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2015-16 Schedule

webergrad02 said:
So we get South Dakota for football home and home. I wonder if we are even asking about a home and home for basketball?
http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8600&ATCLID=210140187" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From what I understand, the AD puts together football schedules with input from the football coach. While the basketball coach puts together his own schedule. You can call Randy and find out.

Like you, I would hope that he is at least trying to put together a home and home with any DI team, but one never knows. I've heard him say that he and his coaches call practically every DI school looking for games each year. :? Maybe it has something to do with conference reputation??

Weird to think that for football the Sky and MVC are on the same level. For basketball, they aren't. UNI would never visit the Dee. Playing Weber doesn't help their RPI enough, even if they were to win in Ogden, which is extremely tough. So, why make the trip.

Yet, in the case of USD, I think USD is in the summit league. NDSU and SDSU are in the MVC. From memory, I believe that when USD left the Sky at the alter it joined the MVC for football and then all Olympic sports went to the Summit.

I JUST WANT MORE DI GAMES!! Ugh...I can't handle anymore Bristol, St. Katherine, University of the Southwest teams. Ugh
 
talhadfoursteals said:
webergrad02 said:
So we get South Dakota for football home and home. I wonder if we are even asking about a home and home for basketball?
http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8600&ATCLID=210140187" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From what I understand, the AD puts together football schedules with input from the football coach. While the basketball coach puts together his own schedule. You can call Randy and find out.

Like you, I would hope that he is at least trying to put together a home and home with any DI team, but one never knows. I've heard him say that he and his coaches call practically every DI school looking for games each year. :? Maybe it has something to do with conference reputation??

Weird to think that for football the Sky and MVC are on the same level. For basketball, they aren't. UNI would never visit the Dee. Playing Weber doesn't help their RPI enough, even if they were to win in Ogden, which is extremely tough. So, why make the trip.

Yet, in the case of USD, I think USD is in the summit league. NDSU and SDSU are in the MVC. From memory, I believe that when USD left the Sky at the alter it joined the MVC for football and then all Olympic sports went to the Summit.

I JUST WANT MORE DI GAMES!! Ugh...I can't handle anymore Bristol, St. Katherine, University of the Southwest teams. Ugh

Couldn't agree more. Pre-season was lame last year and fan support very weak. Florida tournament should be a lot of fun this year
 
I like all of the tournament and, so far, road games, but the home schedule is looking really bleak. Weber only has 1 DI on schedule right now, and that is USU. I'm preparing myself for two or three really awful home games. I definitely miss the bracket buster. We would be assured two more OOC DI games each year (one being a home game). Now we are stuck with Mother Suzanna's College of Orphaned Gimps on the schedule. Which crap teams will we need to suffer through this season?
 
I read in a Deseret News article that we play Utah State at home on Friday, Nov. 13th. I'm assuming that's the first game of the year. That's the only home game that I know of. I like the other OOC games that I'm aware of.
@ Portland ( Playing where the Blazers play)
@ BYU ( At ESA )
3 games against other mid majors in the Florida tournament before Thanksgiving
@ UVU

I don't want to get my hopes up on the remaining home OOC games, but I'm afraid we will play at least 2 none D1 games. UGGHHHH. :wall:
 
I don't mind these neutral site games, as long as students get in free and both team's season ticketholders have a seat as well. Otherwise it is just an off site home game for one team and a road game for the other.

I will hold judgment until I see what happens at the ESA, against BYU. However, I do think that we will always see at least two non D1 opponents on our OOC schedule. It's not worth complaining about it. Until the NCAA selection committee changes their ways and starts inviting a second BSC school, strength of schedule means nothing to us or the so called power conferences.
 
The schedule should be coming out pretty soon. From what I remember, our schedule, on average, comes out about the middle to end of June. Sometimes early July. We will know soon what to expect.
 
wazzuwildcat03 said:
I read in a Deseret News article that we play Utah State at home on Friday, Nov. 13th. I'm assuming that's the first game of the year. That's the only home game that I know of. I like the other OOC games that I'm aware of.
@ Portland ( Playing where the Blazers play)
@ BYU ( At ESA )
3 games against other mid majors in the Florida tournament before Thanksgiving
@ UVU

I don't want to get my hopes up on the remaining home OOC games, but I'm afraid we will play at least 2 none D1 games. UGGHHHH. :wall:
FGCU has UND and Youngstown St, with one slot open for their pre-Thanksgiving tournament. FGCU can't invite another Big Sky school.

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/12/2/5166356/2015-16-college-basketball-early-season-tournaments-events-MTE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

USD, SDSU, and NDSU are all in the Slummit. They want to be in the MVC for everything, but the MVC only wants them for football and nothing else.
 
Other programs are just like us, they want an attractive schedule that isn't full of "random" garbage teams that are an embarrassment to play, let alone lose to on the road. It's not terribly embarrassing to lose @ Mercer, Bellmont, Davidson, Gonzaga or Depaul. These programs actually have individual identities, besides random state university. But could you imagine losing @ Mercer State, or Bellmont State? People would say, "why the hell are we losing to crappy random teams or even playing them?"

Let's wake up and face it, fans don't get any more excited when the schedule says Webber State than they do when it says Nicoles State. It's just a random noname game to them. Programs want to play road games that are sexy. Mid or high major teams and fans think, "wow, great schedule but why are we playing @Webber State. Wait where the hell is Webber State anyways?" Just like they would if they saw Minot State.

Now if you play at Lamar, Drexel, or Auburn (All programs we out attend and could be considered more successful than), no one bats an eye. Why?? Because these school/programs have an individual perceived identity. Schools that insert state in their name like we did in the 60's when it was cool, basically say, "hey guys, we are small and unknown but don't worry, we added state so atleast you know we are state funded and not online-for/profit. No need to research us and form an individual opinion, just group us with all the other 1000 random you-name-it state universities with 4,300 students." There are literally hundreds but we have 8 times the success/program support and student enrollment as 95% of them. Of course, obviously this doesn't apply if you are named after a major city or the state you are located in since people have heard of the location.

I have said it before and will say it again, we are WEber!!! Not Webber State or whatever. We are a proud, one of a kind program/university, with a long basketball tradition that deserves more respect than our name affords. A schedule which reads Southern Miss, @Weber, @ Purdue, @ NDSU looks much more exciting than Southern Miss, @ Weber State, @ Purdue, @NDSU. I can't process Webber State as anything more than a random schedule filler and I went there for hell sakes. Until we drop state and become the one of a kind university simply known as "Weber", we will always be no different than playing any other random fill in the blank state team. As a result, we will continue to lack the brand recognition which is required to build a sold nonconference schedule.
 
DeeWildcatTailgater said:
Other programs are just like us, they want an attractive schedule that isn't full of "random" garbage teams that are an embarrassment to play, let alone lose to on the road. It's not terribly embarrassing to lose @ Mercer, Bellmont, Davidson, Gonzaga or Depaul. These programs actually have individual identities, besides random state university. But could you imagine losing @ Mercer State, or Bellmont State? People would say, "why the hell are we losing to crappy random teams or even playing them?"

Let's wake up and face it, fans don't get any more excited when the schedule says Webber State than they do when it says Nicoles State. It's just a random noname game to them. Programs want to play road games that are sexy. Mid or high major teams and fans think, "wow, great schedule but why are we playing @Webber State. Wait where the hell is Webber State anyways?" Just like they would if they saw Minot State.

Now if you play at Lamar, Drexel, or Auburn (All programs we out attend and could be considered more successful than), no one bats an eye. Why?? Because these school/programs have an individual perceived identity. Schools that insert state in their name like we did in the 60's when it was cool, basically say, "hey guys, we are small and unknown but don't worry, we added state so atleast you know we are state funded and not online-for/profit. No need to research us and form an individual opinion, just group us with all the other 1000 random you-name-it state universities with 4,300 students." There are literally hundreds but we have 8 times the success/program support and student enrollment as 95% of them. Of course, obviously this doesn't apply if you are named after a major city or the state you are located in since people have heard of the location.

I have said it before and will say it again, we are WEber!!! Not Webber State or whatever. We are a proud, one of a kind program/university, with a long basketball tradition that deserves more respect than our name affords. A schedule which reads Southern Miss, @Weber, @ Purdue, @ NDSU looks much more exciting than Southern Miss, @ Weber State, @ Purdue, @NDSU. I can't process Webber State as anything more than a random schedule filler and I went there for hell sakes. Until we drop state and become the one of a kind university simply known as "Weber", we will always be no different than playing any other random fill in the blank state team. As a result, we will continue to lack the brand recognition which is required to build a sold nonconference schedule.

DeeWildcatTailgater,what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Now that I got my joke out of the way...seriously? "State" is the difference between our basketball program being a badass contender or a community college squad?

Honestly, I feel like a lot of people are still nostalgic for Lillard and feel that because we were lucky to land this one amazing player that obviously we are the next up and coming school that in 10 years will be a major team in March madness.

In reality we are not going anywhere any time soon as much as people would like to think. As long as WSU is primarily a commuter school, we won't get a large enough student fan base for the administration to consider investing in the program to try and get into higher competition levels.

Think of it this way: we either stay where we are, keep doing what we're doing and remain annual contenders for the title, or we move up to a higher level of competition where we are perennial losers that are being out funded and outperformed consistently.

It seems a no brainer to me that we belong in the Big Sky and that is not going to change any time soon.
 
Wow! Thanks tailgaiter, I just realized the source of all the mishaps that have happened to me in the 13 years since I graduated from Weber. I just removed the diploma from the wall and am whiting out the word state as I type this. I need to remember to take that word off of my resume and all my profiles that contain it.

I remember when Idaho State came to the DEE 20 years ago and a fan had a sign that said "Weber isn't a State". That was a lame sign and this was a lamer post.

Teams with State in their name have done okay lately and aren't states:
Wichita State
Long Beach State
Chico State - World renowned party school
Dixie State
 
siouxfan said:
wazzuwildcat03 said:
I read in a Deseret News article that we play Utah State at home on Friday, Nov. 13th. I'm assuming that's the first game of the year. That's the only home game that I know of. I like the other OOC games that I'm aware of.
@ Portland ( Playing where the Blazers play)
@ BYU ( At ESA )
3 games against other mid majors in the Florida tournament before Thanksgiving
@ UVU

I don't want to get my hopes up on the remaining home OOC games, but I'm afraid we will play at least 2 none D1 games. UGGHHHH. :wall:
FGCU has UND and Youngstown St, with one slot open for their pre-Thanksgiving tournament. FGCU can't invite another Big Sky school.

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/12/2/5166356/2015-16-college-basketball-early-season-tournaments-events-MTE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

USD, SDSU, and NDSU are all in the Slummit. They want to be in the MVC for everything, but the MVC only wants them for football and nothing else.

Just as a reminder to you sioux, and I'm not assuming that you didn't know this, just setting the record straight, but Weber is not playing Florida Gulf Coast or participating in their tournament. Weber is playing in the Gulf Coast Showcase: http://www.weberstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=39376&SPID=3470&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=210038593&DB_OEM_ID=8600" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. However, I think it is great that UND is going to participate in a tournament at FGCU. And I wish you well.


On another note...I like DeeWildcat's argument and passion. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I do like his desire to seeing a better schedule. He is right, though, about one thing, what does a program get by having Weber State on its schedule? Weber is routinely in the 150s RPI wise and that doesn't really help any teams ahead of us, to play us. Weber wants to break out of that area, but nobody with better RPI's want to come to our house and we really don't gain anything playing teams below us in RPI; especially if they want us to come to their place. Best thing that could happen for Weber, and a whole bunch of mid-major teams is if the the NCAA were to create a rule stipulating that all teams had to play so many OOC games away from their stadiums (more road games for majors, or at least neutral) which could even out the playing field a bit. It would be not only a benefit to Weber's paltry schedule and possibly help Weber break into a lower RPI, but also, could definitely help get more butts in the seats.

I do definitely agree with one thing that has been brought up...STUDENTS. We need more at our games. It needs to become a destination for students not an after thought. I've never understood how nobody will put up a schedule on the bell tower or somewhere else on campus? The bigger the more that will notice. Have music and food to notify students and that will help. Get a group that can organize chants and lead the students in the section. It only takes a bit of organization.
 
I've wondered what would happen if a rule by the NCAA said all scheduling HAD to be home and home.....it may backfire though and force all the high RPI teams to only schedule high RPI teams....what do you think??
 
I would love that rule as well, and I have mentioned it before. One thing I think it would do is force High majors out on the road and level the playing field a little bit. HMs would want some road games that they could win and they would want it to not hurt them financially. I think they would look for mid majors with high attendance and the least negative exposure. It could only help some smaller conferences build themselves up. That is only one of the reasons that the power brokers will never support that idea or any idea that threatens their strangle hold on the purse strings. The NCAA would have to grow a pair and we all know that isn't happening any time soon. :lol: :lol:
 
Back2WSU said:
DeeWildcatTailgater said:
Other programs are just like us, they want an attractive schedule that isn't full of "random" garbage teams that are an embarrassment to play, let alone lose to on the road. It's not terribly embarrassing to lose @ Mercer, Bellmont, Davidson, Gonzaga or Depaul. These programs actually have individual identities, besides random state university. But could you imagine losing @ Mercer State, or Bellmont State? People would say, "why the hell are we losing to crappy random teams or even playing them?"

Let's wake up and face it, fans don't get any more excited when the schedule says Webber State than they do when it says Nicoles State. It's just a random noname game to them. Programs want to play road games that are sexy. Mid or high major teams and fans think, "wow, great schedule but why are we playing @Webber State. Wait where the hell is Webber State anyways?" Just like they would if they saw Minot State.

Now if you play at Lamar, Drexel, or Auburn (All programs we out attend and could be considered more successful than), no one bats an eye. Why?? Because these school/programs have an individual perceived identity. Schools that insert state in their name like we did in the 60's when it was cool, basically say, "hey guys, we are small and unknown but don't worry, we added state so atleast you know we are state funded and not online-for/profit. No need to research us and form an individual opinion, just group us with all the other 1000 random you-name-it state universities with 4,300 students." There are literally hundreds but we have 8 times the success/program support and student enrollment as 95% of them. Of course, obviously this doesn't apply if you are named after a major city or the state you are located in since people have heard of the location.

I have said it before and will say it again, we are WEber!!! Not Webber State or whatever. We are a proud, one of a kind program/university, with a long basketball tradition that deserves more respect than our name affords. A schedule which reads Southern Miss, @Weber, @ Purdue, @ NDSU looks much more exciting than Southern Miss, @ Weber State, @ Purdue, @NDSU. I can't process Webber State as anything more than a random schedule filler and I went there for hell sakes. Until we drop state and become the one of a kind university simply known as "Weber", we will always be no different than playing any other random fill in the blank state team. As a result, we will continue to lack the brand recognition which is required to build a sold nonconference schedule.

DeeWildcatTailgater,what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Now that I got my joke out of the way...seriously? "State" is the difference between our basketball program being a badass contender or a community college squad?

Honestly, I feel like a lot of people are still nostalgic for Lillard and feel that because we were lucky to land this one amazing player that obviously we are the next up and coming school that in 10 years will be a major team in March madness.

In reality we are not going anywhere any time soon as much as people would like to think. As long as WSU is primarily a commuter school, we won't get a large enough student fan base for the administration to consider investing in the program to try and get into higher competition levels.

Think of it this way: we either stay where we are, keep doing what we're doing and remain annual contenders for the title, or we move up to a higher level of competition where we are perennial losers that are being out funded and outperformed consistently.

It seems a no brainer to me that we belong in the Big Sky and that is not going to change any time soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
DeeWildcatTailgater said:
Back2WSU said:
DeeWildcatTailgater said:
Other programs are just like us, they want an attractive schedule that isn't full of "random" garbage teams that are an embarrassment to play, let alone lose to on the road. It's not terribly embarrassing to lose @ Mercer, Bellmont, Davidson, Gonzaga or Depaul. These programs actually have individual identities, besides random state university. But could you imagine losing @ Mercer State, or Bellmont State? People would say, "why the hell are we losing to crappy random teams or even playing them?"

Let's wake up and face it, fans don't get any more excited when the schedule says Webber State than they do when it says Nicoles State. It's just a random noname game to them. Programs want to play road games that are sexy. Mid or high major teams and fans think, "wow, great schedule but why are we playing @Webber State. Wait where the hell is Webber State anyways?" Just like they would if they saw Minot State.

Now if you play at Lamar, Drexel, or Auburn (All programs we out attend and could be considered more successful than), no one bats an eye. Why?? Because these school/programs have an individual perceived identity. Schools that insert state in their name like we did in the 60's when it was cool, basically say, "hey guys, we are small and unknown but don't worry, we added state so atleast you know we are state funded and not online-for/profit. No need to research us and form an individual opinion, just group us with all the other 1000 random you-name-it state universities with 4,300 students." There are literally hundreds but we have 8 times the success/program support and student enrollment as 95% of them. Of course, obviously this doesn't apply if you are named after a major city or the state you are located in since people have heard of the location.

I have said it before and will say it again, we are WEber!!! Not Webber State or whatever. We are a proud, one of a kind program/university, with a long basketball tradition that deserves more respect than our name affords. A schedule which reads Southern Miss, @Weber, @ Purdue, @ NDSU looks much more exciting than Southern Miss, @ Weber State, @ Purdue, @NDSU. I can't process Webber State as anything more than a random schedule filler and I went there for hell sakes. Until we drop state and become the one of a kind university simply known as "Weber", we will always be no different than playing any other random fill in the blank state team. As a result, we will continue to lack the brand recognition which is required to build a sold nonconference schedule.

DeeWildcatTailgater,what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Now that I got my joke out of the way...seriously? "State" is the difference between our basketball program being a badass contender or a community college squad?

Honestly, I feel like a lot of people are still nostalgic for Lillard and feel that because we were lucky to land this one amazing player that obviously we are the next up and coming school that in 10 years will be a major team in March madness.

In reality we are not going anywhere any time soon as much as people would like to think. As long as WSU is primarily a commuter school, we won't get a large enough student fan base for the administration to consider investing in the program to try and get into higher competition levels.

Think of it this way: we either stay where we are, keep doing what we're doing and remain annual contenders for the title, or we move up to a higher level of competition where we are perennial losers that are being out funded and outperformed consistently.

It seems a no brainer to me that we belong in the Big Sky and that is not going to change any time soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:clap: :notworthy: :thumb:
Awesome!
 
No official schedule yet. However, you can get the league schedule by looking at the women's schedule and flipping the home and away part. Looks like we only play the Montana schools at home this year. That's interesting. :coffee:
 
Sister Mary's School of Cosmetology must be holding out for more money. The Gimp Sisters of the Poor have already booked USU. Potentially exciting games are drying up fast! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
From what I can gather, the Cats will only have 1 home OOC DI game next Fall. I'm sure we will see another DI road money game on our schedule, but all of our home games will probably end up being DII/III NAIA...Ugh! I wish the Sky could put something together with another league. A type of challenge with the Summit, WCC, BIg West, or Sun Belt.
 

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