QB Situation going forward....

[Seattle Eagle]

The biggest difference I have seen in West between 2014 and 2015 is that he is a lot calmer this year. He doesn't get rattled when things aren't going the right way. Yesterday was a good example of that.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

I might be in the minority but I think we improved at the QB position. For sure with West and maybe with Hennessey too.

Who would have thunk it?

Honest question for everyone with an opinion: Is it possible that we actually upgraded with Vernon transferring? :shock:

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I might be in the minority but I think we improved at the QB position. For sure with West and maybe with Hennessey too.

Who would have thunk it?

Honest question for everyone with an opinion: Is it possible that we actually upgraded with Vernon transferring? :shock:

I think that still remains to be seen, but the common factor is Baldwin and Hill. As long as we have them coaching our QBs and running our offense in some capacity, I don't think we'll have a let down. Our system and their coaching only seems to get better and better each year in terms of the efficiency and proficiency at the QB positions. Eight months ago, I would've said that VA's numbers couldn't be topped and that he is/was the best QB Eastern has and ever will have. I know seriously doubt that. It's only taken West four games (eight if you count last year) to break a record that VA didn't. Granted our RB health might have had something to do with that, but West has been nothing short of impressive. Hennessey has been as well in the limited time he's seen.

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

EWURanger,
I agree with you all the way. VA got yanked yesterday, don't know the score, Utah kicked their BUTTS. I have said many times Our Quarterbacks are the best I think in the Big Sky. I knew West had it in him to be the Quarterback he is today, and will get better with each game. Hennessey and Gubrud are going to be just as good. Cooper Kupp set the record Eric Kimble had set years ago, I remembered seeing him Eric play. Coop broke his record in two years. I am surely glad of this BYE Week, we need it to heal our Walking Wounded. Go Eagles!!!!! Vic Wallace

 

[EWURanger]

I think that still remains to be seen, but the common factor is Baldwin and Hill.

This. I'd never try to take away from what VA did here because he was/is a great college QB, and within this system he was great. But a lot of it is the system. Baldwin's offense puts good QB's in a position to be great, and they have recruited guys that have been great within this system.

The other constant in all of this has been outstanding WR play. As good as Meyer/Nichols/Mitchell/Adams were, they had some amazing receivers to throw to.

On a related note, this is the first year Baldwin has relinquished play calling duties. Hill is now calling all the plays on offense. I'd say it's been working pretty well.

 

[eaglemachine]

EWURanger,
I agree with you all the way. VA got yanked yesterday, don't know the score, Utah kicked their BUTTS. I have said many times Our Quarterbacks are the best I think in the Big Sky. I knew West had it in him to be the Quarterback he is today, and will get better with each game. Hennessey and Gubrud are going to be just as good. Cooper Kupp set the record Eric Kimble had set years ago, I remembered seeing him Eric play. Coop broke his record in two years. I am surely glad of this BYE Week, we need it to heal our Walking Wounded. Go Eagles!!!!! Vic Wallace

Kimble was probably the most versatile play EWU has ever had on offense.

 

[Obzerver]

Ranger, you mentioned "On a related note, this is the first year Baldwin has relinquished play calling duties. Hill is now calling all the plays on offense. I'd say it's been working pretty well." I had not heard that and if so good for Hill. I'm sure that's a way to get Hill a small bump in pay. Same thing with Best when he was given the title of OC..a way of getting valuable personel a bump. I'm sure Baldwin has alot of input on play calling as he is very good (understatement) at that and is his forte. Personally, I see Baldwin going to big time program as OC that would pay him as much as a FBS mid type major HC.

 

[EWURanger]

Personally, I see Baldwin going to big time program as OC that would pay him as much as a FBS mid type major HC.

Maybe, anything's possible. But if money were the most significant factor, wouldn't it be safe to assume that he would have already taken an OC job at a P5 school? If you look at the jobs he's been rumored to be a finalist for within the past few years (Oregon St, Boise St) it wouldn't appear that he's looking at being an OC..quite the opposite.

 

[Obzerver]

Yeah, heck I realize the money is just a part of the decision making process. Was just trying to make the point that OC form the big 5 conferences probably pay more than a HC job at a Wyoming type school. Also, don't know how much of a finalist he was at OSU/BSU...lotta stuff behind the scenes we'll never know.

I do know not many FCS coaches make the jump to a big time program as a head coach. The big 5 conferences look at the productivity of offense and defense of their current teams. I believe Baldwin has established himself as a great offensive mind who can recruit while the defensive side pales in comparison. Many coaches who go to a school as a head coach bring along many of his assistants and a school may look at that as a deterent in making the final decision.

Guess I look at what Jim McElwain (and many others) have done taking a high paying OC or DC job at a big time program...fine tuning their skills while proving they are part of the elite in the college football world. Then at the right time board the bus to a high profile school as a Head Coach.Such was the path of McElwain as Bama's OC for four years then two as HC at Colorado State and of course now doing well at Florida. Baldwin is still relatively young and has his best years in front of him. Saban kinda looked outside box to McElwin and I can easily see the thing for Baldwin.

 

[EWURanger]

Yeah, heck I realize the money is just a part of the decision making process. Was just trying to make the point that OC form the big 5 conferences probably pay more than a HC job at a Wyoming type school. Also, don't know how much of a finalist he was at OSU/BSU...lotta stuff behind the scenes we'll never know.

I do know not many FCS coaches make the jump to a big time program as a head coach. The big 5 conferences look at the productivity of offense and defense of their current teams. I believe Baldwin has established himself as a great offensive mind who can recruit while the defensive side pales in comparison. Many coaches who go to a school as a head coach bring along many of his assistants and a school may look at that as a deterent in making the final decision.

Guess I look at what Jim McElwain (and many others) have done taking a high paying OC or DC job at a big time program...fine tuning their skills while proving they are part of the elite in the college football world. Then at the right time board the bus to a high profile school as a Head Coach.Such was the path of McElwain as Bama's OC for four years then two as HC at Colorado State and of course now doing well at Florida. Baldwin is still relatively young and has his best years in front of him. Saban kinda looked outside box to McElwin and I can easily see the thing for Baldwin.

Fair enough. Those are some good points.

 

[LDopaPDX]

I think that still remains to be seen, but the common factor is Baldwin and Hill.

This. I'd never try to take away from what VA did here because he was/is a great college QB, and within this system he was great. But a lot of it is the system. Baldwin's offense puts good QB's in a position to be great, and they have recruited guys that have been great within this system.

The other constant in all of this has been outstanding WR play. As good as Meyer/Nichols/Mitchell/Adams were, they had some amazing receivers to throw to.

On a related note, this is the first year Baldwin has relinquished play calling duties. Hill is now calling all the plays on offense. I'd say it's been working pretty well.

For whatever the reason, Vernon doesn't seem confident in turning the ball upfield when the opportunity presents itself. That's what gave him so much success at Eastern; he always had a running threat, so the back 7 always had to keep an eye in the backfield.

I don't know why he seems shy in Oregon's backfield. I'm sure some of it has to do with seeing more defensive speed in those BCS games, and he's been a little beat up. If he's going to get it going again, he needs to feel at liberty to take off when he can.

 

[LDopaPDX]

In truth, I'd love to see him put up 500 yards of total offense every game... I like the guy and still find myself rooting for him. However, I still want Oregon to lose. So scores of 62-59 would suit me very well.