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Playoff Chances
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SWeberCat02
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Regardless of whether or not another Big Sky team makes it to the playoffs, a team from the east will have to travel to Missoula in the first round, as teams from the same conference cannot play in the first round and no other teams from the west will be in the playoffs (unless you count teams from Texas as being in the west). And I don't think the NCAA foots the bill for any team to travel, I believe that's left up to the individual schools.whereamI said:
SWeberCat02
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I highly doubt that anybody from the NCAA would be making any promises at this point.whereamI said:
weberwildcat
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SWeberCat02 said:
I rmmeber last yr they said the ncaa pays for all the playoff travel, so that is why its so important to regionalize as well have the games at stadiums that can generate the most $$.
SWeberCat02
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Maybe, but a 9-2 Liberty team would have less to bitch about if an 8-3 EWU team gets in over them, than if a 7-4 WSU team gets in over them. But regardless, Weber just needs to go out a win Saturday. Unfortunately, everything else is out of their hands.whereamI said:
SWeberCat02
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I stand corrected. But I know for certain that teams from the same conference cannot play in the first round.catcat said:
Old Skool Cat
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whereamI said:
Wow - do you follow college football at all? Pretty bold statement to make considering we are 7-3 overall, 5-2 in the conference, are one win away from making the playoffs, and own a win against your own Wildcats in Ogden no less. I don't like talking smack, nor do I prefer to go on other teams' fansites and blow smoke, but sorry, my head just explodes when I see ignorant posts like that.
Oh, by the way, since 2001, the Bobcats are only one of 11 FCS teams to post consecutive winning seasons. And only 6 of those are guaranteed winning seasons after this year. So yeah, we're just plain average. :roll:
weberwildcat
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MSU has beat UM 2 of the last 3 in Bozeman.
2009:
2007: L
2005: W
2003: W
2009:
2007: L
2005: W
2003: W
SWeberCat02
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Not all of us are so ignorant. A Weber fan should be the last fan to call MSU "just plain average at best", seeing that they beat Weber this year. I would call MSU is a good, but not great, team. And I am torn because I would love to see MSU beat the snot out of UM this weekend, but if that were to happen then Weber is most definitely out of the playoffs.Old Skool Cat said:
Old Skool Cat
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SWeberCat02 said:
Good post. Yeah, I don't consider us to be a great team, but I would venture to say we are good. We have had to fight like hell to get where we are this season and I like our chances this weekend against our rivals. That said, if we don't get the job done this weekend, I think both WSU and EWU could make some noise in the playoffs if either gets in.
AVERAGE AT BEST!. Weber played terribly that game. Bobcats couldn't beat NAU at home, almost lost to Dixie college and will get humbled by the grizz this weekend. Average is being generous. Crappy offense with a crappy quarterback, crappy running back, average defense. The only thing ignorant about my earlier post is that I gave the Bobcats too much credit.
SWeberCat02
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A good summary of Weber's playoff chances from CSN:
"Weber State (6-4)
Postseason: A win over 4-6 Cal Poly would barely put them into playoff eligibility with seven, but a brutal schedule with two oh-so-close FBS losses (Colorado State and Wyoming) may give them some leniency. Most likely they need both Eastern Washington and Montana State to lose - and maybe even some more help on top of that - to make the field, but stranger things have happened."
"Weber State (6-4)
Postseason: A win over 4-6 Cal Poly would barely put them into playoff eligibility with seven, but a brutal schedule with two oh-so-close FBS losses (Colorado State and Wyoming) may give them some leniency. Most likely they need both Eastern Washington and Montana State to lose - and maybe even some more help on top of that - to make the field, but stranger things have happened."
talhadfoursteals
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That game against MSU really stings. To many TO's, bad play calling, and an over confident attitude by the team. I've got to hand it to the Bobcats, they found a way to win, Weber definitely had their chances, but just couldn't make the plays. In all reality, without the mistakes, Weber should have won that game by three TD's, but DIDN"T. No matter, Weber still has a chance to make the playoffs, but they have to earn it against a pretty good Cal Poly team. Granted, Cal Poly's record isn't a thing of beauty, but they have adequate weapons, and would love to spoil the Cats chances by exacting a little revenge for last years shocker in the playoffs.
On another note, eastern hasn't won their 7 DI game. Their win over Western or was it Souther Oregon doesn't count, DII. They have to win on Sat as much as MSU and Weber have to win. I for one would rather, if Weber can't go, have a team that beat us represent the Sky rather than one that Weber handily defeated. I am torn though, I really want to see Weber go to the playoffs, but I love seeing UM lose. So, I'll just say this GOOOOO LUMBERJACKS!!
On another note, eastern hasn't won their 7 DI game. Their win over Western or was it Souther Oregon doesn't count, DII. They have to win on Sat as much as MSU and Weber have to win. I for one would rather, if Weber can't go, have a team that beat us represent the Sky rather than one that Weber handily defeated. I am torn though, I really want to see Weber go to the playoffs, but I love seeing UM lose. So, I'll just say this GOOOOO LUMBERJACKS!!
Old Skool Cat
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whereamI said:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. You'd be great at marbles, though. Sorry to get your panties in a bind. I'm done talking about it; maybe you ought to move on as well.
N.OgdenCat said:
Agreed go LUMBERJACKS! Eastern is worthless. N.OgdenCat is right, the eagles don't have 7 DI wins. Their 7th would have to happen this weekend against NAU, which it wont. Somebody has got to tell them that DII wins dont count. No matter, I'm all for NAU, in any case if Weber wins they win the head to head. Would the NCAA really take a team that finished lower in the conference standings?
native
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Old Skool Cat said:
Welcome, OSCat!
My head did not explode, but I would never call any team that could best my mighty Wildcats mediocre!
I would much rather concentrate on the FACT that the Big Sky Conference has had FIVE teams in the Gridiron Power Index for most of the past several weeks, including this week:
5. Montana (3.88)
11. E Washington (12.88)
14. Weber St (15.50)
20. Montana St (19.63)
23. N Arizona (23.38)
I would only add that these top five teams from the Big Sky could compete in any FCS conference this year and would absolutely clean up in most conferences.
native
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SWeberCat02 said:
Probably the most accurate assessment I have yet seen. Unfortunately, despite the convincing 31-13 head-to-head win over the Eagles in Cheney, our more recent 10-31 beat down in Missoula following a much closer 34-41 effort by the Eagles at UM elevated EWU slightly ahead of Weber in most of the polls and computer rankings, favoring Eastern Washington's chances over Weber's for that Big Sky at-large bid.
Assuming Montana State loses, which is not a sure thing, our best shot for that last at-large bid is to smash Cal Poly and hope that Northern Arizona prevails over the Eagles in Flagstaff. Smashing the Lumberjacks this past weekend was a good start!
Even the Liberty Flame are ahead of Weber in some polls, and could take that last bid instead of the Wildcats, but I just cannot see the NCAA limiting the second-most-powerful FCS conference to only one post season participant.
SWeberCat02
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I think it plays out like this:
If Montana St wins, they are the last team in.
If Montana St loses and Eastern Washington wins, Eastern is the last team in.
If Montana St and Eastern Washington lose and Weber wins, Weber OR Liberty (assuming Liberty wins) is the last team in. I don't know who the committee would select out of Weber and Liberty. Both teams would have good arguments. It's basically a coin flip.
If Montana St wins, they are the last team in.
If Montana St loses and Eastern Washington wins, Eastern is the last team in.
If Montana St and Eastern Washington lose and Weber wins, Weber OR Liberty (assuming Liberty wins) is the last team in. I don't know who the committee would select out of Weber and Liberty. Both teams would have good arguments. It's basically a coin flip.
Who cares if Eastern looked better in Missoula...I'm not trying to argue Native, it just pisses me off that Eastern, a team we handily defeated is going to be in the playoffs. They also have two Big Sky loses, if Weber wins and MSU loses they can't finish above us in the conference standings and they got killed in their FBS game, while Weber was in both of theirs and should have won one. Just because they have a DII win over lowly whatever Oregon doesn't mean they should get in. In my eyes they are 6-3 while Weber is 6-4. Thats how the NCAA should look at them too.