agree, they played 1 less game this year so we will finish with the same amount of fcs wins and ours are much better

I hope you guys are right. They're ranked ahead of us in most polls and in Massey and Massey SOS. They have 2 quality wins against Chattanooga and EKU, but a relatively weak OVC conference slate.

A CCU loss would do wonders as would ISUr.

The top seeds right now should be:

#1 - NDSU
#2 - UNH
#3 - EWU
#4 - Ill St
#5 - Villanova

CCU and JSU should not be in the discussion for a top 5 seed, but they will both probably get one. Both of their conferences are complete garbage. JSU scheduling 11 games this year and playing in the OVC should drop them a seed or two. CCU will probably be a 2 or 3 seed, but no chance they are that good...

If all the top teams win out this weekend, I think we end up with the 4th seed. I think we jump JSU. Looking at the schedules, there could definitely be some top teams falling this weekend. Best thing for us would be a loss by UNH or NDSU, as we would jump both of them and probably host one of them if they were on our side of the bracket.

People need to consider that we have wins over 3 ranked teams right now, and ISU will probably be ranked if they win on Saturday. Our only FCS loss was with Adams out. The selection committee will look at all of this. The only resume better than ours right now is NDSU, although UNH is close.

I do think MSU could grab the 8 seed if they win in Missoula on Sat.

By "people" I hope you mean committee, it does not matter what everyone else understands only what the committee understands.

 

[kalm]

Here's what I posted over on AGS in the Seed thread:
1) NDSU

Quality wins: Iowa State, Montana, SIU, Indiana State, SDSU
Loss: UNI

2) UNH

Quality wins: Richmond, W&M, Delaware
Loss: Toledo

3) EWU
Quality wins: SHSU, Montana State, Idaho State, Montana
Losses: Washington, NAU

4) JSU
Quality wins: Chattanooga, EKU
Loss: Michigan State

5) Illinois State
Quality wins: SDSU, Indiana State, YSU
Loss: UNI

6) CCU
Quality wins: SCSU, Presby, CSU, NCA&T
Loss: 0

7) Nova
Quality wins: JMU, W&M, Albany, Fordham.
Losses: Syracuse, Richmond

8) Indiana State
Quality wins: Ball State, Liberty, UNI, YSU
Losses: Indiana, NDSU, Illinois State, SDSU

I based quality wins on 6-5 records but that's being VERY generous when it comes to CCU. Looking at the schedules of the 4 "quality" teams they beat, you could make a case that they don't really have any quality wins.

I put EWU at 3 because 1) the Washington loss gets tossed out comparing us to ISU who didn't play an FBS. 2) More quality wins than JSU against stronger competition (I realize EIU got the #2 last year but they also beat San Diego State), 3) The one FCS loss we had was by one point on the road to a decent team without Vernon Adams. As mentioned in last week's FCS Wedge, injuries are taken into consideration. 4) I'm a homer but I can see justifications for rearranging 2-5.

 

[clawman1]

I've not understood why CCU was ranked so high for so long, I guess 0 losses will do that regardless of the foe. The Big South is very weak and they have not played a contender out of conference. This week against Liberty is their toughest game and they are 7-4.

 

[kalm]

I've not understood why CCU was ranked so high for so long, I guess 0 losses will do that regardless of the foe. The Big South is very weak and they have not played a contender out of conference. This week against Liberty is their toughest game and they are 7-4.

The Big South is benefitting from a diminished SoCon and I think CCU is still benefitting a bit from their win at Missoula last year. But I agree, their schedule is very weak. Liberty, on the other hand played a solid schedule and might give the Chants some fits Saturday. Hopefully so.

 

[kalm]

Here's what I posted over on AGS in the Seed thread:
1) NDSU

Quality wins: Iowa State, Montana, SIU, Indiana State, SDSU
Loss: UNI

2) UNH

Quality wins: Richmond, W&M, Delaware
Loss: Toledo

3) EWU
Quality wins: SHSU, Montana State, Idaho State, Montana
Losses: Washington, NAU

4) JSU
Quality wins: Chattanooga, EKU
Loss: Michigan State

5) Illinois State
Quality wins: SDSU, Indiana State, YSU
Loss: UNI

6) CCU
Quality wins: SCSU, Presby, CSU, NCA&T
Loss: 0

7) Nova
Quality wins: JMU, W&M, Albany, Fordham.
Losses: Syracuse, Richmond

8) Indiana State
Quality wins: Ball State, Liberty, UNI, YSU
Losses: Indiana, NDSU, Illinois State, SDSU

I based quality wins on 6-5 records but that's being VERY generous when it comes to CCU. Looking at the schedules of the 4 "quality" teams they beat, you could make a case that they don't really have any quality wins.

I put EWU at 3 because 1) the Washington loss gets tossed out comparing us to ISU who didn't play an FBS. 2) More quality wins than JSU against stronger competition (I realize EIU got the #2 last year but they also beat San Diego State), 3) The one FCS loss we had was by one point on the road to a decent team without Vernon Adams. As mentioned in last week's FCS Wedge, injuries are taken into consideration. 4) I'm a homer but I can see justifications for rearranging 2-5.

I initially missed Nova's wins over Fordham and Albany. This might move them up.

I honestly think that IF the committee looks at things objectively, #'s 2-7 are a total crapshoot. UNH appears to have the inside track at the two, but UD will lose to Nova this weekend and Richmond plays at W&M. They will more than likely have one win against a playoff or even ranked team.

 

[marceagfan5]

Here's what I posted over on AGS in the Seed thread:
1) NDSU

Quality wins: Iowa State, Montana, SIU, Indiana State, SDSU
Loss: UNI

2) UNH

Quality wins: Richmond, W&M, Delaware
Loss: Toledo

3) EWU
Quality wins: SHSU, Montana State, Idaho State, Montana
Losses: Washington, NAU

4) JSU
Quality wins: Chattanooga, EKU
Loss: Michigan State

5) Illinois State
Quality wins: SDSU, Indiana State, YSU
Loss: UNI

6) CCU
Quality wins: SCSU, Presby, CSU, NCA&T
Loss: 0

7) Nova
Quality wins: JMU, W&M, Albany, Fordham.
Losses: Syracuse, Richmond

8) Indiana State
Quality wins: Ball State, Liberty, UNI, YSU
Losses: Indiana, NDSU, Illinois State, SDSU

I based quality wins on 6-5 records but that's being VERY generous when it comes to CCU. Looking at the schedules of the 4 "quality" teams they beat, you could make a case that they don't really have any quality wins.

I put EWU at 3 because 1) the Washington loss gets tossed out comparing us to ISU who didn't play an FBS. 2) More quality wins than JSU against stronger competition (I realize EIU got the #2 last year but they also beat San Diego State), 3) The one FCS loss we had was by one point on the road to a decent team without Vernon Adams. As mentioned in last week's FCS Wedge, injuries are taken into consideration. 4) I'm a homer but I can see justifications for rearranging 2-5.

Wow, well done.

I don't think there is a clear favorite this year. NDSU because they are the 3 time champ, but they aren't the same team this year. 2-7 seeds could be anywhere on the board. We very well could be a 6 seed and host throughout because there really is no dominant team this year. If the committee really looks at our record, who we beat, and the fact we lost to NAU without Adams, we should be the #3 seed if UNH and NDSU win on Saturday.

 

[LDopaPDX]

I strongly suspect Coastal Carolina is a top 3 seed if they win this weekend. They may not have any great wins, but never losing is a feat regardless.

New Hampshire will get some discussion for the 1 seed, but I can't reconcile their 11 game schedule. How do teams in the East fail to fill their schedule? Our closest OOC team is 1,000 miles away, and yet we manage to fill up our schedule every year?

 

[marceagfan5]

Perfect situation for us would be:

#1 - UNH
#2 - NDSU
#3 - CCU
#4 - EWU
#5 - JSU

We get two home games, and probably at UNH in the semis. I prefer UNH than NDSU in the semi's. #8 seed could be MSU who could beat UNH, ya never know...

 

[LDopaPDX]

Perfect situation for us would be:

#1 - UNH
#2 - NDSU
#3 - CCU
#4 - EWU
#5 - JSU

We get two home games, and probably at UNH in the semis. I prefer UNH than NDSU in the semi's. #8 seed could be MSU who could beat UNH, ya never know...

This would be alright. I'm not super excited about Jax State; those guys are a strong outfit.

I'd prefer North Dakota State at #1, New Hampshire 2, Eastern 3... but I don't see that as likely unless Coastal loses this weekend.

 

[marceagfan5]

Perfect situation for us would be:

#1 - UNH
#2 - NDSU
#3 - CCU
#4 - EWU
#5 - JSU

We get two home games, and probably at UNH in the semis. I prefer UNH than NDSU in the semi's. #8 seed could be MSU who could beat UNH, ya never know...

This would be alright. I'm not super excited about Jax State; those guys are a strong outfit.

I'd prefer North Dakota State at #1, New Hampshire 2, Eastern 3... but I don't see that as likely unless Coastal loses this weekend.

When UNH loses on Saturday, maybe it will go 1 - NDSU 2 - CCU 3 - EWU. One can hope...

 

[LDopaPDX]

If we get a route away from NDSU in Fargo, that'd be great. Of the likely high seeds, them on the road is the worst case. Honestly, aside from the travel, UNH, Coastal, and Jax State aren't nearly as concerning. I'd be more worried about Northern Iowa, Illinois State, or a team that presents a tough matchup like SELA.

 

[clawman1]

CCU has possibly their toughest game of the year in 7-4 Liberty.

 

[luckyintheorder]

CCU is for real. Their Coach is a WINNER and it is reflected throughout the organization. Would certainly be a shootout in a head to head. CCU takes care of business this weekend. Would love a higher the 4th seed, but not very likely. Maine has had UNH's number lately though....

That said, attitude needs to be, will take on NDSU anywhere, anytime. No ducking them as we likely get the 4th seed with NAU looking like a "bad" loss. Semi's in ND. The dome plays well to the passing game IMO.

 

[ewueagle2010]

Lucky, I'm with you about NDSU! I say bring em on, any place, any week. Yes, they're good, so are we! If we wanna rise to the top again, we gotta knock them off. I personally LOVE, the idea of going into the Fargo Dumper and beating them! This Eagle team has been into several PAC 12 stadiums, WA Griz, and other places where winning is tough, and they've gotten wins. Our attitude should not be to try and avoid them, it needs to be "bring it!"

Sure, I'm not going to complain about 3 home games, but the idea of beating NDSU is fargo, is almost sweeter!

Go Eags!! 1-0 today!

 

[clawman1]

Do you think the committee has the end in mind when seeding teams? What I mean is, if it would it be desirable to have two particular teams in the final in Frisco would the committee seed those teams in opposite sides of the bracket so as to allow that to happen? That is assuming there are no huge surprises this weekend.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Do you think the committee has the end in mind when seeding teams? What I mean is, if it would it be desirable to have two particular teams in the final in Frisco would the committee seed those teams in opposite sides of the bracket so as to allow that to happen? That is assuming there are no huge surprises this weekend.

NDSU on one side and who would they prefer on the other? CCU, another MVC team, CAA team or EWU? Who sells more tickets.

Speaking of which, couldn't buy two tickets with adjacent seating in Frisco stadium this morning. Yes, thinking ahead but already behind.

 

[EWU98]

You will be able to get tickets through the Alumni association and athletic department when the time comes . . .oh and it will come!