Sperbeck, UNEXPECTED DEPARTURE

[Oldhornet23]

Let's not compare a HS coach to college. Not one of those Folsom QB have been successful when they left. Plus when they do play De la sale they get smoked. He is a good coach but from Folsom HS to college could be much and just because you played in NFL for a little while doesn't mean anything.

See what happens with Sears this year, if they are 6-5 again. Go get a better coach. Someone that wants to be a HC.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Sperbeck not wanting to fundraise is a joke. Dinner under the lights, football camps stuff that never happen before. Sperbeck did something wrong for sure. We do not know what that is, he for sure did not do it alone. If you are allowing it to happen you are at fault.

I am talking about buddying up with deep pocket boosters to get a stadium project started, not talking about Girl Scout cookie bake off' type of fundraising. Ault did it at Reno. Sweeney did it at Fresno, Read did it at Montana.

 

[Green Laser]

Green Laser...your boy hired all of those assistants (some of them came in with him from Foothill) then turned around and fired them because the program couldn't get past the 6-win level. If they weren't quality assistants he should have been fired for poor judgement. It's all a moot point now because he screwed things up badly enough to feel compelled to quit or get fired.

If he hired them and they didn't perform to his expectations it's his option (and responsibility) to fire them.
Would you have preferred him to hang on to coaches that weren't working out regardless like clueless Volek did?

We don't know exactly what violations or complaints where contained in the 10 page letter. or what gutless anonymous coward wrote it. We as supporters of the program deserve to know both facts. I suspect it was a combination personality issues maybe some minor violations and payback for getting fired. Prime suspects are some of the last fired that may have recent knowledge of the situation. I know one just landed at ARC with the other whiner so they can commiserate with each other.
If there were NCAA violations, they should be acknowledged and resolved. Likewise personality issues.
To level charges anonymously is the lowest for of cowardice.
Unless the writer is exposed and his motives examined I would never support any of the ex-assistants ever returning to the program regardless of who the head coach is.

 

[superhornet]

"Clueless" Volek? Hardly. That particular moniker ought to be reserved for Mooshagian, who took a pretty decent program on the cusp of greatness and dragged it into the gutter.

Just my opinion, of course. Nobody's obliged to agree with it. The disagreement DOES make for "good radio," as they say....

 

[josephpoint]

curious about the fear around Sac State having issues like Portland State. PSU has 4,000 students in dorms with an off campus football stadium and near the bottom in attendance . and Sac State has 1,600 in dorms and yet Sac State remains the 3rd highest year in and ear out in attendance at football games. And our on campus housing will be growing soon and many students living around campus in privately owned complexes. Sac State is way behind the Montana schools in attendance but remains the best of the rest in the Big sky in terms of football attendance. Heck , we probably have the smallest on campus population in the big Sky . But we have a huge population full of Sac State alum and casual fans hungry for a winning FCS program. Plus Sac State sponsores 21 sports, 6 more than PSU and all other all sport BSC schools.

 

[Green Laser]

"Clueless" Volek? Hardly. That particular moniker ought to be reserved for Mooshagian, who took a pretty decent program on the cusp of greatness and dragged it into the gutter.

Just my opinion, of course. Nobody's obliged to agree with it. The disagreement DOES make for "good radio," as they say....

There would have never been a clueless Mooshagain without a clueless Volek preceding him.
You seem to forget the embarrassing issues with the players, dope smoking at EWU, Pam Gate etc.
He also had trouble pulling the trigger on assistants when necessary. Volek was a nice enough guy but as a administrator of the program he was a failure.

 

[OldSchoolHornet]

Green Lazer you talk $#it anomalously on this site all the time...how is that different?

 

[HornetHope]

"Clueless" Volek? Hardly. That particular moniker ought to be reserved for Mooshagian, who took a pretty decent program on the cusp of greatness and dragged it into the gutter.

Just my opinion, of course. Nobody's obliged to agree with it. The disagreement DOES make for "good radio," as they say....

Moose was an idiot. Anybody thar spent more time coaching how to celebrate a TD, tackle for loss, etc is a special kind of stupid. I would put Moose on the Darwin coaches award list.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Let's not compare a HS coach to college.

Why not? You do realize that a lot of successful college coaches came via the HS route? Look no futher than Gus Malzahn, currently Auburn's HC, who was a long time HS head coach and Jeremy Pruitt, who just won a National title as Florida State's defensive coordinator. Pruitt's defense last season was ranked in the top 3 in the Nation in every major statistical category.

Point is, a coach should not be overlooked simply because they've only coached in HS (Btw, Taylor does have 5 years assistant coaching experience at the D1 FBS level). I just cited two recent, relevant examples from BIG time D1 FBS programs. There are many, many more out there.

Not one of those Folsom QB have been successful when they left.

That's not entirely true. Cary Grossart has enjoyed a fairly successful career at NAU. We have no idea yet how Jake Browning is going to turnout at Washington, but he's certainly been Taylor's most sought after recruit. Even Alabama recruited him. And you're not even considering all the non-Folsom, local area QB's he has tutored over the years.

Regardless, you're missing the point. Taylor took undersized kids, such as Dano Graves and Tanner Trosin, and developed them into elite HS QB's that landed D1 scholarships. The fact that they've yet to make a mark at that level doesn't matter. It's a testament to Taylor's coaching ability that he was able to get them to overachieve beyond their physical limitations. Every QB he's coached at Folsom has landed a D1 scholarship. That should tell you something. The guy knows how to develop QB's .. Pure and simple.

Plus when they do play De la sale they get smoked.

Again, what does this matter? De La Salle has been smoking every single NorCal team for the past 22 years. They haven't lost even one game during that time (247-0-2). Since 1979, that program has only lost 26 games period (413-26-3). The game they lost last December to snap a string of 4 consecutive Open State Championships came at the hands of a St. John Bosco team that many insiders claim to be the best HS team that SoCal has ever produced.

Troy Taylor is among a myriad of great coaches and players that haven't been able to solve the De La Salle puzzle. That's in no way a knock on his abilities.

He is a good coach but from Folsom HS to college could be much and just because you played in NFL for a little while doesn't mean anything.

Correct, playing in the NFL doesn't at all mean that you'll be a successful coach .. even at the HS level. But having a successful college career at a big name school, as well as playing in the NFL, does give Taylor some experience and insight that not every coach has. What you also don't seem to be aware about is that Taylor was a graduate assistant at the University of Colorado in the mid-90's and an assistant coach at Cal for 4 years in the late 90's. He has D1 coaching experience at prominent programs.

Couple that with what he's done at the HS level and you come up with a qualified candidate. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Green Laser]

Green Lazer you talk $#it anomalously on this site all the time...how is that different?

The difference of course is that everyone on this board is anomalous and free to express their opinion.
Others also anomalous are free to discuss, agree or disagree with the post.

In this case the person(s) responsible for the 10 page letter of accusations and it's distribution to the Media, NCAA and the University remains anonymous while making serious charges against a specific person.
The last I heard you have a right to stand up to your accusers.
If this person knew of specific violations affecting the program the proper course would have been to present them to the administration and ask them to resolve them. If you think you are acting in the best interest of the program why not identify yourself and take credit?
This has personal vendetta written all over it. If that is the case any AD or Head Coach would be crazy to invite such a weasel into their program.

 

[HornetHope]

Green Lazer you talk $#it anomalously on this site all the time...how is that different?

The difference of course is that everyone on this board is anomalous and free to express their opinion.
Others also anomalous are free to discuss, agree or disagree with the post.

In this case the person(s) responsible for the 10 page letter of accusations and it's distribution to the Media, NCAA and the University remains anonymous while making serious charges against a specific person.
The last I heard you have a right to stand up to your accusers.
If this person knew of specific violations affecting the program the proper course would have been to present them to the administration and ask them to resolve them. If you think you are acting in the best interest of the program why not identify yourself and take credit?
This has personal vendetta written all over it. If that is the case any AD or Head Coach would be crazy to invite such a weasel into their program.

ChiCity questioned why I thought it was Parker. Hmmm, Voisin said the letter contained accusations that recruiting calls were made longer than allowed, people were working hours even when they were not on staff, and alluded that this was recent. I could be wrong, but that would be anomalous.

 

[The Green Hornet]

Hey, I can accept this conspiracy theory of "dumping" the football program after this season.

Let's see: we can't raise enough funding for an events center and/or stadium renovation, so eliminate a need to fix up the stadium. Take the money from the football program over the next several years and use it all towards an events center. We'll be kicked out of the Big Sky then, so travel costs should drop too as we'll probably play hoops in the Big West. Once the events center is built, we become the Gonzaga of the Big West.

Not a bad plan.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Hey, I can accept this conspiracy theory of "dumping" the football program after this season.

Let's see: we can't raise enough funding for an events center and/or stadium renovation, so eliminate a need to fix up the stadium. Take the money from the football program over the next several years and use it all towards an events center. We'll be kicked out of the Big Sky then, so travel costs should drop too as we'll probably play hoops in the Big West. Once the events center is built, we become the Gonzaga of the Big West.

Not a bad plan.

Long Beach, Fullerton, Northridge, Pacific, they really are Gonzaga''s too.

Not a good plan. :tothehand:

 

[OldSchoolHornet]

Lazer...if you knew of violations and knew bringing them up to Wanless would ultimately cost you your job would you still have come forward?

I don't believe for one second the impetus of this letter came from a single entity. I think it came from multiple people who are ex-players and/or were fired and now have nothing to lose by exposing Sperbeck. The bottom line is if he was running a clean program they would have had nothing to report.

I assure you there are people outside the athletic program who know exactly why his tenure ended abruptly and there is more to it than a ten page letter.

 

[Hornetof88]

Wouldn't put it past Parker. He is a bad coach and a back stabber. He is the one that forced out Baiz and Osterhout because they were better coaches than him. Maybe he thinks that he can be the DC again. Remember this was a guy that was nothing more than student coach at Del Oro and Boise St.

 

[OldSchoolHornet]

Parker is at best an adequate DB position coach. But, Sperbeck, in all of his infinite wisdom, released the two best assistants on his defensive staff and elevated Parker defensive coordinator in a move that was doomed to failure. I have no idea if Parker has anything to with this situation, but if he does it will be nothing more than Karma biting Sperbeck on the ass.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

With multiple 6-5,5-6 seasons EVERYBODY on staff was mediocre at best.

What about the 11,500 attendance strategic plan goals? Who is in charge of attendance numbers?

 

[Oldhornet23]

Lets not go that far and say they were the best coaches on staff. If they were that good they would not be at ARC. It's not like they were part of some great winning seasons. Remember they were part of the Mooshagian era as well.

One guy I would like to look at would be Tim Skipper asst HC at Colorado State. Even though he was Mooshagian DC. But has been under two other decent program leaders

 

[Hornet25]

Hey, I can accept this conspiracy theory of "dumping" the football program after this season.

Let's see: we can't raise enough funding for an events center and/or stadium renovation, so eliminate a need to fix up the stadium. Take the money from the football program over the next several years and use it all towards an events center. We'll be kicked out of the Big Sky then, so travel costs should drop too as we'll probably play hoops in the Big West. Once the events center is built, we become the Gonzaga of the Big West.

Not a bad plan.

According to this logic, if I'm having problems paying my rent, and as a result it's harder to buy food for my family, then I should just get rid of my home. Start living out of my car with my family, and then it will be easier to buy them food and clothing.

Or.......I find a way to make more money, keep the home and feed my children. Point is....Sac State needs to find more money instead of quitting. There is no going back after you give up your football program.

 

[Oldhornet23]

Or spend it somewhere else, they stay at hotels for home games, charter 5 flights a year. That would be a start?