2016/17 schedule

[oldrunner]

Yes, it is the worst home schedule in the history of WSU basketball.

It is a total failure and bolsters my belief that scheduling should be taken out of the hands of coaches.

Trying to make excuses for this failure is pathetic. Sounds a little Trump like. It's over, you failed, admit it, learn from it, take appropriate actions, and move on. Once again, a failure to plan was a plan to fail. Please, just learn from it. If you are doing the same things over and over again, and expecting better results, there is a flaw in your logic.

 

[ajwildcat]

I'll go to the games vs Denver and UVU, but that's it.

Weber is obviously not trying hard enough.

I'm not pleased with the home schedule either. Black Hills State (exhibition), Antelope Valley, Denver, West Coast Baptist and Utah Valley, might be the weakest non-conference home schedule we've ever had. That being said, real WSU fans go to them ALL anyway. The team still needs us there, even when they are playing against doormats.

Oh cut the crap Hawks! IF I don't feel it's worth my time to drive a considerable distance to these crap games then I am not going to go to these games. It doesn't mean one is or is not a "Real" fan. "Real" fans expect more out of their teams instead of the same garbage home schedule every year and then being fed the same line of crap in the paper. :twocents:
Why should I bother driving to see Antelope U, when I would get so bored that I would leave at halftime anyway? Hell I didn't go to that game last year, and I only watched the first half on tv and then changed the station.
Before last year I had season tix for 30+ years, but I guess I am not a REAL fan. :thumbdown:

 

[SWeberCat02]

I'll go to the games vs Denver and UVU, but that's it.

Weber is obviously not trying hard enough.

I'm not pleased with the home schedule either. Black Hills State (exhibition), Antelope Valley, Denver, West Coast Baptist and Utah Valley, might be the weakest non-conference home schedule we've ever had. That being said, real WSU fans go to them ALL anyway. The team still needs us there, even when they are playing against doormats.

Oh cut the crap Hawks! IF I don't feel it's worth my time to drive a considerable distance to these crap games then I am not going to go to these games. It doesn't mean one is or is not a "Real" fan. "Real" fans expect more out of their teams instead of the same garbage home schedule every year and then being fed the same line of crap in the paper. :twocents:
Why should I bother driving to see Antelope U, when I would get so bored that I would leave at halftime anyway? Hell I didn't go to that game last year, and I only watched the first half on tv and then changed the station.
Before last year I had season tix for 30+ years, but I guess I am not a REAL fan. :thumbdown:

:+1: I was a long time season ticket holder that opted out last season and will not be purchasing this season. If they're going to schedule these crap games then the least they could do is not charge to watch. It's just plain disrespectful to me and my hard earned money to ask me to pay for these games. They give a half assed effort in scheduling but expect me to give full support by paying and attending. Not going to happen.

 

[oldrunner]

I agree that there should be no charge for the crap games. Of the remaining 11 games only a handful of them are actually of any quality.

I would say that the most expensive season tickets should be about $80. Anything above row 10 should be $40 or less. Anything above the portals should be free to the homeless, $40 if they want to actually live there.

WSU has no business charging full price for that piece of crap home schedule.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Three other conference programs have released their schedules. Here are their home OOC games.

Montana
Wyoming
Wisconsin-Milwaukee
San Jose St
Pepperdine

Eastern Washington
Linfield (Div III)
Bryant
Seattle/Louisiana Monroe
Denver
San Francisco
Great Falls (NAIA)
Morehead St

Northern Colorado
Colorado Christian (Div II)
Northern New Mexico (NAIA)
UC Riverside

 

[SWeberCat02]

UM gets 4 D1 home games, EWash gets 5, and Weber gets 2. :wall:

 

[sadkitty64]

I'm done! I'm not giving, buying or supporting till athletics figures out some things and makes some changes. Since Gerald "USU Inept" Bovee allows this crap to continue under his reign of incompetence, I don't feel I should continue being a Wildcat Fan.

 

[AlumniWSU]

If the lackluster part of last/this year's OOC home schedule isn't due to lack of effort...then it's arguably due to the effort's lack of success! Try something different.

Is there a problem in, for instance, instead of ending up with Antelope Valley/West Coast Baptist...scheduling the 2 Big Sky teams that aren't going to play at the DEC in official conference games this season? They would be non-conference, as in example the Sac. St. arrangement is in football? Or how about scheduling a home & away game each season with, say, UVU ?

Can't seem to understand that any Div I team in the WAC, Big West, WCC wouldn't be interested at all in such an arrangement involving an appearance in Ogden. It does not make sense & truly is a disservice to the basketball season tickets holders (of which I am not & still consider myself a REAL WILDCAT FAN)!! :twocents:

 

[sacstateman]

If Weber would put part of Rahe's salary dependent upon his out of conference SOS ranking in the top 40 in the NCAA, you would get instant results....guaranteed....no more excuses needed....

I continue to believe if you tied part of his salary to WSU's OOC SOS, you would get instant results....too late now that you gave him a new contract but that is the ONLY WAY you are going to get the results you desire....Money talks and we all know what walks....

 

[WILDCAT]

UM gets 4 D1 home games, EWash gets 5, and Weber gets 2. :wall:

UNLV is also playing in Cedar City this year. CEDAR FREAKING CITY :evil:

 

[SWeberCat02]

If Weber would put part of Rahe's salary dependent upon his out of conference SOS ranking in the top 40 in the NCAA, you would get instant results....guaranteed....no more excuses needed....

I continue to believe if you tied part of his salary to WSU's OOC SOS, you would get instant results....too late now that you gave him a new contract but that is the ONLY WAY you are going to get the results you desire....Money talks and we all know what walks....

IMO, a new contract should have included incentives to win OOC games, especially in-state games, as well. But as Weber's motto seems to be "just do enough", I guess winning a terrible conference every other year is "just doing enough". Rahe has no incentive or pressure to develop a strong OOC schedule or win OOC games.

 

[n.ogdencat]

I'm going to get on my soap box once again. MONEY TALKS!! If you have more funds coming into your department, you as a leader can do more for the programs that are a part of your department. Meaning...better facilities, nicer perks, legitimate schedules, possible holiday tournament, more influence, more media attention, more fans buying tickets, providing support, granting donations, and buying your swag.

What is the issue? Athletics isn't generating enough CASH to get the proverbial ball moving. They don't seem interested in building the fan base, getting out of their comfort zone and most importantly, constructing a lasting base upon which to draw/generate funding from. YOU MUST START WITH YOUR STUDENTS! Get them involved and invested in their university. Help them to become lasting fans and supporters of your programs. And, shockingly, you can start even before they get to Weber. Hard to believe, but if you get them when they are young and convert them to the way of Wildcat Purple and White, more often than not, they stay committed. Next, have a stronger appearance in your community by being SEEN and making appearances, and creating relationships. Finally they must make a stronger appeal to the alumni. ATHLETICS DOESN'T DO ANYTHING OF THESE THINGS!

Imagine how much more Jerry and Randy could do if they were bringing in an extra 100K per year. Butts in the seats do matter. It improves the quality and atmosphere of home games. MOST importantly it brings in CASH, which can be used to build the program, improve the schedule, and to recruit better players. GONZAGA GETS THIS, you can't duplicate the model JERRY by just claiming that is what you want to do. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK and plan. You need a staff committed to doing more. Not just crappy signs that nobody can see, and if seen make no freaking sense. Free Basketball? What does that mean? Do I get a free basketball? What about date, time, opponent? Heaven help us!! I'm praying and hoping that finally Jerry gets this.

 

[Wildcat_Fan]

We dont even need to talk about marketing for basketball. You could do all the marketing in the world for the OOC games and the only one worth watching is Denver.
I agree Tal that money talks. BUT athletics may have to spend money to make money. Pony up some big bucks to get schools in here, MARKET THE HELL OUTTA THEM, and guess what? Maybe generate some money and some buzz for the program for future games, which means more money. Who Knew!!
If eastern has 5 D1 home games then idk what to do..
I am just tired of the excuses and the "good enough" attitude. Maybe if we all go to one or two games this year and call it "good enough" then maybe athletics will see it.
Between our terrible OOC schedule and the weak a$$ Big Sky conference games whats the point?

 

[oldrunner]

Athletics posted an interview with Randy on Facebook today. I think they were trying to do a little damage control after releasing the schedule. They hit on several of the positives that have happened with the program this summer and finished it up with an apology for the schedule. Randy, basically, said that fans can come if they want, but it is what it is. He used most all of the same excuses, but he didn't seem to believe them himself. I think he is feeling the pressure to get things changed. I really hope that is an indication that they will actually do something about it next year.

We can only hope. I hope we don't lose all of the progress we have made in attendance over the last several years. :doh:

It hurts my heart to see the program potentially turn like this.

 

[SWeberCat02]

"We want to play the best and biggest teams we can play" said Rahe. :roll:

 

[Webergrad02]

"We want to play the best and biggest teams we can play" said Rahe. :roll:

Then why not add a couple of P5 road games? We still had some games spots available. Coach says whatever he wants and no one holds him accountable.

 

[SWeberCat02]

"We want to play the best and biggest teams we can play" said Rahe. :roll:

Then why not add a couple of P5 road games? We still had some games spots available. Coach says whatever he wants and no one holds him accountable.

I think almost all fans would rather see the team go on the road and do that instead of playing non-D1s at home.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Coach said it in the recording. He wants a couple of automatic games on the schedule. He wants "balance." Personally, I would never want to play an NAIA school, if I were a coach. It just looks trashy. There are DI's out there that will challenge the Cats, but be automatic wins at the Dee too. I know...he wants a team that is nothing more than a handful of warm bodies so that he can run his team through a combination of sets. He wants a team where his team can build confidence, work on plays/sets, and most importantly get a W. Nonetheless, I hate it. I like playing legitimate opponents. That is me.

By the way, coach did not look happy having to explain his schedule. Paul did a good job of trying to diffuse the situation with questions about other team "happenings" but everyone knows that that was damage control by the department because of the schedule. Coach wasn't pleased. If I was Jerry, and I had something to announce to get fans off my back, I would. I don't think he does, but if there is another home football game for next season, a facility upgrade, anything to get the monkey off his back. NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

 

[SWeberCat02]

Says he wants a very challenging schedule (to get them ready for conference play) and to play the best and biggest teams. But then says he wants winnable games and a balanced schedule. So which is it coach?

 

[WSUProf]

"We want to play the best and biggest teams we can play" said Rahe. :roll:

Then why not add a couple of P5 road games? We still had some games spots available. Coach says whatever he wants and no one holds him accountable.

I think almost all fans would rather see the team go on the road and do that instead of playing non-D1s at home.

Keep in mind that the players are STUDENTS. They will miss almost an entire week of classes in order to go out to CA and play Pepperdine and Stanford.

Not sure when another road trip could be fit in. If it's in place of the Antelope Valley "game" then that means the players will miss an extra 2 days of classes right before the week long trip to CA for Pepperdine and Stanford. After the tourney in Alaska they are home for a week. I can't see trying to schedule another road trip during that week. Then they have BYU on the 7th. Classes end on the 9th and exams are the following week. So a road game couldn't be on the 10th in place of the West Coast Baptist "game." After exam week they play UVU and then go to Utah State. Again, I don't see where a road game can fit in. I think what's on the schedule this year in terms of road games is great.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a better home schedule, and I don't blame folks for not wanting to attend the NAIA "games." I have season tickets and sometimes don't bother to go to those games. But I take Rahe at his word that no one wants to come play Weber at the Dee. I remember something Rahe said another coach told him last year after turning down a trip to WSU. "If I'm going to schedule a road game, why should I go to Weber and likely lose, when I could go to Washington and lose and make a lot $$ doing so."