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[Webergrad02]

On the positive side, I am seeing the results of a lot of player development. Hajek, Bolomboy, and Hill have improved dramatically. By committee, they have more than replaced Tresnak. We are still a little hit and miss on replacing Berry. We need to keep in mind that Senglin and Gittens are both just 2nd year guys. We can probably expect more inconsistency this season from them.

It would be cool if we looked at other teams results before we limit what we can do as a team. We joked on this forum that there was no way Stew could bring his team together due to all the lost talent and the famous chemistry issues. Not only have they rebuilded their program they're doing it and winning at the same time. look at the number of Freshman and JUCO's they brought in to their program! Don't they need time to gel? The guys need time to play together! Getting tired of all the excuses! We need to raise the bar and quit being satisfied with getting better after out of conference play. The program shouldn't be happy with less than two wins this weekend!

Shouldn't you be in-class raising the bar on your studies right now youngguns? It is hard to say who we will be playing this weekend besides Illinois State. I don't think you can say it is two wins or bust. I am not sure when the team is leaving, but it is going to take them a while to get to St Thomas. When I had the trip booked, I was leaving SLC at 10 PM Thursday flying to JFK and arriving at 5:00 AM Eastern Friday. Then flying from JFK to Puerto Rico, then from Puerto Rico to St Thomas arriving at 2 pm local time. I know the teams travel will be better but it still may take a toll on them in that first game. There are just way too many factors to say two wins or bust. The teams traveling from the East will likely have a shorter transition into St. Thomas.

 

[Itiger]

On the positive side, I am seeing the results of a lot of player development. Hajek, Bolomboy, and Hill have improved dramatically. By committee, they have more than replaced Tresnak. We are still a little hit and miss on replacing Berry. We need to keep in mind that Senglin and Gittens are both just 2nd year guys. We can probably expect more inconsistency this season from them.

It would be cool if we looked at other teams results before we limit what we can do as a team. We joked on this forum that there was no way Stew could bring his team together due to all the lost talent and the famous chemistry issues. Not only have they rebuilded their program they're doing it and winning at the same time. look at the number of Freshman and JUCO's they brought in to their program! Don't they need time to gel? The guys need time to play together! Getting tired of all the excuses! We need to raise the bar and quit being satisfied with getting better after out of conference play. The program shouldn't be happy with less than two wins this weekend!

Shouldn't you be in-class raising the bar on your studies right now youngguns? It is hard to say who we will be playing this weekend besides Illinois State. I don't think you can say it is two wins or bust. I am not sure when the team is leaving, but it is going to take them a while to get to St Thomas. When I had the trip booked, I was leaving SLC at 10 PM Thursday flying to JFK and arriving at 5:00 AM Eastern Friday. Then flying from JFK to Puerto Rico, then from Puerto Rico to St Thomas arriving at 2 pm local time. I know the teams travel will be better but it still may take a toll on them in that first game. There are just way too many factors to say two wins or bust. The teams traveling from the East will likely have a shorter transition into St. Thomas.

HAHA.... you must have graduated years ago...... one class today and its Online! Did you guys have online courses back then?

 

[Midmajor??]

We seem to always have a lot of excuses for our team play. Travel too tough! they're to young, they need time to gel, student section at opposing schools to loud, our student section not loud enough! Its a wonder we ever win a game outside of the Dee!

 

[Webergrad02]

On the positive side, I am seeing the results of a lot of player development. Hajek, Bolomboy, and Hill have improved dramatically. By committee, they have more than replaced Tresnak. We are still a little hit and miss on replacing Berry. We need to keep in mind that Senglin and Gittens are both just 2nd year guys. We can probably expect more inconsistency this season from them.

It would be cool if we looked at other teams results before we limit what we can do as a team. We joked on this forum that there was no way Stew could bring his team together due to all the lost talent and the famous chemistry issues. Not only have they rebuilded their program they're doing it and winning at the same time. look at the number of Freshman and JUCO's they brought in to their program! Don't they need time to gel? The guys need time to play together! Getting tired of all the excuses! We need to raise the bar and quit being satisfied with getting better after out of conference play. The program shouldn't be happy with less than two wins this weekend!

Shouldn't you be in-class raising the bar on your studies right now youngguns? It is hard to say who we will be playing this weekend besides Illinois State. I don't think you can say it is two wins or bust. I am not sure when the team is leaving, but it is going to take them a while to get to St Thomas. When I had the trip booked, I was leaving SLC at 10 PM Thursday flying to JFK and arriving at 5:00 AM Eastern Friday. Then flying from JFK to Puerto Rico, then from Puerto Rico to St Thomas arriving at 2 pm local time. I know the teams travel will be better but it still may take a toll on them in that first game. There are just way too many factors to say two wins or bust. The teams traveling from the East will likely have a shorter transition into St. Thomas.

HAHA.... you must have graduated years ago...... one class today and its Online! Did you guys have online courses back then?

I graduated in 2002. I think I had two or three online classes during that time.

 

[Itiger]

Don't want to be disrespectful..... Didn't realize students had laptops back then! I love taking classes and not leaving my bed!
Team leaves tonight for the tourney!

 

[catscratched]

If you believe sacstatesman's altitude crap, the cats should have an advantage, going down to sea level to play in the Jam. If there is an advantage, I don't think it would be much in the first game. Maybe in the later games, as our guys are recovering faster than teams that normally play closer to that altitude.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

As for expectations...I think that we should always expect to beat in state teams at the Dee, and to play them tough on the road. ... One thing the Cats did for the first 40 years of the program was to beat the in state school and to always play them tough. The last 10 years has been tough. Weber only has a handful of wins over the big three (none against BYU). ...

Just the big 3 and only at home? How about UVU? Out of curiosity I checked the last 5 games against UVU. Weber is 3-2 and you can add that last loss to them as one that still stings to go along with the latest USU loss. As for USU, they are 5-0 in their last 5 vs UVU and for all I know have never lost to them. It appears BYU wont play them and the Pukes of course won't either-- other PAC-n teams will, though. It's a rhetorical question but has Weber really lost that much ground with the in-state battle? I guess 9-1 vs SUU is something to hang their hat on? Speaking of the Pukes, it's a fun note that the last time they were willing to play either SUU or Weber, they lost :lol: .

 

[hawkssb04]

On the positive side, I am seeing the results of a lot of player development. Hajek, Bolomboy, and Hill have improved dramatically. By committee, they have more than replaced Tresnak. We are still a little hit and miss on replacing Berry. We need to keep in mind that Senglin and Gittens are both just 2nd year guys. We can probably expect more inconsistency this season from them.

By my own admission (as I've been down on him a lot lately), Hajek has been a nice boost off the bench. In fact, he is technically tied for the national-lead in shooting percentage at 100 percent, going 6-of-6 from the floor in his first two games. I'll take it. :shock:

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Wow, arguing over online classes. Ha!! How pathetic. Guns, don't you have some washing to do? Aren't you suppose to be washing our teams jerseys and cups?

Anyway, I feel we are growing as a team. We lost a lot from last years team. Three starters! Yes, we know about Tres and Berry, but losing Richardson was a major loss as well. He was our best defenders and a senior leader. You can tell we miss him. That is a factor.

 

[Itiger]

Wow, arguing over online classes. Ha!! How pathetic. Guns, don't you have some washing to do? Aren't you suppose to be washing our teams jerseys and cups?

Anyway, I feel we are growing as a team. We lost a lot from last years team. Three starters! Yes, we know about Tres and Berry, but losing Richardson was a major loss as well. He was our best defenders and a senior leader. You can tell we miss him. That is a factor.

Barney, wrong guy! I also didn't think we were arguing.
The two starters that came back this year was the BSC Freshman and Defensive Player of the year! What will the excuse be next year if all of our starters are back ? Students aren't cheering loud enough? We are starting 3 juniors and two Sophomores. Other teams have a lot less experience than Weber!

How many starters did USU have back? Will the excuses ever end!

 

[WSUProf]

I have a question for all of you who made the trip up to Logan last Friday.
What did we do right in the first half that put us ahead by 18? In the 3 games I've seen at the Dee this year, all against weak opponents, I haven't seen a team that could go up to Logan and put up 47 in the first half (even against a sub-par Aggie team).
So, again, I'm curious, how did we do that, and can we count on that kind of play down the road for a full 40 minutes, or was it just a fluke?

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

Wow, arguing over online classes. Ha!! How pathetic. Guns, don't you have some washing to do? Aren't you suppose to be washing our teams jerseys and cups?

Anyway, I feel we are growing as a team. We lost a lot from last years team. Three starters! Yes, we know about Tres and Berry, but losing Richardson was a major loss as well. He was our best defenders and a senior leader. You can tell we miss him. That is a factor.

Barney, wrong guy! I also didn't think we were arguing.
The two starters that came back this year was the BSC Freshman and Defensive Player of the year! What will the excuse be next year if all of our starters are back ? Students aren't cheering loud enough? We are starting 3 juniors and two Sophomores. Other teams have a lot less experience than Weber!

How many starters did USU have back? Will the excuses ever end!

Okay, right. Oh, by the way, if you want to go to med school, you might want to not take online courses. They count that against you. But, I'm sure you already knew that, judging by the fact you know so much. No matter, the Big Sky Freshman of the Year is playing out of position. If you remember right he was a 2 during conference and rarely was in charge of running the offense. And the Defensive Player of the Year had Tres to help him out and has never been good on the offensive side of the court. No excuses though. We have the team we have and as fans we either go down with the ship or enjoy the ride.

What are you advocating Guns? Get rid of Rahe? What should we offer the position to you? Yeah, I like your plan, we should get rid of Rahe. Lets all call Bovee and tell him to early retire Rahe so that we can get a John L. Smith Type to destroy our basketball program. Great idea Guns. Keep going to school. You really need to gain some wisdom and knowledge. :dunce:

 

[n.ogdencat]

Wow, arguing over online classes. Ha!! How pathetic. Guns, don't you have some washing to do? Aren't you suppose to be washing our teams jerseys and cups?

Anyway, I feel we are growing as a team. We lost a lot from last years team. Three starters! Yes, we know about Tres and Berry, but losing Richardson was a major loss as well. He was our best defenders and a senior leader. You can tell we miss him. That is a factor.

Barney, wrong guy! I also didn't think we were arguing.
The two starters that came back this year was the BSC Freshman and Defensive Player of the year! What will the excuse be next year if all of our starters are back ? Students aren't cheering loud enough? We are starting 3 juniors and two Sophomores. Other teams have a lot less experience than Weber!

How many starters did USU have back? Will the excuses ever end!

Okay, right. Oh, by the way, if you want to go to med school, you might want to not take online courses. They count that against you. But, I'm sure you already knew that, judging by the fact you know so much. No matter, the Big Sky Freshman of the Year is playing out of position. If you remember right he was a 2 during conference and rarely was in charge of running the offense. And the Defensive Player of the Year had Tres to help him out and has never been good on the offensive side of the court. No excuses though. We have the team we have and as fans we either go down with the ship or enjoy the ride.

What are you advocating Guns? Get rid of Rahe? What should we offer the position to you? Yeah, I like your plan, we should get rid of Rahe. Lets all call Bovee and tell him to early retire Rahe so that we can get a John L. Smith Type to destroy our basketball program. Great idea Guns. Keep going to school. You really need to gain some wisdom and knowledge. :dunce:

YIKES...lets all calm down. :thumb: Youngguns isn't "advocating" that Rahe be replaced. I think, he is merely wanting to see the Cats actually win some other games that mean something other than Big Sky games. That is what we all want.

After the last couple of seasons, I feel, we all kinda thought that this season would be different. We are talented, deep, and in a great position to take the program to a new level. And then suddenly we totally fell apart in the second half and now, it seems, we are all in panic mode. Let us all take a step away from the ledge and enjoy the season. We aren't as good as we thought, but we aren't as bad either. :nod:

 

[Itiger]

no..... I'm not in any way advocating getting rid of coach Rahe, but I do feel that he needs to make some changes . Every Coach does..... if you stay the same the program gets stale. Teams figure out your tendencies. If we start slow every year, make changes to help you get out of the gate faster.

Why are all of these players playing out of position? Can Hunter run the point? why is the defensive player of the year not playing his normal position? Would Gittens be a spark coming off the bench? I don't know.... should we try a zone????? I agree..... every 19 year old needs wisdom and knowledge, but I also know that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results!!

 

[Da Bears]

no..... I'm not in any way advocating getting rid of coach Rahe, but I do feel that he needs to make some changes . Every Coach does..... if you stay the same the program gets stale. Teams figure out your tendencies. If we start slow every year, make changes to help you get out of the gate faster.

Why are all of these players playing out of position? Can Hunter run the point? why is the defensive player of the year not playing his normal position? Would Gittens be a spark coming off the bench? I don't know.... should we try a zone????? I agree..... every 19 year old needs wisdom and knowledge, but I also know that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results!!

:thumb: :thumb: Purple.... seems like you're trying to put words in the kids mouth! He never said anything like that and lots of us often wonder why we don't try to make some changes. The zone thing still baffles me. Lets not stifle the kids opinion because he's a student.

 

[WeberSki]

Wow, arguing over online classes. Ha!! How pathetic. Guns, don't you have some washing to do? Aren't you suppose to be washing our teams jerseys and cups?

Anyway, I feel we are growing as a team. We lost a lot from last years team. Three starters! Yes, we know about Tres and Berry, but losing Richardson was a major loss as well. He was our best defenders and a senior leader. You can tell we miss him. That is a factor.

Barney, wrong guy! I also didn't think we were arguing.
The two starters that came back this year was the BSC Freshman and Defensive Player of the year! What will the excuse be next year if all of our starters are back ? Students aren't cheering loud enough? We are starting 3 juniors and two Sophomores. Other teams have a lot less experience than Weber!

How many starters did USU have back? Will the excuses ever end!

you mean 2 Juniors, 3 Sophomore's (1 of which a jc who hasn't played D-1 until last week)

Still not an excuse at all. The reason we are so young is because the coaches completely struck out on an entire recruiting class of 3 who would all be Seniors right now.

 

[Webergrad02]

I have a question for all of you who made the trip up to Logan last Friday.
What did we do right in the first half that put us ahead by 18? In the 3 games I've seen at the Dee this year, all against weak opponents, I haven't seen a team that could go up to Logan and put up 47 in the first half (even against a sub-par Aggie team).
So, again, I'm curious, how did we do that, and can we count on that kind of play down the road for a full 40 minutes, or was it just a fluke?

The first thing that stood out to me was ball movement. There was a lot more passing and less dribbling. The wings were getting open looks and hitting them. We hit all of our free throws. We out rebounded them significantly in the first half. We pushed it when we would get a defensive board. USU didn't run a lot of pick n roll in the first half.

 

[Purple_Posse]

When I graduated, Al Gore had just invented the internet. :grizo1:

Glad to see Hajek come off the bench and contribute. Hope he keeps it up. I'm excited to see how Joel will progress throughout the year.

 

[hawkssb04]

What the hell happened to this thread? :wtf:

 

[SWWeatherCat]

I have a question for all of you who made the trip up to Logan last Friday.
What did we do right in the first half that put us ahead by 18? In the 3 games I've seen at the Dee this year, all against weak opponents, I haven't seen a team that could go up to Logan and put up 47 in the first half (even against a sub-par Aggie team).
So, again, I'm curious, how did we do that, and can we count on that kind of play down the road for a full 40 minutes, or was it just a fluke?

It sounds simplistic but Weber hit a very high percentage of their shots, including being about perfect from the line. They had good ball movement. They thrived on the confidence with each make. Utah State shot very poorly-- I mean ugly shot after ugly shot. I'd have to look at the stats closely to make sure I'm not remembering incorrectly but it seems they also settled for mostly outside jumpers with the exception of #13 strolling to the rim, he did that, at will, the entire game. To beat a dead horse, Weber shot very well and with confidence until they saw a zone.