baller said:Besides, I don't think there were many in the Weber fan base who was calling for Randy's job last year when he lost several that he really shouldn't have.
talhadfoursteals said:Let's all agree on one thing...last years HOME schedule was lacking in effort. The road and neutral court games were fine. Playing SDSU was a great measure for our program, and I for one felt that the preseason schedule, sans three games at the Dee, was fairly challenging for the Cats.
YES, I want to see better games played in the Dee. But, I also want to see athletics actually try to make the Dee an amazing college game atmosphere. Doing work to improve the game day experience and building a fan base. They need to really try to fill the Dee and build a student following. This takes time, effort, and work. Something the marketing guy doesn't understand or do. It takes a plan and the execution of that plan months in advance not the day of, to really get the Dee rocking. I want to have a reason to get excited for having home games on TV so that the rest of the state can see what they are missing by not coming to Ogden to watch the Wildcats. Not to highlight Antelope Valley College and an empty DEE EVENTS CENTER. I can't believe Just Enough Jerry thought that was alright. Lets put crap games against NAIA BEATS on TV and showcase an empty stadium. THATS THE WAY TO BUILD A FAN BASE!! That'ta boy Jerry!! IS THERE A PLAN FOR THIS SEASON YET? I highly doubt it.
The problem wasn't who we played on the road, but who we played at home and even when we did play a highly competitive team at home, athletics ho-hummed it, THEY DID JUST ENOUGH, and didn't try to get butts in the seats or drive any sort of excitement. Maybe Randy doesn't want to bring in a top notch team to play them in a half empty Dee, where there are more cheer leaders than students students, no pep band, some random slob wandering around with a microphone during time-outs and the marketing director getting mad about the distribution of cupcakes. The problem is athletics getting the word out and making the experience memorable.
pccatfan said:talhadfoursteals said:Let's all agree on one thing...last years HOME schedule was lacking in effort. The road and neutral court games were fine. Playing SDSU was a great measure for our program, and I for one felt that the preseason schedule, sans three games at the Dee, was fairly challenging for the Cats.
YES, I want to see better games played in the Dee. But, I also want to see athletics actually try to make the Dee an amazing college game atmosphere. Doing work to improve the game day experience and building a fan base. They need to really try to fill the Dee and build a student following. This takes time, effort, and work. Something the marketing guy doesn't understand or do. It takes a plan and the execution of that plan months in advance not the day of, to really get the Dee rocking. I want to have a reason to get excited for having home games on TV so that the rest of the state can see what they are missing by not coming to Ogden to watch the Wildcats. Not to highlight Antelope Valley College and an empty DEE EVENTS CENTER. I can't believe Just Enough Jerry thought that was alright. Lets put crap games against NAIA BEATS on TV and showcase an empty stadium. THATS THE WAY TO BUILD A FAN BASE!! That'ta boy Jerry!! IS THERE A PLAN FOR THIS SEASON YET? I highly doubt it.
The problem wasn't who we played on the road, but who we played at home and even when we did play a highly competitive team at home, athletics ho-hummed it, THEY DID JUST ENOUGH, and didn't try to get butts in the seats or drive any sort of excitement. Maybe Randy doesn't want to bring in a top notch team to play them in a half empty Dee, where there are more cheer leaders than students students, no pep band, some random slob wandering around with a microphone during time-outs and the marketing director getting mad about the distribution of cupcakes. The problem is athletics getting the word out and making the experience memorable.
Atmosphere is everything. I went to the rodeo on Mon and that is an event! It was fun, exciting, and entertaining. They kept the crowd into the whole time and we're putting on a show. It was packed full too. I couldn't help but think that Weber could learn a lesson from them. You need to make it a spectacle and people will come. There is potential in Ogden and the rodeo proves it.
baller said:Hey, any Coach who is not willing to play a game that he could possibly lose, and take a little heat if he actually loses, should get out of the kitchen. ... It is hard to have that same respect for Randy because of the padding of his record by scheduling of schools so unrecognizable that they don't seem to be playing in any pond at all.
I think the world of Randy and what he has been able to do here. However, I call BS on that. I read more into what he does than the coach speak that goes out to the press. All coaches know what needs to be said when it will be quoted in the media. :twocents:WSUProf said:baller said:Hey, any Coach who is not willing to play a game that he could possibly lose, and take a little heat if he actually loses, should get out of the kitchen. ... It is hard to have that same respect for Randy because of the padding of his record by scheduling of schools so unrecognizable that they don't seem to be playing in any pond at all.
How many times have you heard/read Rahe saying he doesn't care about his pre-conference record? The man is not trying to pad his record by scheduling cupcakes. He wants the toughest pre-conf schedule he can get. The tougher that schedule is the better prepared his players are when conference play begins.
oldrunner said:I think the world of Randy and what he has been able to do here. However, I call BS on that. I read more into what he does than the coach speak that goes out to the press. All coaches know what needs to be said when it will be quoted in the media. :twocents:WSUProf said:baller said:Hey, any Coach who is not willing to play a game that he could possibly lose, and take a little heat if he actually loses, should get out of the kitchen. ... It is hard to have that same respect for Randy because of the padding of his record by scheduling of schools so unrecognizable that they don't seem to be playing in any pond at all.
How many times have you heard/read Rahe saying he doesn't care about his pre-conference record? The man is not trying to pad his record by scheduling cupcakes. He wants the toughest pre-conf schedule he can get. The tougher that schedule is the better prepared his players are when conference play begins.
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Home
Utah Valley
Denver
West Coast Baptist
Road
@ Utah State
11/15 @ Pepperdine
11/24 vs UC Davis (Great Alaskan shootout)
11/25 vs Drake/Iona (Great Alaskan Shootout)
11/26 vs UAA/Buffalo/Oakland/Nevada (Great Alaskan Shootout)
12/7 @ BYU
Conference Games
12/29 @ Montana State
12/31 @ Montana
1/7 @ Idaho State
1/12 vs Idaho
1/14 vs Eastern Washington
1/19 @ North Dakota
1/21 @ Northern Colorado
1/28 vs Idaho State
2/2 vs Southern Utah
2/4 vs Northern Arizona
2/9 @ Sacramento State
2/11 @ Portland State
2/16 vs Northern Colorado
2/18 vs North Dakota
2/23 @ Eastern Washington
2/25 @ Idaho
3/1 vs Montana
3/3 vs Montana State
WILDCAT said:For all of those dogging on our preseason schedule that so far features only one pasty game, it could be much worse. Just take a look at UNC's OOC schedule.
@ Butler
Colorado Christian
@ Santa Clara
@ Arizona
@ Las Vegas Tourney
@ Oklahoma
Northern New Mexico
@ Colorado State
@ Denver
UC Riverside
They play ONE Div.I school at home this year. + I'm all for a tough road schedy, but that is ridiculous.
Bengal visitor said:WILDCAT said:For all of those dogging on our preseason schedule that so far features only one pasty game, it could be much worse. Just take a look at UNC's OOC schedule.
@ Butler
Colorado Christian
@ Santa Clara
@ Arizona
@ Las Vegas Tourney
@ Oklahoma
Northern New Mexico
@ Colorado State
@ Denver
UC Riverside
They play ONE Div.I school at home this year. + I'm all for a tough road schedy, but that is ridiculous.
Idaho State's will be similar: Lamar will be our only D-1 home game. At: BYU, Utah State, Boise State, New Mexico, Texas Tech, Northridge, Utah Valley and Wisconsin and Cancun tourney. Anticipated drop in enrollment and loss of fees means across the board cuts in athletic department budgets. That means more $$$ games, fewer home games and no D-1 teams want to come to Pocatello as part of a home-and-home arrangement. Our lot in life these days. Oh how I long for the days when Gonzaga, USC, Wazzu and the three Utah schools would come to Pocatello. Won't see that again in my lifetime.
ajwildcat said:Have any of you "insiders" heard when the schedule will be announced? Possibly still waiting on the Big Sky to figure out the conference part of the schedule. Any day now would be fine. :twocents:
I will bet you a free WSU t-shirt that it is indeed a conference thing, otherwise at least 1 Big Sky team would have announced their schedule by now. :twocents:oldrunner said:ajwildcat said:Have any of you "insiders" heard when the schedule will be announced? Possibly still waiting on the Big Sky to figure out the conference part of the schedule. Any day now would be fine. :twocents:
If there were not problems with it, it would be out by now. Seems like everybody is late with their schedules this year. However, I don't think it is due to the BSC. If it was a BSC thing, then I vote for a full 22 game BSC schedule. :thumb:
oldrunner said:If there were not problems with it, it would be out by now. Seems like everybody is late with their schedules this year.
Dammnitt all to hell! I guess I owe OldmanRunner a free WSU t-shirt. :doh:wazzuwildcat03 said:Actually 2 schools in the big sky have announced their schedules. Montana and northern colorado. I'm sure we are trying to get st. Kathrine college to finalize the date. Ugh. I have a bad feeling our home schedule will be worse than last year. I hope I'm wrong