HeavyistheClown
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Just like Elk Grove, Roseville, Rancho Cordova, etc. the actual city of Sacramento is not that big without the burbs.
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The PAC/MWC Dominoes Begin to Fall
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Not a fan of the FBS Indy route but if that is what it takes, then so be it. I have no problem with Dr. Wood shooting his shot rather than continue to wither away in the FCS in a garbage conference with schools we have nothing in common with other than sponsoring FCS football.
A few thoughts:
Again, kudos to Dr. Wood on finding another bucket of money to pilfer. We saw him do it with The Well Inc.'s bucket of money to renovate the Well to create Hornet Pavilion and we are seeing him do it again with ASI's bucket of money to cover half of the NCAA FBS fee. Hate on Dr. Wood's vision for the university all you want but that mofo is pulling whatever levers he can to make it happen. Plenty of his predecessors have talked the talk, but he has been the only one with the balls to walk the walk. Major hat tip to him. I trust Dr. Wood will find the other $2.5M for the FBS fee somewhere else.
Interesting to see what comes from Dr. Wood's meeting with the NCAA President. The NCAA has never been weaker so I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Wood walked away with an exemption to either the timeline, the fee, or both for our FBS ambitions. The State of CA is always happy to levy a lawsuit against someone/something and hopefully Dr. Wood reminded President Baker of this state's lawsuit happy nature. The last thing the NCAA needs right now is another lawsuit.
Both the Big West and Big Sky are garbage conferences. Neither are noteworthy and we are only in the BSC because most of the BW members don't have the balls to sponsor football. I hate both of those conferences for various reasons, that said the BW sponsors sports that are more inline with ours. Here are some positives that come to mind with BW membership: A conference with a true regional membership. This will result in significant time and monetary savings in addition to better recruitment for the oly sports. This move will deprive the BSC of their lone CA member. While they probably won't openly admit it, losing their only presence in the Golden State will make recruiting to the mountain time zone all that much more challenging and I look forward to the BSC's membership withering further away under this scenario.
The complaints and comments about the NIL money being real or not is comical. I always viewed those as nothing more than pledges contingent on PAC/FBS happening, not sure why people are insinuating that the pledged money is already available. I mean, sure, some of those funds could be available but it seemed pretty clear that it was contingent on PAC/FBS membership. The fact that none of those businesses/people are even considering throwing that money towards a well established and recently successful FCS program like ours tells you all you need to know about why Dr. Wood is making this play for FBS status.
Lastly, if PAC membership is happening in a few years then a play at FBS Indy status gives the PAC cover in that they can claim that they didn't add an FCS program. Pretty weak but given the egos that were crushed with the PAC implosion I wouldn't be surprised that this is a real concern the PAC leaders have.
Dr. Wood is going all in on this FBS move and I respect him for going for it. He has my unwavering support in this effort.
A few thoughts:
Again, kudos to Dr. Wood on finding another bucket of money to pilfer. We saw him do it with The Well Inc.'s bucket of money to renovate the Well to create Hornet Pavilion and we are seeing him do it again with ASI's bucket of money to cover half of the NCAA FBS fee. Hate on Dr. Wood's vision for the university all you want but that mofo is pulling whatever levers he can to make it happen. Plenty of his predecessors have talked the talk, but he has been the only one with the balls to walk the walk. Major hat tip to him. I trust Dr. Wood will find the other $2.5M for the FBS fee somewhere else.
Interesting to see what comes from Dr. Wood's meeting with the NCAA President. The NCAA has never been weaker so I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Wood walked away with an exemption to either the timeline, the fee, or both for our FBS ambitions. The State of CA is always happy to levy a lawsuit against someone/something and hopefully Dr. Wood reminded President Baker of this state's lawsuit happy nature. The last thing the NCAA needs right now is another lawsuit.
Both the Big West and Big Sky are garbage conferences. Neither are noteworthy and we are only in the BSC because most of the BW members don't have the balls to sponsor football. I hate both of those conferences for various reasons, that said the BW sponsors sports that are more inline with ours. Here are some positives that come to mind with BW membership: A conference with a true regional membership. This will result in significant time and monetary savings in addition to better recruitment for the oly sports. This move will deprive the BSC of their lone CA member. While they probably won't openly admit it, losing their only presence in the Golden State will make recruiting to the mountain time zone all that much more challenging and I look forward to the BSC's membership withering further away under this scenario.
The complaints and comments about the NIL money being real or not is comical. I always viewed those as nothing more than pledges contingent on PAC/FBS happening, not sure why people are insinuating that the pledged money is already available. I mean, sure, some of those funds could be available but it seemed pretty clear that it was contingent on PAC/FBS membership. The fact that none of those businesses/people are even considering throwing that money towards a well established and recently successful FCS program like ours tells you all you need to know about why Dr. Wood is making this play for FBS status.
Lastly, if PAC membership is happening in a few years then a play at FBS Indy status gives the PAC cover in that they can claim that they didn't add an FCS program. Pretty weak but given the egos that were crushed with the PAC implosion I wouldn't be surprised that this is a real concern the PAC leaders have.
Dr. Wood is going all in on this FBS move and I respect him for going for it. He has my unwavering support in this effort.
In my view it is a lot harder to build a successful athletic program in the Cal State System. San Jose State, Sac State, CSUN, Long Beach State are just a few examples of schools that enrollment numbers and media markets that should support at solid mid major basketball and decent G6 football programs. CSUN and Long Beach State dropped football. Utah Valley was a juco not to long ago and now has a better basketball team than most of those schools.
Green Laser
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There is a difference between the Cal State schools that you mentioned and those that have been successful, Fresno State and San Diego State.
San Jose, Northridge, Long Beach and I'll throw in Fullerton are all in a market with multiple established, historically strong D1 programs.
San Jose is in the shadow of Stanford and Cal, the Southern California schools in the shadow of USC and UCLA.
None of those schools ever had a serious chance of becoming their market's dominate team.
Sacramento State like Fresno State and San Diego State are similar in that they have their markets to themselves, with no other FBS schools.
Of the three Sacramento with the 20th media market in the nation is the largest and growing.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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No doubt. But most those suburbs are in the same county and the same side of the Sacramento River.
Sac State is closer and the more identifiable metro area university. It carries the "Sacramento" name.
All things considered, it has more advantages wrt fan support.
