Wk3 Prediction Thread EWU 24 @ Wazzu 59

[FormerEag]

Eags 45 Koogs 34

 

[60s Savage]

Eagles: 54
Cougars: 27

 

[clawman1]

welcome wsufan97, I'm sure you'll get plenty of questions. I see your D has only given up 157 yard average in yards first two games. Leach surely expects EWU to get more than that considering EWU had over 600 yards in offense last we played against what was hailed as a really good WSU D.. I don't expect getting close to that but EWU will get plenty of yards and pts. Question is after watching EWU do you see a shootout on the horizon? Also, if you have a running QB who is his backup(EWU knocked out NAU's great QB 1st qtr.)?

He is actually not a running QB, but has the ability to escape, more like a Baker Mayfield type guy who can make stuff happen, we are just not used to that. I would be a 3rd year junior if he went down.

The OL has done very well the first 2 weeks and I think they are close to gelling. They are just so big and athletic, Leach can recruit lineman. The left tackle will play on Sundays. If they can get the run game going a little better WSU's 2 primary backs are legit. They were big time recruited kids, and can't wait to see them when they get going on a good day.

Defense we shall see(both teams were awful), but the thing about them is flat recruited out speed the past 4 years(there are two LB who were sprinters in HS, one kid ran a 10.44 100 in Cali, that's gross) These are kids like the Palouse Posse had back 25 years ago, rangy kids who they moved up positions from HS, Safeties to LB and LB to DE, DE to tackles. 6 3 and 6 4 nickle backs and the DE are all 6 3 to 6 5 225 to 240 and come off the edges like a fright train, Eastern's tackles better be quick.

The DB's are good lots of depth and tons of starts there, an the LB are by far the best group on the defense.

The WR are about 12 deep and they are tall and long on the outside and small and lightning quick on the inside. It is type of group Leach has wanted since he has been here. He has said all summer he thinks this could be his best offensive group he has had, so we shall see.

WSU has recruited better than they have constantly that I can ever remember and they have a program now, Leach has done a hell of a job.

Hell, we might as well forfeit and avoid an embarrassment

 

[IdaEag92]

Their is one thing that I absolutely respect about the Eagles, They are not afraid to scrap with anyone!Don't know what will happen, it will definitely be like calling out a 160 lb Army Ranger,your going to get your nose bloody!

 

[93bird]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

 

[talon38]

All I know, which isn’t much, this will be the toughest game thus far for the Cougars! EWU does have the better QB, which is is huge, plus the 28 seniors that were in the game in 2016, who WON. I like our chances!,,,, GO EAGS.......!!!!!!!

 

[EWURanger]

Their is one thing that I absolutely respect about the Eagles, They are not afraid to scrap with anyone!Don't know what will happen, it will definitely be like calling out a 160 lb Army Ranger,your going to get your nose bloody!

:thumb:

 

[luckyintheorder]

This is now the Bravado thread. So many positive waves.

Hate that it is only Tuesday

Anyone have any injury updates? Custer?

The WSU fan's analysis of the state of their football team is spot on. This will be a very tough contest. Hope the fans at the game are treated to an Eag victory.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDtq7E0Lk8[/media]

 

[clawman1]

All I know, which isn’t much, this will be the toughest game thus far for the Cougars! EWU does have the better QB, which is is huge, plus the 28 seniors that were in the game in 2016, who WON. I like our chances!,,,, GO EAGS.......!!!!!!!

It appears to me our O-line is really coming together so Gage will be able to do what he does. A lot bears on how the wide receivers do to give Gage targets.

 

[IdaEag92]

Never looking past anyone, hope the Batalion Comander lays in enough shells for the 105,on homecomming!

 

[LDopaPDX]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

You need a rethink. No WSU coach has ever taken the Cougs to 3 straight bowls, which Leach has. Plus, you have to remember how pitiful the Coug program was when he got there. It may have been the biggest mess of the BCS.

This is a Coug down year, and they still should wind up in a bowl. In previous Coug down years, the final record would be 2-10 or thereabouts. While the ceiling hasn't changed much (there were always random years when the Cougs were really good), he's reset the floor to a much higher standard.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

You need a rethink. No WSU coach has ever taken the Cougs to 3 straight bowls, which Leach has. Plus, you have to remember how pitiful the Coug program was when he got there. It may have been the biggest mess of the BCS.

This is a Coug down year, and they still should wind up in a bowl. In previous Coug down years, the final record would be 2-10 or thereabouts. While the ceiling hasn't changed much (there were always random years when the Cougs were really good), he's reset the floor to a much higher standard.

Exactly. I was about to say, everything is relative. .500 is a pretty good for the Cougs, historically. :lol:

 

[93bird]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

You need a rethink. No WSU coach has ever taken the Cougs to 3 straight bowls, which Leach has. Plus, you have to remember how pitiful the Coug program was when he got there. It may have been the biggest mess of the BCS.

This is a Coug down year, and they still should wind up in a bowl. In previous Coug down years, the final record would be 2-10 or thereabouts. While the ceiling hasn't changed much (there were always random years when the Cougs were really good), he's reset the floor to a much higher standard.

Exactly. I was about to say, everything is relative. .500 is a pretty good for the Cougs, historically. :lol:

OK. I've rethought. Same outcome. Maybe I'm thinking of a different coach. The Mike Leach I'm thinking of coaches a team picked fifth in the PAC12 North this year, has lost to UW 5 straight seasons, lost a bowl game to a Minnesota team missing half its players, and got beat by FCS teams in back to back home openers. Is this the same guy who makes $3.5m per year? If so, I apologize for my unrealistic expectations.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Not a very inciteful. Here is it all the same.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/sep/09/first-look-eastern-washington-at-washington-state/

 

[GSmith42]

Eags 35 Cougs 32

 

[LDopaPDX]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

You need a rethink. No WSU coach has ever taken the Cougs to 3 straight bowls, which Leach has. Plus, you have to remember how pitiful the Coug program was when he got there. It may have been the biggest mess of the BCS.

This is a Coug down year, and they still should wind up in a bowl. In previous Coug down years, the final record would be 2-10 or thereabouts. While the ceiling hasn't changed much (there were always random years when the Cougs were really good), he's reset the floor to a much higher standard.

Exactly. I was about to say, everything is relative. .500 is a pretty good for the Cougs, historically. :lol:

OK. I've rethought. Same outcome. Maybe I'm thinking of a different coach. The Mike Leach I'm thinking of coaches a team picked fifth in the PAC12 North this year, has lost to UW 5 straight seasons, lost a bowl game to a Minnesota team missing half its players, and got beat by FCS teams in back to back home openers. Is this the same guy who makes $3.5m per year? If so, I apologize for my unrealistic expectations.

Whether he's worth $3.5mm or not is a valid question... That's about Eastern's entire football ops budget.

But, remember, the guy he took over for was 9-40 over four seasons and only managed to win four conference games during his entire tenure. The Cougs had descended from being a decent, scrappy- although very inconsistent- program in the late 90s and early 2000s to something akin to University of Kansas. WSU has not been as consistent as they are today at any point in history. He's paid what he's paid to make WSU a legitimate football program, and in that regard, he's been successful.

 

[EagInTexas]

EWU 38 WSU 32

 

[wsufan97]

welcome wsufan97, I'm sure you'll get plenty of questions. I see your D has only given up 157 yard average in yards first two games. Leach surely expects EWU to get more than that considering EWU had over 600 yards in offense last we played against what was hailed as a really good WSU D.. I don't expect getting close to that but EWU will get plenty of yards and pts. Question is after watching EWU do you see a shootout on the horizon? Also, if you have a running QB who is his backup(EWU knocked out NAU's great QB 1st qtr.)?

He is actually not a running QB, but has the ability to escape, more like a Baker Mayfield type guy who can make stuff happen, we are just not used to that. I would be a 3rd year junior if he went down.

The OL has done very well the first 2 weeks and I think they are close to gelling. They are just so big and athletic, Leach can recruit lineman. The left tackle will play on Sundays. If they can get the run game going a little better WSU's 2 primary backs are legit. They were big time recruited kids, and can't wait to see them when they get going on a good day.

Defense we shall see(both teams were awful), but the thing about them is flat recruited out speed the past 4 years(there are two LB who were sprinters in HS, one kid ran a 10.44 100 in Cali, that's gross) These are kids like the Palouse Posse had back 25 years ago, rangy kids who they moved up positions from HS, Safeties to LB and LB to DE, DE to tackles. 6 3 and 6 4 nickle backs and the DE are all 6 3 to 6 5 225 to 240 and come off the edges like a fright train, Eastern's tackles better be quick.

The DB's are good lots of depth and tons of starts there, an the LB are by far the best group on the defense.

The WR are about 12 deep and they are tall and long on the outside and small and lightning quick on the inside. It is type of group Leach has wanted since he has been here. He has said all summer he thinks this could be his best offensive group he has had, so we shall see.

WSU has recruited better than they have constantly that I can ever remember and they have a program now, Leach has done a hell of a job.

Hell, we might as well forfeit and avoid an embarrassment

Hey just giving you what I see as a team through the first 2 games. The Baker Mayfeild comment was generalized as he is about the same height weight and running ability, hell even speaks like him. He is not Baker Mayfield) i am not an idiot).

 

[wsufan97]

Mike Leach has a 40-38 record at Washington State, and 1 awful bowl win in 7 years. Nothing on his WSU resume says hell of a job to me.

You need a rethink. No WSU coach has ever taken the Cougs to 3 straight bowls, which Leach has. Plus, you have to remember how pitiful the Coug program was when he got there. It may have been the biggest mess of the BCS.

This is a Coug down year, and they still should wind up in a bowl. In previous Coug down years, the final record would be 2-10 or thereabouts. While the ceiling hasn't changed much (there were always random years when the Cougs were really good), he's reset the floor to a much higher standard.

Exactly. I was about to say, everything is relative. .500 is a pretty good for the Cougs, historically. :lol:

OK. I've rethought. Same outcome. Maybe I'm thinking of a different coach. The Mike Leach I'm thinking of coaches a team picked fifth in the PAC12 North this year, has lost to UW 5 straight seasons, lost a bowl game to a Minnesota team missing half its players, and got beat by FCS teams in back to back home openers. Is this the same guy who makes $3.5m per year? If so, I apologize for my unrealistic expectations.

WSU was the worst Power 5 football program from 2004-2012 the year he arrived, that is no joke, WSU was an absolute crap show. Leach had a total and complete rebuild on his hands from the ground up. For those of us who follow the program closely, we knew this was the god's honest truth. Wulff left it an absolute disaster, I wouldn't have taken the job and I love my school.

WSU had the fewest wins in the country from 2004-2012 with 36. The team he inherited was littered with FCS talent, and poor FSC talent to boot, thanks to Wulff's horrendous recruiting. If you can find it go back an look at the roster from Leach's 1st year and it is just an embarrassment, I can't ever begin to think of how bad the talent was. 3 kids off that entire team would play this Saturday, that's it. He booted so many kids off for team rule offenses in the 1st 6 months it was just insane, and those were not even the kids who were arrested. I think he kicked about 20 kids of the team that year, it was a mess.

It was cleaned up his 2nd year some, but rumors were rampant among those of us with connections to folks near the program major of the tension in the locker room. They made a bowl and a lot of that was due to the influx of JC kids who he brought in as they were in their 2nd season. But the next year was tough as Leach did not go for a quick fix, he was in it to build a program.

After those JC kids were gone in year three, they were now playing all Leach's kids but they were True Freshman, RS Freshman, RS sophomores and true Juniors. It really was year one of Leach's program with his recruits. You can't win in HS playing that many young kids, you go to Chiawana with a team like that and they will come back in bags. They were a young inexperienced and went 3-9.

WSU won 12 games in Leach's 1st three seasons and the last 3 have won 28 including the 2 this season and had a chance to secure a PAC 12 north title 2 of the last three seasons. From what he inherited to what we have now our fans feel like we landed on the moon Oh and on losing to UW, I don't have a damn clue.

 

[BornCoug]

Cougar fan here. Looking forward to the game this Saturday.

A couple things I thought about looking through the thread. First, there were a lot of Cougar fans who were concerned going into the game in 2016 against EWU. I was definitely one of those fans! While a lot of "us" might expect a win there's definitely a lot of respect for the EWU program. Second, for the most part on the Cougar sites I have been on the expectation is for a tight game this year as well. I have also seen some ask why we play this game in the first place instead of a team that's an "easy" win (FCS or FBS).

Anyway, it should be a good one. Someone in this thread suggested EWU would be the best offense WSU has faced this year. I don't even think it's really even close. EWU is by far the best offense WSU has faced the first 3 of the season and I actual think it's definitely possible EWU is as big a challenge as SC and bigger than Utah in games 4 and 5.