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QB Situation going forward....
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luckyintheorder
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Rjones61 said:
You pull this of NCAA FCS?
Rafter_Reese
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Most senior quarterbacks around the country CAN'T do this (the video). I'm talking about the ones that start. I'm talking about the BCS kind. If you asked 99% of the backup QB's in America to come in off the bench cold and make Oregon look bad on defense, they couldn't do it. When I watch those highlights, I scratch my head in wonder and think to myself, "I can't believe he's only a freshman." I'm sure there are growing pains to come, but WOW!Seattle Eagle said:
go eags!
West has great arm strength. There was one particular deep out that was an NFL throw, the kind that many college QB's can't make. West is also very accurate and has great touch when need be.
Hennessey has WAY better footwork IMHO. I don't recall any him making any big arm type throws (could have missed it) but he seemed accurate enough to run our offense. Both showed great poise, but that first drive by Hennessey where he's displaying the complete package of making good throws, sensing backside pressure and evading it, and the audible for a TD on first and goal from the 1, tip the "it" factor in his favor. The kind of "it" we've all been blessed to see around these parts for quite some time.
Not saying Jordan doesn't deserve all the credit in the world or shouldn't start this week, but I totally agree that Reiily needs to see significant action as well and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't.
Hennessey has WAY better footwork IMHO. I don't recall any him making any big arm type throws (could have missed it) but he seemed accurate enough to run our offense. Both showed great poise, but that first drive by Hennessey where he's displaying the complete package of making good throws, sensing backside pressure and evading it, and the audible for a TD on first and goal from the 1, tip the "it" factor in his favor. The kind of "it" we've all been blessed to see around these parts for quite some time.
Not saying Jordan doesn't deserve all the credit in the world or shouldn't start this week, but I totally agree that Reiily needs to see significant action as well and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't.
Known Baldwin and his willingness to "shake it up" we will see dual quarterback action. Jordan definitely has control, but Reilly definitely is going to get into game situation and do exactly what is needed.
It worked way too well in 2012, and should be great all over again.
It worked way too well in 2012, and should be great all over again.
luckyintheorder
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Rafter_Reese said:
OK. This is a spectacular highlights video. Mike R needs to make one for this whole game and all future games. Loved the way Reilly looked off the defense on most plays, trusted the #allgalaxy receivers and good pocket awareness. Loved the last TD for Kupp at 10:15 where the outside receiver does a slant (looks like they were setting up a pick, which they didn't) Kupp hesitates until he clears, fakes a bubble(?) then blows by the defender first step and Reilly floats a perfect touch pass for an over the shoulder catch. The only negative was not winning the game. Team brought it, had nothing to lose and showed great effort, poise and competitiveness without being chippy. Love it. Let's play loose this week at UNI and the outcome will be a no brainer.
Rafter_Reese
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If Cassidy Curtis is out 4 weeks, we just might need some more mobility at QB in the near future. Hopefully we have someone that is capable of coming in and plugging that hole immediately. Mobility at QB can fix a lot of offensive line issues. Not that we have many.Seattle Eagle said:
go eags!
GROUND&POUND
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I agree with all of this, but will add that I also think West's movement was stiff and at times bordered on slow.Rjones61 said:
Hennessy also had great zip on his football, and the more he moved the better the ball was delivered. To me, watching this team I think that movement will prove to be invaluable down the road. He is also ONLY a redshirt frosh! How good will this kid be if he gets the starting nod sooner rather than later?
Reminds me of Fran Tarkenton.
Seattle Eagle
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zch_L6HUY80[/youtube]
luckyintheorder
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Thank you Mike R for both videos.
West made some throws very few QB's should ever throw, especially against athlete's like Oregon has. He made it look easy. Good touch on TD in corner too. OL looked great in 1st half highlights as West got the ball out quickly when he saw potential for pressure and didn't need to scramble much. His decision making and arm strength are the differentiators. Hope he takes care of the hydration/cramping. Looking forward to getting one of our speedsters deep this week and West throwing it out there 65-70 yards. (a man can dream).
Glad to read that the team isn't satisfied and ready to go get it done at UNI this week. Tough road trip, but it looks like this team has the "right stuff" mentally. Go Eags!
West made some throws very few QB's should ever throw, especially against athlete's like Oregon has. He made it look easy. Good touch on TD in corner too. OL looked great in 1st half highlights as West got the ball out quickly when he saw potential for pressure and didn't need to scramble much. His decision making and arm strength are the differentiators. Hope he takes care of the hydration/cramping. Looking forward to getting one of our speedsters deep this week and West throwing it out there 65-70 yards. (a man can dream).
Glad to read that the team isn't satisfied and ready to go get it done at UNI this week. Tough road trip, but it looks like this team has the "right stuff" mentally. Go Eags!
GoldenEagle
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EWURanger said:
I told you knuckleheads West would do great. I was really impressed with both QBs. I already knew what West could do and Hennessey showed me better footwork and pocket presence than I had seen from him in the scrimmages. Both showed great poise last Saturday. Eastern turns great athletes into great QBs. Beau Baldwin and Zak Hill are outstanding QB coaches.
Maddog6225
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I am not sure what Coach was thinking. West was excellent and only missed two throws in the first half, then down by 1 score and he decides to change Quarterbacks..... What game was he watching. You don't change, just so you can Get a look at someone else in that point in a game that your Starter was having a Great game. That move took them out of game and Rhythem. You change when your starter is having a bad game or your 40 ahead and 2 minutes left in game. Both quarterbacks played well, but West was better and was in Rhythem.
Maddog6225 said:
Your thoughts are the same as mine. West had done nothing wrong to get pulled, and doing stuff like that only deflates a kid's confidence. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the plan all along was to play Hennessy in the third quarter as some kind of change-up... much like UNI did to us with much more success.
I'm not seeing enough qualitative difference between West and Hennessy to make a solid determination on which is better. Therefore, if West won the position in camp, I'd say keep playing him. He certainly hasn't cost us any wins.
The group I'm most disappointed in is our OL. This was supposed to be a strength, and they have been beaten out badly in each of the first two games. They got no push whatsoever yesterday as evidenced by our pathetic run game. I can't understand why a group that was so solid last year and returned all but two players can suddenly look so mediocre.
ewueagle2010
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I get what you guys are saying about the odd timing in switching QB'S, but at the same time, offense wasn't our problem yesterday until the pick 6 thrown by West, which I would argue did inevitably cost them the game. Granted there were other major issues that mattered a lot previous to that play.
I trust Baldwin, and I think there is probably more than what we are seeing as fans. Clearly, West is on a short leash and I think it has to do with leadership or lack thereof. That's just a guess... and that's meant as no disrespect to West. We'll have to see what happens next week and with Hennessey's injury. I've thought for a while now that Hennessey gives us a better chance to win now and for the future, IMO.
Go Eags!
I trust Baldwin, and I think there is probably more than what we are seeing as fans. Clearly, West is on a short leash and I think it has to do with leadership or lack thereof. That's just a guess... and that's meant as no disrespect to West. We'll have to see what happens next week and with Hennessey's injury. I've thought for a while now that Hennessey gives us a better chance to win now and for the future, IMO.
Go Eags!
GROUND&POUND
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I respect your opinion, and do think West is playing well.... but I'd also say I think Hennessy is outplaying West. In particular, his movement allows us to create more big plays; something we aren't getting nearly as much with West.Maddog6225 said:
luckyintheorder
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GROUND&POUND said:
West was terrific given the plays being called. It looked very much like the play calling went back to a more traditional aggressiveness in the 2nd half that took advantage of the UNI defense. Reilly's arm wasn't actually strong enough to make the deep seam throws, the WR bailed him out on one. Didn't the play calling look conservative in the 1st half? 2 runs and a long 3rd down several times. Reilly's movement is secondary to making the read in pressure situations and getting it out on time and to the proper receiver. More exciting maybe, better.. eh?
Prepared to leave this in the coaches hands, but it is starting to look like they aren't exactly sure how to use the plethora of "riches" at all the positions. Not a problem they are used too. Worst one to mess with is QB where we look to have talent 4 deep.