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Oregon State

Don't confuse Idaho with ANYONE in the PAC-12.

OSU is a solid bowl team EXCEPT at QB. They don't have a starter yet so both Katz and Manion will get snaps. Here's hoping the defense can keep the game close and EWU can steal the game in the 4th.

#1 goal is leave Corvallis without injuries to key players.

Vegas has the spread at 27 for a reason.

This is a very good D1 team that will be in a another bowl game this year.
 
Many sites also have us covering that 27 point spread. Our guys won't be intimidated by playing a Pac-12 team.

Yes, OSU should beat us by 2-3 TD's, but I wouldn't read too much into Vegas lines. I wonder what the spread was when we played UW in 2011? How about when Sac beat Oregon State in 2011? At the end of the day none of the hype matters and we have the talent and coaching to compete with the Beavers and I think we will do just that.
 
Just saw that the tickets for the pre-game tailgate and individual game tickets are sold out for this game! Glad to see the fans traveling to support the boys.
 
EWURanger said:
Many sites also have us covering that 27 point spread. Our guys won't be intimidated by playing a Pac-12 team.
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27 point spread?? I'd like to put a couple of Benjies on that line. Where could I do that?
 
EdubU10 said:
Just saw that the tickets for the pre-game tailgate and individual game tickets are sold out for this game! Glad to see the fans traveling to support the boys.
Many of us bought tickets straight from Beaver land so even more will be there. We are having our own Tailgate of 12, so see you all in Corvalis.
 
So now that OSU has named their starter as "Mannion, the junior from Pleasanton, Calif., earned the nod after displaying improved accuracy and decision making throughout spring and fall practices."
How does that affect their game plan?
I would guess they will keep the offense as simple as possible so he has less decisions to make and keep the passing game short, especially early in the game for him to make some completions and gain confidence.
What do you think? And, can the Eagles take advantage of that game plan?
 
clawman said:
So now that OSU has named their starter as "Mannion, the junior from Pleasanton, Calif., earned the nod after displaying improved accuracy and decision making throughout spring and fall practices."
How does that affect their game plan?
I would guess they will keep the offense as simple as possible so he has less decisions to make and keep the passing game short, especially early in the game for him to make some completions and gain confidence.
What do you think? And, can the Eagles take advantage of that game plan?

Hey Gents, I may be a PSU alumni but always been intrigued by EWU and the football program up there. I do have some insight into Oregon State.

Mannion is actually a 3rd year starter. He started 10 games in 2011 as a freshman, 8 games (due to injury) in 2012 as a sophomore. In 2012, 64.7% completion in 309 attempts, 15 TD, 13 INT, 2446 yds.

Vaz (the backup) started 5 games in 2012. He has a 59% completion in 185 attempts, 11 TD, 3 INT, 1480 yds. 5th year senior that knows the playbook backwards and forwards. Whether his head is still in it after being named the backup for 2013 is up for debate.

As a whole, OSU's passing game with both Mannion and Vaz starting at different times in 2012, was 2nd in the Pac-12.

There's no way OSU keeps the offense vanilla, even for the 1st game of 2013. They return 4 of 5 starting offensive lineman, and 8 of 11 on offense overall. Woods and Ward both return at RB, Anderson at FB. Cooks, who will be their primary WR in 2013, caught 67 balls for 1151 yds and 5 TD's in 2012. He also reportedly runs a 4.25 second 40 yd dash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VF5SyM6QfY. Cummings who will essentially be replacing Wheaton, had extensive playing time in 2012 but didn't catch many balls due to the big targets in Wheaton and Cooks. OSU also returns 6-7/8 TE Connor Hamlett who is a HUGE target and sneaks off of blocks very well.

First offensive series, possibly even the first play, expect a play-action pass deep ball. If completed, will likely make for a very long day for the Eagles D.

Defensively, Oregon State returns a pair of what will be 3 year starters at DE. Crichton, an all Pac-12 DE in 2012, is currently ranked 3rd best DE for the 2015 NFL draft class (he's only a junior) and could possibly move into the 1st round, had 9 sacks with 17.5 TFL in 2012. Reynolds is also a 3rd year starter at corner and is projected as the 12th best CB in the 2014 NFL Draft (5th round),16 pass breakups in 2012 was 2nd in the Pac-12, also had 3 INT's. The other corner spot will be filled by either Sean Martin who played a lot in 2012 when OSU went to the nickel package, or highly touted 4-star JC transfer Steven Nelson. Zimmerman and Murphy both return, at SS and FS respectively. OSU rotates in a TON of DT's, so even though no returning starters there, expect to see a lot of fresh big bodies including 2 JC transfers both over 300 lbs.

The two stars, Cooks and Reynolds, were both overshadowed by breakout performances by Wheaton and Poyer in 2012. Cooks still had over 1100 yards receiving and Reynolds still finished 2nd in the conference in pass breakups and is considered a lock-down corner.

OSU plays an in your face, physical, brand of football. They will pound the ball until you bring safeties in to help, then go play-action over the top to the WR's. They counter LB blitzes with TE screens over the middle. Just when you think you know what's coming, they'll tweak it ever so slightly to change the play.

Don't let this post make you think they're a juggernaut or unbeatable, but they will definitely compete in the PAC-12 and Top-25 nationally in 2013.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks for the insight, PSU. With our deep and talented secondary, I hope we can get an overconfident OSU team and Mannion to throw some picks and turn the ball over. It will also be interesting to see how much read option and pistol we use, and how effective it will be against their talented DEs.
 
Nice summation PSU dude. OSU loves to throw deep and with a decent running game the play action will be very difficult to stop regardless of our experience in the secondary (we do tend to overpursue at LB which can expose the safeties). I think OSU is smarting from bowl loss and will be out to make a statement. Not sure OSU can stop our offense the whole game if O line does a reasonable job. This OSU team will be much faster off the ball than Idaho or WSU last year. Just one man's opinion.

Some OSU stats from their own website:

http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209227839

SCORING DEFENSE: Oregon State finished second in the Pac-12 for scoring defense last season, allowing 20.6 points. The 268 total points allowed is just one more than the OSU record for a 13-game season (2002).

GAUDY NUMBERS IN ‘12: Oregon State’s offensive machine eclipsed the 500-yard mark four times last year. The Beavers hit 683 yards against Nicholls State (ranks 2nd all-time), 613 yards in a win at Arizona (7th), 559 yards vs. Cal (tied for 17th) and 501 yards against UCLA. The following is a closer look at where some of the numbers shaped up:
2012 (OSU mark) Record
Points 423 (2nd in OSU history) 433 (2003)
Passing Yards* 3,992 (2nd) 4,265 (2003)
Passing TDs 27 (2nd) 29 (2004)
Pass 1st Downs 180 (1st)
Touchdowns 54 (1st)
Total Offense* 5,610 yards (2nd) 6,019 (2003)
Pts Allowed* 268 (2nd) 267 (2002)
*13-game season
 
Not sure if anyone posted this but someone needs to head to Vegas . . .-27 is the spread. :twocents:
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Son lives in Vegas...just got the 27 pts on a rather large wager. If you don't see me on here after the game you know what happened.
 
08PSUalum said:
clawman said:
So now that OSU has named their starter as "Mannion, the junior from Pleasanton, Calif., earned the nod after displaying improved accuracy and decision making throughout spring and fall practices."
How does that affect their game plan?
I would guess they will keep the offense as simple as possible so he has less decisions to make and keep the passing game short, especially early in the game for him to make some completions and gain confidence.
What do you think? And, can the Eagles take advantage of that game plan?

Hey Gents, I may be a PSU alumni but always been intrigued by EWU and the football program up there. I do have some insight into Oregon State.

Mannion is actually a 3rd year starter. He started 10 games in 2011 as a freshman, 8 games (due to injury) in 2012 as a sophomore. In 2012, 64.7% completion in 309 attempts, 15 TD, 13 INT, 2446 yds.

Vaz (the backup) started 5 games in 2012. He has a 59% completion in 185 attempts, 11 TD, 3 INT, 1480 yds. 5th year senior that knows the playbook backwards and forwards. Whether his head is still in it after being named the backup for 2013 is up for debate.

As a whole, OSU's passing game with both Mannion and Vaz starting at different times in 2012, was 2nd in the Pac-12.

There's no way OSU keeps the offense vanilla, even for the 1st game of 2013. They return 4 of 5 starting offensive lineman, and 8 of 11 on offense overall. Woods and Ward both return at RB, Anderson at FB. Cooks, who will be their primary WR in 2013, caught 67 balls for 1151 yds and 5 TD's in 2012. He also reportedly runs a 4.25 second 40 yd dash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VF5SyM6QfY. Cummings who will essentially be replacing Wheaton, had extensive playing time in 2012 but didn't catch many balls due to the big targets in Wheaton and Cooks. OSU also returns 6-7/8 TE Connor Hamlett who is a HUGE target and sneaks off of blocks very well.

First offensive series, possibly even the first play, expect a play-action pass deep ball. If completed, will likely make for a very long day for the Eagles D.

Defensively, Oregon State returns a pair of what will be 3 year starters at DE. Crichton, an all Pac-12 DE in 2012, is currently ranked 3rd best DE for the 2015 NFL draft class (he's only a junior) and could possibly move into the 1st round, had 9 sacks with 17.5 TFL in 2012. Reynolds is also a 3rd year starter at corner and is projected as the 12th best CB in the 2014 NFL Draft (5th round),16 pass breakups in 2012 was 2nd in the Pac-12, also had 3 INT's. The other corner spot will be filled by either Sean Martin who played a lot in 2012 when OSU went to the nickel package, or highly touted 4-star JC transfer Steven Nelson. Zimmerman and Murphy both return, at SS and FS respectively. OSU rotates in a TON of DT's, so even though no returning starters there, expect to see a lot of fresh big bodies including 2 JC transfers both over 300 lbs.

The two stars, Cooks and Reynolds, were both overshadowed by breakout performances by Wheaton and Poyer in 2012. Cooks still had over 1100 yards receiving and Reynolds still finished 2nd in the conference in pass breakups and is considered a lock-down corner.

OSU plays an in your face, physical, brand of football. They will pound the ball until you bring safeties in to help, then go play-action over the top to the WR's. They counter LB blitzes with TE screens over the middle. Just when you think you know what's coming, they'll tweak it ever so slightly to change the play.

Don't let this post make you think they're a juggernaut or unbeatable, but they will definitely compete in the PAC-12 and Top-25 nationally in 2013.

Hope this helps.
Well Hell, we just may as well stay home.
 
OSU plays an in your face, physical, brand of football. They will pound the ball until you bring safeties in to help, then go play-action over the top to the WR's. They counter LB blitzes with TE screens over the middle. Just when you think you know what's coming, they'll tweak it ever so slightly to change the play.

I'd agree with everything in that long post, including this. However, Oregon State had enormous problems when Texas rushed both the LB and DE from the outside. They never accounted for it all game long and wound up giving up a boatload of sacks, and it was made worse by incompetent QB reads.

I expect them to correct this error, and they certainly have enough talent to make life extremely difficult for Eastern. As I posted earlier, the scariest part of this game isn't the talent or scholarship difference... it's that Oregon State is just a bad style matchup for Eastern based on what our defensive weaknesses have historically looked like. I think our DBs will be fine in this game, I worry terribly about our ability to stop the run, especially if OSU is downright committed to making it work.
 
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
Obzerver said:
Son lives in Vegas...just got the 27 pts on a rather large wager. If you don't see me on here after the game you know what happened.
Drinks are on you after the game then. :nod: :thumb:

Thanks to Dopa I just put some money on OSU now!
 
Obzerver said:
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
Obzerver said:
Son lives in Vegas...just got the 27 pts on a rather large wager. If you don't see me on here after the game you know what happened.
Drinks are on you after the game then. :nod: :thumb:

Thanks to Dopa I just put some money on OSU now!

YOU BET AGAINST US????? :x :oops: :evil: :twisted:
 
I think our D will be fine (if we can limit their rushing), it will be interesting to see how we do on O tomorrow. Tomorrow can't come soon enough...
 

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