Coaching rumors

[Rjones61]

We're so lucky to have a coach who is satisfied with the FCS brand football. In all honesty, if Baldwin wanted to go, he would have been gone by now. He is definitely on FBS radars.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/coaching-candidate-making-case-beau-baldwin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[eaglesfootball]

so which one is Hitler and which one is Stalin? :lol: We should root for the Griz to win because that's the best case playoff scenario for the Sky and the best for Eastern.

 

[DefendtheRed]

Moore was making over $300K at the end IIRC.

I'd invest in Baldwin and the rest of the coaches before the Gateway. :nod: :twocents:

That's a fairly Apples and Oranges comparison.

 

[grizfnz]

My hunch is he was talking about Coach Best. Montana would be a fairly lateral move for Baldwin. If someone hired Bakdwin away from Eastern (and it wouldn't be Montana), I think Best would probably be the front runner for our next Head Coach.

Haha well I'd love to see Coach Best's reaction to that offer. Unless things have changed drastically since I sat in the online meeting room, I doubt he'd be very receptive to that.

It's not Best and if what is being talked about is true, the EWU candidate is the fall back. But you know how things go with the "I've not been contacted by XYZ" coach speak. What makes things even more interesting with this hire are the new construction projects, addition of Womens softball and plans for an indoor practice facility.....could be who ever accepts this job knows of a pending move to FCS and a bigger pay day.

 

[Eaglefanatical]

so which one is Hitler and which one is Stalin? :lol: We should root for the Griz to win because that's the best case playoff scenario for the Sky and the best for Eastern.

Root for Montana? That is clearly not an option so I will go with the lesser of two evils and go with MSU.

 

[eaglesfootball]

My hunch is he was talking about Coach Best. Montana would be a fairly lateral move for Baldwin. If someone hired Bakdwin away from Eastern (and it wouldn't be Montana), I think Best would probably be the front runner for our next Head Coach.

Haha well I'd love to see Coach Best's reaction to that offer. Unless things have changed drastically since I sat in the online meeting room, I doubt he'd be very receptive to that.

It's not Best and if what is being talked about is true, the EWU candidate is the fall back. But you know how things go with the "I've not been contacted by XYZ" coach speak. What makes things even more interesting with this hire are the new construction projects, addition of Womens softball and plans for an indoor practice facility.....could be who ever accepts this job knows of a pending move to FCS and a bigger pay day.

i wouldnt be surprised if montana had contacted Baldwin. That seems fairly logical considering his record against montana the past few years. Given the circumstances what would be surprising is if he actually went there. I suppose stranger things have happened but i wouldn't bet the farm on this.

 

[clawman1]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

 

[DefendtheRed]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

Mr. Michael Kramer, anyone? It has happened before.

 

[grizfnz]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

Mr. Michael Kramer, anyone? It has happened before.

I think many of us would support that option, but with our current knee jerk president and the baggage (some of it unfair) associated with Kramer, that will not happen.

 

[EWURanger]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

Mr. Michael Kramer, anyone? It has happened before.

Speaking of apples and oranges comparisons...the gap between Eastern and the Montana schools is much narrower than when Kramer left.

 

[GoldenEagle]

Wow, tough decision. Deep down, I want the griz season over as soon as possible. However, the thought of the griz making the playoffs solely for the EAGS to beat them in the playoffs is enticing.

After thinking about it, I want the CATS to totally smoke the griz, beat them to a pulp at WA Griz stadium. I want to send egriz into a winter of deep depression with a monumental meltdown. I want to see incoherent, drunken mumbling posts on egriz as they stew while watching the EAGS successful run to a National Championship (I know egriz is already full of incoherent drunken posts). Is that too much to wish for?

 

[EWURanger]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

Mr. Michael Kramer, anyone? It has happened before.

I think many of us would support that option, but with our current knee jerk president and the baggage (some of it unfair) associated with Kramer, that will not happen.

I think what he's saying is that there's a precedent of an Eastern coach going to one of the Montana schools.

I'd struggle with that personally as I think most Eastern fans would, but at the end of the day it's a personal decision. So if Baldwin is plan "B" for Montana, who's plan "A"? Dan Hawkins? :lol:

And so begins the annual Baldwin to "insert school" rumors.

 

[grizfnz]

WRT Coach Baldwin, he's not going to Montana. The difference in pay would be neglible (might be less at UM), and I'm not sure why he would want to leave everything he's built at Eastern behind.

Same thing for any potential FBS move - he's got stability here. Sure, most of those FBS jobs will pay much more, but 2-3 years of losing seasons and there's the prospect of having to start the process all over again. I'd love to see Coach B go the Jerry Moore route and continue to build a dynasty at Eastern.

FYI: Delaney base salary is over 160K, BB makes about 50K less. Add in media contract, apparel contract and camp money and total compensation at UM is about 200K.

 

[EWURanger]

WRT Coach Baldwin, he's not going to Montana. The difference in pay would be neglible (might be less at UM), and I'm not sure why he would want to leave everything he's built at Eastern behind.

Same thing for any potential FBS move - he's got stability here. Sure, most of those FBS jobs will pay much more, but 2-3 years of losing seasons and there's the prospect of having to start the process all over again. I'd love to see Coach B go the Jerry Moore route and continue to build a dynasty at Eastern.

FYI: Delaney base salary is over 160K, BB makes about 50K less. Add in media contract, apparel contract and camp money and total compensation at UM is about 200K.

The last time I checked, I think Baldwin's base was around $115k, so yes, it would be an increase in pay.

I do think there's a lot more to it than money, and UM seems to making the right investments in facilities (thanks tonthe Washington family). I still don't think Baldwin is the head coach at Montana next year.

Anyway, since you seem to have so much insider information, care to give a hint as to the primary option is?

 

[dudeitsaid]

Moore was making over $300K at the end IIRC.

I'd invest in Baldwin and the rest of the coaches before the Gateway. :nod: :twocents:

I COMPLETELY agree with this. That is a higher priority.

 

[dudeitsaid]

If Beau really wants to take the next step he needs to make the step to FBS, even if it is as a coordinator. To make a lateral move within FCS doesn't do much for his career and as mentioned earlier does not look good going over to the primary competitor.

Mr. Michael Kramer, anyone? It has happened before.

I think many of us would support that option, but with our current knee jerk president and the baggage (some of it unfair) associated with Kramer, that will not happen.

I think what he's saying is that there's a precedent of an Eastern coach going to one of the Montana schools.

I'd struggle with that personally as I think most Eastern fans would, but at the end of the day it's a personal decision. So if Baldwin is plan "B" for Montana, who's plan "A"? Dan Hawkins? :lol:

And so begins the annual Baldwin to "insert school" rumors.

There's no way,if Baldwin was it the market, he would be a plan "B" for any school. He would be the top candidate for any FCS school that thought they had a realistic chance at him.

That being said, I agree with Rjones1. I have to believe he has been on the radar of multiple FBS schools for years. Maybe the right situation just hasn't arisen yet, or there is something else keeping him in place. In any case, I hope the school realizes how valuable he is, and rewards him accordingly.

 

[dudeitsaid]

Baldwin's compensation has been increasing at a good rate over the last four years.
EWU - 152k (total compensation, don't know the base)
Last four years
102,000 113,000 138,421 152,084

http://data.spokesman.com/salaries/state/2014/job-titles/browse/?job_title=Head%20Football%20Coach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other coaches are as follows. Some of the info isn't totally up to date, but nothing is more than two years old. And I think these are just the base salaries. So I don't know what incentives add. I think Baldwin's includes everything. And I couldn't find PSU.

UM - 150k
http://missoulian.com/news/local/mick-delaney-named-university-of-montana-head-football-coach/article_c12c2280-d6b5-11e1-aacf-0019bb2963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MSU - 155k
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/article_e35bb668-4303-11e1-9751-001871e3ce6c.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ISU - 126k
http://www.boardofed.idaho.gov/finance_admin/fin_admin/2013-2014/ISU%20Athletc%20Comp%20Report%2013-14.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
WSU - 130k
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865574266/Weber-State-coach-Jody-Sears-agrees-to-short-leash.html?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UCD, Cal Poly, Sac State, Between 195k - 235k
http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/396398/publisher_ID/1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UND - 110k?
http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/396398/publisher_ID/1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SUU - 142k
http://www.utahsright.com/salaries.php?city=suu_database&query=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NAU - 130k
http://jackcentral.com/sports/2013/03/nau-athletic-salaries-on-par-with-big-sky-elite-despite-mediocre-results/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UNC-107k
http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/12086374-113/coach-assistant-salary-dunn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That is nuts that UCD's Gould is the highest paid coach in the BSC with some of the poorest results. Cost of living in CA? All three CA schools are the top three salaries, it seems.

 

[EWURanger]

Baldwin's compensation has been increasing at a good rate over the last four years.
EWU - 152k (total compensation, don't know the base)
Last four years
102,000 113,000 138,421 152,084

http://data.spokesman.com/salaries/state/2014/job-titles/browse/?job_title=Head%20Football%20Coach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other coaches are as follows. Some of the info isn't totally up to date, but nothing is more than two years old. And I think these are just the base salaries. So I don't know what incentives add. I think Baldwin's includes everything. And I couldn't find PSU.

UM - 150k
http://missoulian.com/news/local/mick-delaney-named-university-of-montana-head-football-coach/article_c12c2280-d6b5-11e1-aacf-0019bb2963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MSU - 155k
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/article_e35bb668-4303-11e1-9751-001871e3ce6c.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ISU - 126k
http://www.boardofed.idaho.gov/finance_admin/fin_admin/2013-2014/ISU%20Athletc%20Comp%20Report%2013-14.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
WSU - 130k
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865574266/Weber-State-coach-Jody-Sears-agrees-to-short-leash.html?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UCD, Cal Poly, Sac State, Between 195k - 235k
http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/396398/publisher_ID/1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UND - 110k?
http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/396398/publisher_ID/1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SUU - 142k
http://www.utahsright.com/salaries.php?city=suu_database&query=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NAU - 130k
http://jackcentral.com/sports/2013/03/nau-athletic-salaries-on-par-with-big-sky-elite-despite-mediocre-results/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UNC-107k
http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/12086374-113/coach-assistant-salary-dunn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That is nuts that UCD's Gould is the highest paid coach in the BSC with some of the poorest results. Cost of living in CA? All three CA schools are the top three salaries, it seems.

Not surprising to me at all about the CA schools. Cost of living just makes that much of a difference.

And I have to agree. Baldwin isn't going to be anyone's plan B unless we're talking about some major program.

 

[kalm]

Moore was making over $300K at the end IIRC.

I'd invest in Baldwin and the rest of the coaches before the Gateway. :nod: :twocents:

That's a fairly Apples and Oranges comparison.

How so?

 

[marceagfan5]

The Griz coach rumor is that Delaney is gone, they're top choice is some coach from the mvfc and Baldwin is a fall back.

What Griz fans don't understand is that there coach isn't their major problem the talent they put on the field is. Watching the Griz the last couple years they just don't have the same talent they used to, probably because MSU, EWU, and NDSU stepped up their game and um no longer has pick of the litter in this region.

To think Baldwin would leave for the Griz program is laughable, and it is what it is, just a rumor. He isn't leaving eastern for montana considering who is returning on the field next year...