The PAC/MWC Dominoes Begin to Fall

[Green Cookie Monster]

If we had ready to go facilities this would be a no brainer.
I am sure MWC is skittish as Joser State promised facility upgrades when they were admitted to MWC and I dont think they have come close to fulfilling these obligations.

Tearing half of their stadium down to build a Costco type building on the other side was not a smart move.

 

[Hornet25]

Yeah. Still think Sac State already made their pitch to the MWC last season and we are in wait and see mode with them.

Nothing much left to vet. She can have Sac State if she wants. There is no leverage except the push for Sac State to get into the PAC-12.

Texas schools are the battle ground right now as those schools appear to have options. Sac doesn't.

 

[Kadeezy]

If we had ready to go facilities this would be a no brainer.
I am sure MWC is skittish as Joser State promised facility upgrades when they were admitted to MWC and I dont think they have come close to fulfilling these obligations.

Tearing half of their stadium down to build a Costco type building on the other side was not a smart move.

Oh, man, the SJSU stadium is so awkward looking and I keep thinking it's half done. We're not ones to talk about how stadiums look on TV, but CEIUSICUSICUI Stadium or whatever it is reminds me of the Portland State baseball field venue.

Hillsboro Stadium - Facilities - Portland State University Athletics

The official facilities page for the Portland State University Vikings

goviks.com

 

[HornetFootballFan]

McFeely: While NDSU tempers FBS chatter, Sacramento State lets 'er rip

Unlike Bison bosses, boosters of California FCS school openly campaigning for spot in higher-level FBS

www.inforum.com

Here's the text for those of you not savvy enough to bypass paywalls...

Get a load of Sacramento State.

Boosters of that school in California's capital city, which is currently a member of the FCS Big Sky Conference, are openly campaigning to get Sac State into the Pac-12. Those doing the campaigning are not officially connected to the school, but ... c'mon.

Local politicians, alums and business owners formed the SAC 12 committee to advocate for the school in hopes it will get an invitation to the famed Pac-12. They are touting strengths in enrollment (30,000), television market size (2.4 million people in the metro, 20th largest TV market in the country) and on-the-field success (consistent top 10 FCS program) while selling the benefits of a move up to the community (national exposure, sports tourism dollars, prestige).

It is, quite starkly, the exact opposite of the approach NDSU is taking. And almost every other school that's wanted to change leagues or levels in recent years. University presidents, athletic directors and conference commissioners like to operate in the shadows on matters of conference realignment.

Sac State's boosters are letting 'er rip.

It seems unlikely a public campaign would sway the Pac-12 into inviting Sac State to join the party. The school's strengths and weaknesses are well-known by those in the league.

What's most interesting is the local sales job informing Sacramento businesses, residents and politicians about the benefits of moving up. There are advantages to being in an FBS conference compared to FCS and the committee is letting the locals know about them.

Larsen and NDSU are walking a delicate line when it comes to FBS. Understood. They don't want to be loud for reasons we've outlined. But they'd benefit from being better at public relations. Let fans and boosters know the upside to being FBS. Let them know NDSU is one of the few land-grant universities that's not already FBS. Let them know the Bison could get more games against the big boys from big conferences.

Let them know the good stuff.

There are things to sell here.

There are things about which to get excited.

Sacramento State's attention blitz isn't NDSU's style. We get it. But maybe just a little of that chutzpah couldn't hurt?

McFeely: While NDSU tempers FBS chatter, Sacramento State lets 'er rip

Unlike Bison bosses, boosters of California FCS school openly campaigning for spot in higher-level FBS

www.inforum.com

Here's the text for those of you not savvy enough to bypass paywalls...

Get a load of Sacramento State.

Boosters of that school in California's capital city, which is currently a member of the FCS Big Sky Conference, are openly campaigning to get Sac State into the Pac-12. Those doing the campaigning are not officially connected to the school, but ... c'mon.

Local politicians, alums and business owners formed the SAC 12 committee to advocate for the school in hopes it will get an invitation to the famed Pac-12. They are touting strengths in enrollment (30,000), television market size (2.4 million people in the metro, 20th largest TV market in the country) and on-the-field success (consistent top 10 FCS program) while selling the benefits of a move up to the community (national exposure, sports tourism dollars, prestige).

It is, quite starkly, the exact opposite of the approach NDSU is taking. And almost every other school that's wanted to change leagues or levels in recent years. University presidents, athletic directors and conference commissioners like to operate in the shadows on matters of conference realignment.

Sac State's boosters are letting 'er rip.

It seems unlikely a public campaign would sway the Pac-12 into inviting Sac State to join the party. The school's strengths and weaknesses are well-known by those in the league.

What's most interesting is the local sales job informing Sacramento businesses, residents and politicians about the benefits of moving up. There are advantages to being in an FBS conference compared to FCS and the committee is letting the locals know about them.

Larsen and NDSU are walking a delicate line when it comes to FBS. Understood. They don't want to be loud for reasons we've outlined. But they'd benefit from being better at public relations. Let fans and boosters know the upside to being FBS. Let them know NDSU is one of the few land-grant universities that's not already FBS. Let them know the Bison could get more games against the big boys from big conferences.

Let them know the good stuff.

There are things to sell here.

There are things about which to get excited.

Sacramento State's attention blitz isn't NDSU's style. We get it. But maybe just a little of that chutzpah couldn't hurt?

Good News is we don’t care about Dakota School strategy.
Speed of business happens at different speeds geographically in our nation.
They have a great football team. That’s it! Nothing more! No TV market, No convenient geographical connection to PAC or MWC. They are in a jam unless they find 2 million new residents that like sports.

 

[Super Hornet 2.0]

On the one hand, GCM is probably correct about the facilities. However, memories of my '95 road game at SJSU's stadium are a field in a bad condition. Seating was decent, but the field was bad. Hornet Stadium is quite the opposite: a rather nice field, but erector-set stands and no legit heads. That will have to be addressed QUICK if EITHER the Pac-6 or the MWC were to accept us. The SJSU-Sac game on TruTV this year, though, shows that the Spartans DID get their field fixed. If they can, so can we.

As you all know, I'm generally against this for the reasons I mentioned before. SD said my views were based on an older paradigm, and there's probably something to his argument. However, a lot of my concerns would be alleviated were we to get into the future Pac-6 with enough other teams to guarantee that the conference retains P-5 status. It's playoff viability I'm looking for: G-5 conferences really don't have that, even under the 12-team bracket. (I still hesitate to call it a playoff because not every conference that would choose to participate has an auto-bid.) If the playoff goes to 16 or 24 with auto-bids for everyone (I presume that there won't be FBS conferences screwing around like the Ivy League, the MEAC, and the SWAC), my qualms would completely disappear whether we get Pac-6, MWC, or even the one of the large-footprint G5 leagues. (Naturally, though, even if that DOES happen, just for footprint purposes, I'd prefer the Pac or the MWC.)