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2015-16 Schedule

In fairness, maybe you shouldn't argue based on the power ranking of a single season, that everyone agrees was a bad one. At the same, I know you want to keep the argument current and relevant but I believe there is some of both going on. There are certainly challenges in scheduling D1 teams to come to Ogden and call it what you want, but some don't see a benefit to playing here (i.e. afraid of a loss.) I also don't believe for a second that's it's not possible to upgrade the dismal home schedule at the DEC to include respectable teams from respective conferences. The NCAA isn't likely to grow a pair and force all teams to travel so non-money schools, once again, are at a disadvantage.

http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1256671" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
SWWeatherCat said:
In fairness, maybe you shouldn't argue based on the power ranking of a single season, that everyone agrees was a bad one. At the same, I know you want to keep the argument current and relevant but I believe there is some of both going on. There are certainly challenges in scheduling D1 teams to come to Ogden and call it what you want, but some don't see a benefit to playing here (i.e. afraid of a loss.) I also don't believe for a second that's it's not possible to upgrade the dismal home schedule at the DEC to include respectable teams from respective conferences. The NCAA isn't likely to grow a pair and force all teams to travel so non-money schools, once again, are at a disadvantage.

http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1256671" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Isn't the most recent year what ADs and Coaches would use as they look to put together next year's schedule? I respect your position, but disagree Weber is a program that other teams fear. I look at the teams ranked above us and its apparent that we've fallen down the charts more than a little.
 
youngguns said:
SWWeatherCat said:
In fairness, maybe you shouldn't argue based on the power ranking of a single season, that everyone agrees was a bad one. At the same, I know you want to keep the argument current and relevant but I believe there is some of both going on. There are certainly challenges in scheduling D1 teams to come to Ogden and call it what you want, but some don't see a benefit to playing here (i.e. afraid of a loss.) I also don't believe for a second that's it's not possible to upgrade the dismal home schedule at the DEC to include respectable teams from respective conferences. The NCAA isn't likely to grow a pair and force all teams to travel so non-money schools, once again, are at a disadvantage.

http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1256671" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Isn't the most recent year what ADs and Coaches would use as they look to put together next year's schedule? I respect your position, but disagree Weber is a program that other teams fear. I look at the teams ranked above us and its apparent that we've fallen down the charts more than a little.

I agree with SWWeatherCat. Our legacy speaks for itself.
 
Youngguns;

I understand your frustration. We all feel it. Coaches know who's good and who isn't. They have tremendous pressure on them to have winning seasons. I think we will continue to try to get WCC and MWC schools in for home-n-home contracts where we can and sometimes take on a lesser team when need be. Of course they want to win the instate games, and it is great that we continue to have a good relationship with most of the instate schools. Maybe now that Utah is doing better they may want to consider getting together again. It was kind of a chicken crap thing they did when the were truly sucking. :twocents:
 
youngguns said:
SWWeatherCat said:
In fairness, maybe you shouldn't argue based on the power ranking of a single season, that everyone agrees was a bad one. At the same, I know you want to keep the argument current and relevant but I believe there is some of both going on. There are certainly challenges in scheduling D1 teams to come to Ogden and call it what you want, but some don't see a benefit to playing here (i.e. afraid of a loss.) I also don't believe for a second that's it's not possible to upgrade the dismal home schedule at the DEC to include respectable teams from respective conferences. The NCAA isn't likely to grow a pair and force all teams to travel so non-money schools, once again, are at a disadvantage.

http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1256671" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Isn't the most recent year what ADs and Coaches would use as they look to put together next year's schedule? I respect your position, but disagree Weber is a program that other teams fear. I look at the teams ranked above us and its apparent that we've fallen down the charts more than a little.

I didn't say other teams feared Weber, I wouldn't expect any teams to fear others. If they do, then maybe this level of competition is too much for them. However, it is difficult to play in some places and I don't doubt that can factor into some decisions to not be willing play here. Maybe something as simple as altitude could factor into it. At any rate, all I'm saying is historically Weber is considered a respectable program that has experienced much success and if a scheduling decision is on the fence, I doubt many programs will look at Weber as a pushover at the DEC and might possibly shy away. It's interesting the Pukes apperantly fear playing Weber since they still play other BSC teams, or is there some BS explanation for that?

I also said I believe there is plenty of room for improvement with the AD and coaches to stengthen their scheduling and, in turn, elevate the program. I don't think you can pin it all on one thing or the other, but I still maintain you can't look at the current power ranking and make assessments about the program as a whole.
 
oldrunner said:
Youngguns;

I understand your frustration. We all feel it. Coaches know who's good and who isn't. They have tremendous pressure on them to have winning seasons. I think we will continue to try to get WCC and MWC schools in for home-n-home contracts where we can and sometimes take on a lesser team when need be. Of course they want to win the instate games, and it is great that we continue to have a good relationship with most of the instate schools. Maybe now that Utah is doing better they may want to consider getting together again. It was kind of a chicken crap thing they did when the were truly sucking. :twocents:
Thanks.... want to believe that we wouldn't duck competition, but the non conference home game schedule is weak.... maybe this year is the year that we actually play someone, but I wouldn't count on it.

I hate the Utes, but rather go see them play Kansas, Wichita State, UNLV and SDSU, then see Weber play poor Sisters of our Mercy. We talk about these teams and their weak schedules, but they sure look a lot tougher than ours. Utah played FOUR top 20 teams in their OOC schedule, but they're ducking Weber State? I love basketball and I love my school, but would rather see Utah play Kansas, then see Weber play against Presentation College.
We need to step up our game, you guys are great and the forum is awesome, but if you truly believe that other teams are ducking Weber due to our legacy...... i'd like to come over to your house and sell you a bridge that I own a piece of in London.
 
SWWeatherCat said:
youngguns said:
SWWeatherCat said:
In fairness, maybe you shouldn't argue based on the power ranking of a single season, that everyone agrees was a bad one. At the same, I know you want to keep the argument current and relevant but I believe there is some of both going on. There are certainly challenges in scheduling D1 teams to come to Ogden and call it what you want, but some don't see a benefit to playing here (i.e. afraid of a loss.) I also don't believe for a second that's it's not possible to upgrade the dismal home schedule at the DEC to include respectable teams from respective conferences. The NCAA isn't likely to grow a pair and force all teams to travel so non-money schools, once again, are at a disadvantage.

http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1256671" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Isn't the most recent year what ADs and Coaches would use as they look to put together next year's schedule? I respect your position, but disagree Weber is a program that other teams fear. I look at the teams ranked above us and its apparent that we've fallen down the charts more than a little.

I didn't say other teams feared Weber, I wouldn't expect any teams to fear others. If they do, then maybe this level of competition is too much for them. However, it is difficult to play in some places and I don't doubt that can factor into some decisions to not be willing play here. Maybe something as simple as altitude could factor into it. At any rate, all I'm saying is historically Weber is considered a respectable program that has experienced much success and if a scheduling decision is on the fence, I doubt many programs will look at Weber as a pushover at the DEC and might possibly shy away. It's interesting the Pukes apperantly fear playing Weber since they still play other BSC teams, or is there some BS explanation for that?

I also said I believe there is plenty of room for improvement with the AD and coaches to stengthen their scheduling and, in turn, elevate the program. I don't think you can pin it all on one thing or the other, but I still maintain you can't look at the current power ranking and make assessments about the program as a whole.


THERE.....YOU FINALLY ADMIT IT.......IT'S THE ALTITUDE!!!!!!!!! LOL this ought to set you all off again...
 
youngguns said:
oldrunner said:
Youngguns;

I understand your frustration. We all feel it. Coaches know who's good and who isn't. They have tremendous pressure on them to have winning seasons. I think we will continue to try to get WCC and MWC schools in for home-n-home contracts where we can and sometimes take on a lesser team when need be. Of course they want to win the instate games, and it is great that we continue to have a good relationship with most of the instate schools. Maybe now that Utah is doing better they may want to consider getting together again. It was kind of a chicken crap thing they did when the were truly sucking. :twocents:
Thanks.... want to believe that we wouldn't duck competition, but the non conference home game schedule is weak.... maybe this year is the year that we actually play someone, but I wouldn't count on it.

I hate the Utes, but rather go see them play Kansas, Wichita State, UNLV and SDSU, then see Weber play poor Sisters of our Mercy. We talk about these teams and their weak schedules, but they sure look a lot tougher than ours. Utah played FOUR top 20 teams in their OOC schedule, but they're ducking Weber State? I love basketball and I love my school, but would rather see Utah play Kansas, then see Weber play against Presentation College.
We need to step up our game, you guys are great and the forum is awesome, but if you truly believe that other teams are ducking Weber due to our legacy...... i'd like to come over to your house and sell you a bridge that I own a piece of in London.

I want to call you a like puke and ask you how could you turn your back on Weber to go see Kansas play the Utes.... but that sounds like a great game! :lol: :lol: Let me know where you get your tickets!! I love good basketball! I hope that Bovee is starting to figure out that the next generation doesn't have the memories of past Weber State victories. Winning the BSC just isn't enough any more. Is it true that outside of its own tourney a BSC team has never won a tournament? :yikes:
 
Midmajor?? said:
youngguns said:
oldrunner said:
Youngguns;

I understand your frustration. We all feel it. Coaches know who's good and who isn't. They have tremendous pressure on them to have winning seasons. I think we will continue to try to get WCC and MWC schools in for home-n-home contracts where we can and sometimes take on a lesser team when need be. Of course they want to win the instate games, and it is great that we continue to have a good relationship with most of the instate schools. Maybe now that Utah is doing better they may want to consider getting together again. It was kind of a chicken crap thing they did when the were truly sucking. :twocents:
Thanks.... want to believe that we wouldn't duck competition, but the non conference home game schedule is weak.... maybe this year is the year that we actually play someone, but I wouldn't count on it.

I hate the Utes, but rather go see them play Kansas, Wichita State, UNLV and SDSU, then see Weber play poor Sisters of our Mercy. We talk about these teams and their weak schedules, but they sure look a lot tougher than ours. Utah played FOUR top 20 teams in their OOC schedule, but they're ducking Weber State? I love basketball and I love my school, but would rather see Utah play Kansas, then see Weber play against Presentation College.
We need to step up our game, you guys are great and the forum is awesome, but if you truly believe that other teams are ducking Weber due to our legacy...... i'd like to come over to your house and sell you a bridge that I own a piece of in London.

I want to call you a like puke and ask you how could you turn your back on Weber to go see Kansas play the Utes.... but that sounds like a great game! :lol: :lol: Let me know where you get your tickets!! I love good basketball! I hope that Bovee is starting to figure out that the next generation doesn't have the memories of past Weber State victories. Winning the BSC just isn't enough any more. Is it true that outside of its own tourney a BSC team has never won a tournament? :yikes:

True! The BSC has never had a team win a tournament except for its own tournament. The closest ever was Weber's lost to East Carolina.
 
Cats meow! said:
Midmajor?? said:
youngguns said:
oldrunner said:
Youngguns;

I understand your frustration. We all feel it. Coaches know who's good and who isn't. They have tremendous pressure on them to have winning seasons. I think we will continue to try to get WCC and MWC schools in for home-n-home contracts where we can and sometimes take on a lesser team when need be. Of course they want to win the instate games, and it is great that we continue to have a good relationship with most of the instate schools. Maybe now that Utah is doing better they may want to consider getting together again. It was kind of a chicken crap thing they did when the were truly sucking. :twocents:
Thanks.... want to believe that we wouldn't duck competition, but the non conference home game schedule is weak.... maybe this year is the year that we actually play someone, but I wouldn't count on it.

I hate the Utes, but rather go see them play Kansas, Wichita State, UNLV and SDSU, then see Weber play poor Sisters of our Mercy. We talk about these teams and their weak schedules, but they sure look a lot tougher than ours. Utah played FOUR top 20 teams in their OOC schedule, but they're ducking Weber State? I love basketball and I love my school, but would rather see Utah play Kansas, then see Weber play against Presentation College.
We need to step up our game, you guys are great and the forum is awesome, but if you truly believe that other teams are ducking Weber due to our legacy...... i'd like to come over to your house and sell you a bridge that I own a piece of in London.

I want to call you a like puke and ask you how could you turn your back on Weber to go see Kansas play the Utes.... but that sounds like a great game! :lol: :lol: Let me know where you get your tickets!! I love good basketball! I hope that Bovee is starting to figure out that the next generation doesn't have the memories of past Weber State victories. Winning the BSC just isn't enough any more. Is it true that outside of its own tourney a BSC team has never won a tournament? :yikes:

True! The BSC has never had a team win a tournament except for its own tournament. The closest ever was Weber's lost to East Carolina.

This is not true. That statement only applies to post-season tournaments. It is true that Weber State and NAU are the only teams in the Big Sky to make a post-season tournament championship. Big Sky teams have won preseason tournaments (like Weber winning a 2001 preseason tournament in Hawaii by beating LSU, Wisconsin, and Colorado St.).
 
talhadfoursteals said:
GULF COAST SHOWCASE!!

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/12/2/5166356/2015-16-college-basketball-early-season-tournaments-events-MTE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know how accurate this is. But if it is true this is a great tournament to belong to. Drake, Western Kentucky, Duquesne, Pepperdine, and Weber as of right now. It is suppose to be an 8 team tournament. So there are three teams that haven't announced or been selected yet. I've also heard a rumor, so this isn't the best news, that USU is asking Weber to participate in the Gossner Cheese Classic again.

Gulf Coast Showcase, is played in Fort Myers Florida at the Germain Arena that is the home of the Florida Everblades.

From past years the tournament has 8 teams and every team plays three games in four days November 23, 24, and 25.

Teams announced:

CENTRAL MICHIGAN
DRAKE
DUQUESNE
MILWAUKEE
MURRAY STATE
PEPPERDINE
WEBER STATE
WESTERN KENTUCKY
 
http://omahamavsblog.com/2015/04/13/some-teams-and-trips-that-could-make-up-for-an-entertaining-basketball-schedule-in-2015-2016/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

probably a long shot
 
I would love to see us bring Omaha to town. I would prefer the blue school from Omaha but the red one will work.

I would be calling Florida Gulf Coast University to see if they are available the Friday or Saturday before the Gulf Coast Showdown. FGCU is 1 mile up the freeway. Then see if we can get a return game in the next few years.
 
Road Trip!!!

The wife's on board for Florida in November. I'm 99.9% sure that we are going. I'll book it as soon as I can get some more specific info on it. :rockon:
 
Lillardfan said:
http://omahamavsblog.com/2015/04/13/some-teams-and-trips-that-could-make-up-for-an-entertaining-basketball-schedule-in-2015-2016/

probably a long shot

I wouldn't mind if Omaha wanted to make a visit to Weber's Dee this year and Weber return a game to Omaha next year. Could make a nice little trip out of it. Visit Omaha and then play another DI Mid-Major close by. Drake, Northern Iowa, USD, SDSU, or even Missouri Kansas City are all close enough to make a two game road trip feasible. Maybe get another home game out of the arrangement.

Okay...update on next season:
BYU @ ESA
USU @ Dee
UVU in Orem
Gulf Coast Classic 3 games
Portland at the Rose Garden in Far West Classic.
Two beats @ Dee puts us at 9 OOC games. Anyone else I'm missing so far?
 
Lillardfan said:
http://omahamavsblog.com/2015/04/13/some-teams-and-trips-that-could-make-up-for-an-entertaining-basketball-schedule-in-2015-2016/

probably a long shot

This guy is interesting......it's cute how he places UNO and Weber on the same level of college hoops. We had an off year, but please.....
 
Well...just read that USU is playing Duke Nov 29. Great exposure for the Aggies. I hope they represent well and play a competitive game. Also, read that Montana has a really great non-conference schedule shaping up for this fall. Read somewhere that they are scheduled to play Kansas, Boise State, Washington, North Dakota State, and Gonzaga. That is a really great schedule. I hope they really play well and represent the Sky well.
 
So we get South Dakota for football home and home. I wonder if we are even asking about a home and home for basketball?
http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8600&ATCLID=210140187" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 

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