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Recruiting

It will take Sperbeck several years to establish a recruiting "base" in Northern CA. HS coaches play a significant role in the recruiting process. Sperbeck and his staff I'm sure are building critical relationships with the coaches at Grant, Granite Bay, etc. to help lure those kids to Sac State.

It will take time but with the upgrade in facilities and schedule (UNLV, Fresno State) Sac State Football could be a sleeping giant.
 
Having an insiders view its great to hear these post on a regular basis. It definitely lifts player’s spirits. However being there and being put through the process of Sperbeck, the decisions made for the 2009 season look grim and dismal. A major key walked out of the door in the strength and conditioning department. Uribe was a key factor why those players were able to go as far as they did and now he’s gone. Then there’s the release of the DB's coach which was needed, but the Linebackers coach Brown are they insane? He was a huge part of why those players on defense were so disciplined. Both coaches were a good enough to find even better jobs already, and it goes to show you what a mistake it was to see them go. And neither wanted to leave, but were forced to by the hands of Sperbeck. Sperbeck is a business man granted trying to stay a float, but he’s gonna have it rough in the next coming seasons. The support from the players isn’t there, and he runs them into the ground. They'll be lucky enough to get through double days if he doesn’t kill them during spring. This isn’t JC ball, kids need rest to stay healthy. You can’t pass the blame onto your strength and conditioning coach or any other coaches. You have to eat it yourself Sperbeck. A family is what wins championships, not a business. He needs to look deeper than keeping his job. Uniting those players is what is important. That’s how you win, something that hasn’t ever been here in Sac. And he does no such thing, which makes the players distant.
 
THE INFO, thanks for the "inside information." Hopefully there arent any Tisdale (forgive the spelling, you know who Im talking about) supporters lurking on the board, they sure do know how to spoil a good time.

Working the players hard is necessary, it builds character and discipline, things that have been lacking in years past. College football is a business, and it should be treated like one. College football is the most expensive sport at any university, staying competitive and or building a competitive program takes a coach that understands that they are going to have to make some tough choices/decisions in staffing, recruiting, etc.

Sperbeck isnt perfect, no coach is, but I believe he strives to be. The better the program does the better his career will be whether it be with the Hornets or, God forbid, another program. Im sure the staffing changes that were made were in the best interest of Hornet football and nothing personal or political.
 
SpecialOlympicHornet said:
It will take Sperbeck several years to establish a recruiting "base" in Northern CA. HS coaches play a significant role in the recruiting process. Sperbeck and his staff I'm sure are building critical relationships with the coaches at Grant, Granite Bay, etc. to help lure those kids to Sac State.

It will take time but with the upgrade in facilities and schedule (UNLV, Fresno State) Sac State Football could be a sleeping giant.
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You seem to be making a rather large assumption here: that Sperbeck came in from "outside" Superior California and has ZERO HS contacts. While there may be some time in getting some name recognition, nothing could be further from the truth.

First, wasn't Sperbeck's juco somewhere in the Northern California area? Given the success of his juco program, that alone would kill your supposition, but you're also forgetting about those on the coaching staff, particularly Jonny O, that have had recruiting contacts throughout the region for years.

It's going to take time to get some good guys, particularly with the Pac-10 and the Manure Pile in the area. But Sperbeck will get the job done, and a whole lot sooner than many think.
 
Working the players hard is necessary, it builds character and discipline, things that have been lacking in years past. College football is a business, and it should be treated like one. College football is the most expensive sport at any university, staying competitive and or building a competitive program takes a coach that understands that they are going to have to make some tough choices/decisions in staffing, recruiting, etc.
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Couldn't agree more StungAlum.
 
THE INFO said:
Having an insiders view its great to hear these post on a regular basis. It definitely lifts player’s spirits. However being there and being put through the process of Sperbeck, the decisions made for the 2009 season look grim and dismal. A major key walked out of the door in the strength and conditioning department. Uribe was a key factor why those players were able to go as far as they did and now he’s gone. Then there’s the release of the DB's coach which was needed, but the Linebackers coach Brown are they insane? He was a huge part of why those players on defense were so disciplined. Both coaches were a good enough to find even better jobs already, and it goes to show you what a mistake it was to see them go. And neither wanted to leave, but were forced to by the hands of Sperbeck. Sperbeck is a business man granted trying to stay a float, but he’s gonna have it rough in the next coming seasons. The support from the players isn’t there, and he runs them into the ground. They'll be lucky enough to get through double days if he doesn’t kill them during spring. This isn’t JC ball, kids need rest to stay healthy. You can’t pass the blame onto your strength and conditioning coach or any other coaches. You have to eat it yourself Sperbeck. A family is what wins championships, not a business. He needs to look deeper than keeping his job. Uniting those players is what is important. That’s how you win, something that hasn’t ever been here in Sac. And he does no such thing, which makes the players distant.
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Is Mooshagian still posting on here? Let me guess, you're related to one of these coaches or are in fact, one of them?

This is one of the most ridiculous entries I have ever seen here. I'm sure the strength and conditioning coach was a great guy, but I have yet to see a S&C Coach win ball games. Sure they help and play a role on developing the team, but to suggest that a season will be in the toilet in January because a strength coach left is assinine.

We're coming off a season in which we finally did something, the future is looking bright, and you're going to try and pull this BS on your first post? Nice try, troll.
 
Phantom Hornet said:
THE INFO said:
Having an insiders view its great to hear these post on a regular basis. It definitely lifts player’s spirits. However being there and being put through the process of Sperbeck, the decisions made for the 2009 season look grim and dismal. A major key walked out of the door in the strength and conditioning department. Uribe was a key factor why those players were able to go as far as they did and now he’s gone. Then there’s the release of the DB's coach which was needed, but the Linebackers coach Brown are they insane? He was a huge part of why those players on defense were so disciplined. Both coaches were a good enough to find even better jobs already, and it goes to show you what a mistake it was to see them go. And neither wanted to leave, but were forced to by the hands of Sperbeck. Sperbeck is a business man granted trying to stay a float, but he’s gonna have it rough in the next coming seasons. The support from the players isn’t there, and he runs them into the ground. They'll be lucky enough to get through double days if he doesn’t kill them during spring. This isn’t JC ball, kids need rest to stay healthy. You can’t pass the blame onto your strength and conditioning coach or any other coaches. You have to eat it yourself Sperbeck. A family is what wins championships, not a business. He needs to look deeper than keeping his job. Uniting those players is what is important. That’s how you win, something that hasn’t ever been here in Sac. And he does no such thing, which makes the players distant.
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Is Mooshagian still posting on here? Let me guess, you're related to one of these coaches or are in fact, one of them?

This is one of the most ridiculous entries I have ever seen here. I'm sure the strength and conditioning coach was a great guy, but I have yet to see a S&C Coach win ball games. Sure they help and play a role on developing the team, but to suggest that a season will be in the toilet in January because a strength coach left is assinine.

We're coming off a season in which we finally did something, the future is looking bright, and you're going to try and pull this BS on your first post? Nice try, troll.
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Hahahaha, I love it when those posts get called out, good job Phantom.
 
Super Hornet: I appreciate your response. You sound like someone with knowledge of the recruiting process.

Comparing the "reach" of a JUCO coach against that of a scholarship-driven D1A coach is a bit of a stretch. These JUCO coaches don't have anywhere near the horsepower with HS coaches that Sperbeck will (or should) have. If, though, Sperbeck hits the ground running as you suggest, then I will expect a very solid recruiting class THIS YEAR!

The point is that things (aka establishing recruiting bases) that are truly meaningful take time...things that are measurable can be accomplished in one day. I am hoping for meaningful as I'm sure you are.
 
In response to the attacks on THE INFO, I'd like to express support for the views he espouses and commend him for the courage to say them. Much of what he says rings true. Until the coaching staff can capture the hearts of the players, Sac State football will never reach its potential.
New posters may be annoying, but sometimes what they have to say is important to hear.
 
Florida's Urban Myer, maybe you heard of him, and his former offensive coordinator Dan Mullen and now the new head coach for Mississippi State put the highest premium on having the best strength coach. Losing Uribe, who came out of USC's program, is a big loss.



Said Urban about how to be successful, "Recruit, and hire a tremendous strength coach," Meyer said. "Dan knows. … If a guy gets hired and [says] that 'I'm going to hire a strength coach later,' that's a guy that has no clue what's going on, and he'll fail."

That message certainly was passed along to Mullen. Before he interviewed with Mississippi State, Mullen called Virginia strength coach Matt Balis, who had worked with Mullen for Meyer at Utah and Florida.

"I wanted to know if I got offered the job that I had a chance to bring him with me," Mullen said of Balis. "People don't see a strength coach spends as much, if not more, time with your players than any coach. … If I'm not there in the weight room, I need to know the job is getting done. I'd trust Matt with my life. Obviously, I trusted him with my career."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3834525
 
From what I understand, the Strength & Conditioning coaches are the ONLY coaches with year-round access to the Student-Athletes. The HC, OC, DC, etc. have only limited access.
 
SpecialOlympicHornet said:
From what I understand, the Strength & Conditioning coaches are the ONLY coaches with year-round access to the Student-Athletes. The HC, OC, DC, etc. have only limited access.
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That makes a ton of sense given the fact that some athletes may try to go the multi-sport route. That's rare in the collegiate ranks nowadays, but it would be completely stupid for a S&C coach not to have access to a hoops or track athlete just because he's also a football player.

Actually, in a sense, the position coaches DO have year round access to their players; they're responsible year-round for keeping the knuckleheads in class where they belong.

Incidentally, SOH, as the administrator here, I want to welcome you to our forum. You've already provided some good insights. Thanks a bunch.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
Who is the leading candidate to replace Uribe?

Why did he leave?
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While it's certainly true that a S&C coach isn't the primary factor in winning championships, s/he is certainly a very important factor. Many a team has lost a game because they didn't have the strength to control the line of scrimmage and the QB couldn't throw deep enough to get a Hail Mary win.

Personally, if we've lost our S&C coach, I'd love for us go make a play for John McBride, the former S&C coordinator at UOP. He's not only dedicated to football, he's had several athletes as personal clients who have made the Olympics.
 
newfan said:
In response to the attacks on THE INFO, I'd like to express support for the views he espouses and commend him for the courage to say them. Much of what he says rings true. Until the coaching staff can capture the hearts of the players, Sac State football will never reach its potential.
New posters may be annoying, but sometimes what they have to say is important to hear.
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I know you two are the same person, knock it off...

In regards to the Strength Coach, there is no doubt that they play a huge part in the development of a program. That being said, as long as Sac can hire a capable replacement there shouldn't be that much of a dropoff. It's not the same as replacing a head coach.

Having worked in sports for awhile now, I can tell you that the strength facilities play as much a part in the development of players as the S&C Coach themselves, and having the Broad Facility is huge.

Unless we hire a guy who is barely qualified, we as fans are not going notice the difference.
 
TYORK07 said:
I'm saying we have to get as many local hs and jc guys in for visits as possible. If they don't want to stay and go somewhere else thats fine. But we must at least attempt to convice them to stay home.
Pierce Burton was never asked to visit. I know this because I know the coach at Rio personally.
Zack Graves goes to Montana which is the same conference and he's probably this area's best back.
We can't let Montana come into Sacramento and get a kid like that. That's what I 'M SAYING.
In Burton's case he chose Hawaii thats FBS I CAN UNDERSTAND. But graves to Montana no I don't like it.

I just want us to do better. I have seen improvment over recent years though.
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Who told you Graves is going to Montana...its not happening. He'd be lucky to get a walkon invitation to Sac State. Nice high school back, but hardly D1 material. Oakmont had a kid named Andy Davis years ago that Zach reminds me of. 5'6" and a buck 65. Had a nice D3 career.

1. Graves hasn't even taken the SAT yet, so he can't even go on a visit.
2. His grades are very marginal
3. He's maybe a 4.7 40 yard guy ... no great speedster is he.

Now Montana used to have a basketball player who was named Zach Graves. Are you perhaps entirely mixed up between the two? One is white and plays football, the other black and plays basketball at Chico State now.

Please: if we are going to criticize, lets get some facts straight.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
Who is the leading candidate to replace Uribe?

Why did he leave?
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I can't say who the leading candidate is, but I understand Uribe was hired to be the head strength coach at New Mexico State under their new football coach, Dwayne Walker, the former DC at UCLA.

I'd like to just thank Gary for the great job he did here and wish him well in his new position. We were fortunate to have a person of his caliber here for the time we did.
 
RB - Zach Graves, Whitney (Rocklin), 5-9, 163, Sr
Graves led Whitney to a 13-0 record and a Sac-Joaquin Section Division 4 championship in just its third year of existence. The Sacramento Bee's All-Metro Offensive Player of the Year, Graves rushed for a Sacramento area best 2,783 yards on 318 carries and scored 39 touchdowns. He saved his best for last, rushing for 302 yards and three scores in Whitney's 35-14 section championship win over Placer. For his career, Graves has run for 4,218 yards on 542 carries with 56 touchdowns. He'll play at Montana next year.


If this report is wrong then I APOLOGIZE. But my point is that we don't want our best big sky prospects to go to other big sky schools and we have to try and get as many locals into the program as possible.
I'm not saying Sperbeck isn't going to do this.
 
TYORK07 said:
RB - Zach Graves, Whitney (Rocklin), 5-9, 163, Sr
Graves led Whitney to a 13-0 record and a Sac-Joaquin Section Division 4 championship in just its third year of existence. The Sacramento Bee's All-Metro Offensive Player of the Year, Graves rushed for a Sacramento area best 2,783 yards on 318 carries and scored 39 touchdowns. He saved his best for last, rushing for 302 yards and three scores in Whitney's 35-14 section championship win over Placer. For his career, Graves has run for 4,218 yards on 542 carries with 56 touchdowns. He'll play at Montana next year.


If this report is wrong then I APOLOGIZE. But my point is that we don't want our best big sky prospects to go to other big sky schools and we have to try and get as many locals into the program as possible.
I'm not saying Sperbeck isn't going to do this.
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I completely agree with you about keeping locals here as much as possible, however, we aren't going to normally get kids that have an opportunity to go to Pac 10, MWC or WAC conferences, so I'm hoping we aren't setting that expectation.

That being said, the staff has actually been competing for these types of kids, which wasn't even tried in the Moose years, so its great they are stepping up to the plate. I think people will be surprised at the quality of this recruiting class. I guess we'll find out in just over a week.
 
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