2016 Recruits

[oldrunner]

I know that Josh was well liked by everyone in and around the program. I think that he just wanted to go where he could get more playing time. He is a great young man and an asset to whatever community he is in. It has been obvious to everyone on this forum that Josh was always one of my favorite players and I stand by him and his game. What a great family. :nod: :nod: :nod:

I wasn't suggesting anything about Josh. My point was that it's likely that Josh might not have had the highest view of Weber State and its coaches after not getting any playing time here. Clearly Josh (and his parents) have a high view of Weber despite that, or else Tim would not have made a recruiting visit here. That speaks highly of the coaches and the program they've built, I think.

I certainly don't know Josh's inner feelings, but I am not aware of any animosity between he and the rest of the program. I think that everyone involved were just looking for the best situation for all parties involved. To suggest that there are hard feelings is irresponsible. :bad:

 

[WSUProf]

I know that Josh was well liked by everyone in and around the program. I think that he just wanted to go where he could get more playing time. He is a great young man and an asset to whatever community he is in. It has been obvious to everyone on this forum that Josh was always one of my favorite players and I stand by him and his game. What a great family. :nod: :nod: :nod:

I wasn't suggesting anything about Josh. My point was that it's likely that Josh might not have had the highest view of Weber State and its coaches after not getting any playing time here. Clearly Josh (and his parents) have a high view of Weber despite that, or else Tim would not have made a recruiting visit here. That speaks highly of the coaches and the program they've built, I think.

I certainly don't know Josh's inner feelings, but I am not aware of any animosity between he and the rest of the program. I think that everyone involved were just looking for the best situation for all parties involved. To suggest that there are hard feelings is irresponsible. :bad:

Let me try this one last time. I am not suggesting that there are any hard feelings. In fact, I am suggesting just the opposite. Because Tim Fuller decided to visit WSU on one of his recruiting trips suggests to me neither that his brother Josh nor his parents hold any hard feelings toward Weber. I'm suggesting that they must hold Rahe and his staff in high regard.
Perhaps I did not make myself as clear as I should have in my previous posts.

 

[sacstateman]

You were perfectly clear in your posts.....olds just reads different than the rest of us.....

 

[Webergrad02]

I know that Josh was well liked by everyone in and around the program. I think that he just wanted to go where he could get more playing time. He is a great young man and an asset to whatever community he is in. It has been obvious to everyone on this forum that Josh was always one of my favorite players and I stand by him and his game. What a great family. :nod: :nod: :nod:

I wasn't suggesting anything about Josh. My point was that it's likely that Josh might not have had the highest view of Weber State and its coaches after not getting any playing time here. Clearly Josh (and his parents) have a high view of Weber despite that, or else Tim would not have made a recruiting visit here. That speaks highly of the coaches and the program they've built, I think.

I certainly don't know Josh's inner feelings, but I am not aware of any animosity between he and the rest of the program. I think that everyone involved were just looking for the best situation for all parties involved. To suggest that there are hard feelings is irresponsible. :bad:

Olds please read the mans post before telling him he is irresponsible. He is basically saying the same thing as you. He did not suggest there were hard feelings. :shake:

 

[n.ogdencat]

I know that Josh was well liked by everyone in and around the program. I think that he just wanted to go where he could get more playing time. He is a great young man and an asset to whatever community he is in. It has been obvious to everyone on this forum that Josh was always one of my favorite players and I stand by him and his game. What a great family. :nod: :nod: :nod:

I wasn't suggesting anything about Josh. My point was that it's likely that Josh might not have had the highest view of Weber State and its coaches after not getting any playing time here. Clearly Josh (and his parents) have a high view of Weber despite that, or else Tim would not have made a recruiting visit here. That speaks highly of the coaches and the program they've built, I think.

I certainly don't know Josh's inner feelings, but I am not aware of any animosity between he and the rest of the program. I think that everyone involved were just looking for the best situation for all parties involved. To suggest that there are hard feelings is irresponsible. :bad:

Olds please read the mans post before telling him he is irresponsible. He is basically saying the same thing as you. He did not suggest there were hard feelings. :shake:

I had no idea that the two were related. Huh...that is rather interesting. I don't think Josh disliked his time here at Weber, but then again, I don't know. He saw the writing on the wall and didn't see himself getting substantial mins in the future. No matter, I really like Tim's game and feel he would be an asset here at Weber.

 

[oldrunner]

My point was that it's likely that Josh might not have had the highest view of Weber State and its coaches after not getting any playing time here.

Please tell me what I misread.

Regardless, we are taking about a young man who would be part of the 2018 class and would not likely see the floor until 2019. That is a long way off. If we are going to tie up a grant for that long, it needs to be the right player. Tim may be that 'right' player, I don't know. My opinion is if there is uncertainty on either side, hold off until there is no doubt. It's a big commitment on the player side and on the program side. The mission makes it even bigger.

 

[oldrunner]

Congratulations to Tim Fuller on his commitment to San Francisco. Good luck on your mission and with your education/basketball when you get back. I'm hoping to get you guys on our schedule. I would love to see you play, when you get back. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[n.ogdencat]

Congratulations to Tim Fuller on his commitment to San Francisco. Good luck on your mission and with your education/basketball when you get back. I'm hoping to get you guys on our schedule. I would love to see you play, when you get back. :thumb: :thumb:

Not a bad move for Tim. Good luck this next year, on the mission, and at USF. Great school with a good program.

 

[n.ogdencat]

I guess we might still be waiting on Wyatt Lowell?

 

[oldrunner]

I think that I may have said this before, but if Wyatt wants to be a Wildcat, great. Otherwise, leave that spot open for some unknown, at this point, prospect over the next 2+ years. There is no great need to tie our hands at this juncture. We already have a great prospect, in 6'4'' point guard, Spencer Johnson, coming in for that 2018 class. We are OK.

 

[wsucatfan]

How in the world does a 4 star recruit commit to UVU?

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=37314421&nid=1252&s_cid=rss-extlink

New Utah Valley coach Mark Pope hasn't coached his first official game, but the Wolverines have already begun reaping benefits of the hire.

Four-star prospect Wyatt Lowell, a 6-foot-9, 290-pound post from Gilbert, Arizona, announced his commitment to the Wolverines via Twitter on Tuesday night.

The No. 1 power forward recruit in Arizona, Scout.com projects Lowell as the 24th-best player at that spot in the nation.

Lowell chose Utah Valley over offers from Colorado, Oklahoma State, Northern Colorado, Lehigh and UC Davis, Weber State, and others. He also had interest from Cal, Iowa and BYU.

Lowell plans to serve a two-year mission for the LDS Church immediately following high school graduation in 2016, and would enroll ahead of the 2018 season at UVU, according to an earlier report by Scout.com.

ESPN.com describes Lowell as "a pick-and-pop 5-man with very long arms, good hands and a solid motor." He showed a mid-range jumper of about 20 feet during his junior year at Williams Field High School in Gilbert, Arizona.

Coaches cannot comment on incoming recruits until they have filed a National Letter of Intent. Wednesday marks the first day of the NCAA's initial signing period.

Utah Valley opens the season Friday at BYU. The Wolverines defeated Western State, 97-52 in an exhibition game Nov. 9.

 

[oldrunner]

They don't have a good math program at UVU. Wyatt is a two star recruit. The cross eyed coach must have recruited him. :lol: :lol:

He had offers to visit those other places. Not real scholarship offers.

I hope he does well at UVU. I wish him the best.

 

[wsucatfan]

They don't have a good math program at UVU. Wyatt is a two star recruit. The cross eyed coach must have recruited him. :lol: :lol:

He had offers to visit those other places. Not real scholarship offers.

I hope he does well at UVU. I wish him the best.

I see 4 stars at Rivals, 3 stars at ESPN, 4 at verbal commits, not seeing any 2's (maybe I'm cross eyed too)

 

[oldrunner]

I see 4 stars at Rivals, 3 stars at ESPN, 4 at verbal commits, not seeing any 2's (maybe I'm cross eyed too)

That just happened yesterday. He had been a two start for the past 6 months. I wonder how that happened? Having seen him play, I would say that the star rating system is really messed up in this case. He is almost exactly like the big kid they had from Clearfield a few years ago. He will be a good player for them, but if 4 star means that he is a potential NBA player......, I don't think so. However, stranger things have happened. :twocents:

 

[SWeberCat02]

Yeah, nothing to laugh about oldrunner. If Weber truly wanted Lowell, 4 star or not, and he chose UVU then there's real reason to be concerned. They already beat Weber every time they play them at their place and Pope looks like the guy that could take them to the next level. It could be argued that they're already at Weber's level and that they're starting to pass them. And after getting beat by SUU twice last season, some could argue Weber is now the worst D1 program in the state. Hope this season changes any thought of that.

 

[sacstateman]

I'm curious about if they have a scale......Lowell is 190lbs not 290.....and olds...maybe you only have one eye....Cal doesn't even look at 2 star recruits...gonna start calling you a cyclops....but that one eye is purple....lol

 

[oldrunner]

I'm curious about if they have a scale......Lowell is 190lbs not 290.....and olds...maybe you only have one eye....Cal doesn't even look at 2 star recruits...gonna start calling you a cyclops....but that one eye is purple....lol

Sac; Are you saying that Cal brought him in for a visit and offered to sign him?

I've been watching the kid for the last six months and that is news to me. I know that BYU offered him a walk on spot. Everyone but UVU went in different directions. I guess you are saying that OSU, CU, and Cal went after him hard, but lost out to UVU????

 

[n.ogdencat]

No one can deny that I am the self-proclaimed recruiting expert and damn-it you can't disagree with me on that point (maybe catcat, weberski, or pattenjr) LOOOOL.

With the above being stated, there is no way in HELL that Wyatt Lowell is a 4 Star guy. That is a very recent thing. As in, he wasn't until KSL said so. He has been a 2 star guy the past 20 months. I have no idea when that was changed and why it was changed. Real 4-Star recruits are guys like Omar Sherman and Eric Mika. Guys who can play for a High-Major team immediately and contribute, with the potential of becoming an NBA target. Sherman left Miami, not because he couldn't play, but for other reasons. Somewhat suspicious reasons. He could still end up at Weber though. Who knows what Coach is thinking.

As for Wyatt...we were never that excited about him. He visited and that was that. Our top recruit is Spencer Johnson and we got him. As for a big to replace Joel...well, signing an automatic mission kid wasn't our goal. The better option would have been Fuller, but he chose USF. We brought in both and pursued Fuller harder after his visit. Lowell was a, well he would be fine, if he wanted to come her, but we weren't really that jazzed about his prospects.

Lowell had high-major offers, but they all passed. Colorado backed out (probably didn't like his game after his visit), Oklahoma State never let him visit, and none of the other high majors even offered. YES SAC...Cal does and has offered from what we can see 2-Star guys; Tyson Jolly is a 2 Star according to Verbal Commits.

 

[sacstateman]

Jolly is rated at 4 stars per Rivals.....pick your own rating service.....Lowell is rated as one of the top 50 centers or better on every service....I know, I know, you don't need him...OK...BTW, according to verbalcommits Cal has an AVERAGE star rating of 3.458...you don't get those averages recruiting 2 star players.....and olds....I never said Cal had offered or had him in for a visit...I guess that one eye of yours doesn't read so good....

 

[n.ogdencat]

Jolly is rated at 4 stars per Rivals.....pick your own rating service.....Lowell is rated as one of the top 50 centers or better on every service....I know, I know, you don't need him...OK...BTW, according to verbalcommits Cal has an AVERAGE star rating of 3.458...you don't get those averages recruiting 2 star players.....and olds....I never said Cal had offered or had him in for a visit...I guess that one eye of yours doesn't read so good....

Well...Shit, he is a 4 on Rivals.

So...back to what really matters.

Wyatt Lowell...Good luck to him on his mission and at UVU.

Now onto more important matters...2017 recruiting and the 2015-16 Basketball Season. Recruits...what do we really know. Last I checked a 2 Star recruit is one of the top NBA PG's and a whole bunch of 4 Star guys aren't even playing anymore.