EWU @ Texas Tech GDT

[EWURanger]

* I hate this schedule and fix the bleachers.

:lol: :clap:

 

[EWURanger]

I think we're finally starting to see who the EWU fans are and the Johnny come lately's. I have plenty of confidence in this team moving forward. This game was ugly. Better this week than next in my opinion. Excuse me for not wanting to scream the sky is falling after an overdue drubbing to a Big 12 school.

I think it's really hard to see EWU not at least be competitive. Typically, we've at least kept our FBS games interesting, at least for almost ten years. I think we got beat pretty handily in a couple of our FBS games before 2010, and still had good seasons. But, it seems since then, these are a good litmus test on whether we will be at the caliber to play in a NC. I'm not ready to write the season off. And, even if we have a rough start to the season, I think the players and coaches can improve in season, and still make it a good one. We have a ton of talent. If they can all put it together, this could be a strong team.

We lost 55-7 to Cal in 2009 and made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We lost 48-24 to Nevada in 2010 and won the National Title. We barely lost to UW in 2011 and went 6-5 and hung with Oregon in 2015 and went 6-5. Point being, you can't judge a season after one pay for play game. I'll wait until week two to panic.

I agree with what you're saying here. It's still concerning watching us get man-handled like that after we've been more than competitive in our last several P5 matchups. Still, one game with a new coaching staff and new players in several key positions. I'm going to reserve judgement until after the Fordham game.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

OK, the final thought on the game. Sitting there watching felt an awful lot like this waxing scene from 40 year old virgin... (profanity in clip)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43j8ROcwpKo[/youtube]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[clawman1]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

LDopa;
If you knew we were going to get "dominated in every facet" why didn't you tell someone?

 

[LDopaPDX]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

LDopa;
If you knew we were going to get "dominated in every facet" why didn't you tell someone?

I don't understand the question. After watching these guys practice this Summer, I'm as shocked as anyone as to why we played so poorly. We certainly should've shown better than that.

Are you suggesting we didn't get dominated? It sure looked that way to me.

 

[clawman1]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

 

[LDopaPDX]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

Yep, we are the Greg Louganis of football schedules. Now let's win the Gold.

 

[clawman1]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

You were happy to accept the glory when we beat WSU and OSU ( I assume). IF this game had gone as hoped we would again be beating our chest how good we are, and set up for a great start.

 

[sammamisheag]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

You were happy to accept the glory when we beat WSU and OSU ( I assume). IF this game had gone as hoped we would again be beating our chest how good we are, and set up for a great start.

All this scheduling nonsense goes away if Alums & fans increase donations on an annual basis.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

You were happy to accept the glory when we beat WSU and OSU ( I assume). IF this game had gone as hoped we would again be beating our chest how good we are, and set up for a great start.

I still don't see where you're coming from. The BCS games are requisite to our finances. They aren't going away. The problem is that our first goal needs to be playoff participation. Having a schedule built with that in mind is just common sense. I don't like playing NDSU the week after Texas Tech and then a long trip to Fordham (with no return trip). It seems shortsighted.

I'm a believer in hoping for the best and preparing for this worst. Sure, we could've beaten Texas Tech. And my International Growth Fund might double in value this year. Does that mean I'm taking all my money and sticking it there? No thanks, I'll leave a little in the Income Fund to protect against potential problems. The same goes for scheduling. I'd love to win these BCS games, but they're always tough. So if we get a loss, there are no outs to build up the win column to make sure we're hitting that playoffs goal.

 

[marceagfan5]

Do you believe Chaves knew they were going to lose 56-10 when he agreed to the TT game?

Of course not. But he should've known it was a possibility. We're kind of screwed as we need to play BCS teams for the $$$. Having one on our schedule is a necessity.

What irritates me is that we now play NDSU and then travel to Fordham. That's a shocking degree of difficulty for an FCS schedule.

You were happy to accept the glory when we beat WSU and OSU ( I assume). IF this game had gone as hoped we would again be beating our chest how good we are, and set up for a great start.

Claw

I think you are missing the point of the argument. The FBS games are great for us, it's the other nonconference games that we schedule which are foolish. When you play in the big sky conference, you don't need to schedule every non conference game against a juggernaut, we are tested enough in conference play, having at least one cupcake in the non-conference would be very beneficial. What we've done the past few years, is left ourselves with very little room for error, and we were fortunate enough to win games against power five teams, because if we didn't when those games, we would not have been seeded nearly as high in the playoffs. I don't think anyone wants to rely on winning games against power five conference teams to help and our seeding in the playoffs, we should be able to lose those type of games and still be fine come playoff seeding time.

The end goal is to win it all, you do that by making the playoffs, and you have more success in the playoffs by playing Home games, you get home games when you have a strong win loss record. If we didn't play in a conference like the big sky, it might be different, but the big sky is one of the top three or four conferences in the FCS, so we don't need the strong non conference schedule every year.

 

[clawman1]

No the point is none of us know what goes on in negotiations. We do not know who has an open date or is willing to play us. It is not like going to Walmart and buying a game. Do you think Chaves is not smart enough to get return games? Do you think he is too lazy to try? Put some faith in the guy that he is doing the best possible for the Eagle program.

 

[kalm]

No the point is none of us know what goes on in negotiations. We do not know who has an open date or is willing to play us. It is not like going to Walmart and buying a game. Do you think Chaves is not smart enough to get return games? Do you think he is too lazy to try? Put some faith in the guy that he is doing the best possible for the Eagle program.

This.

And for 100th time, I'll give you 12-17,000 reasons why NDSU and Montana get MVSU to play in Missoula and Fargo.

 

[clawman1]

No the point is none of us know what goes on in negotiations. We do not know who has an open date or is willing to play us. It is not like going to Walmart and buying a game. Do you think Chaves is not smart enough to get return games? Do you think he is too lazy to try? Put some faith in the guy that he is doing the best possible for the Eagle program.

This.

And for 100th time, I'll give you 12-17,000 reasons why NDSU and Montana get MVSU to play in Missoula and Fargo.

Exactly! Without looking I am going to guess that we have the lowest attendance of regular top ten teams in all of FCS. We can not afford to buy the cushy schedules
Another guess here, most recruits would like the idea of going to New York more than having Central Washington come here.

 

[marceagfan5]

No the point is none of us know what goes on in negotiations. We do not know who has an open date or is willing to play us. It is not like going to Walmart and buying a game. Do you think Chaves is not smart enough to get return games? Do you think he is too lazy to try? Put some faith in the guy that he is doing the best possible for the Eagle program.

We played central Washington in Seattle in 2010. In 2011, the year after we won the national championship, we went to South Dakota without a return game and we played exactly 0 nonconference home games that year, again zero nonconference home games a year after we won the national championship, that's insane! And this year we go all the way to New York without a return game, the week before we go to Missoula. It has nothing to do with dates, it's the fact that we can't step up and get a team to come here. If we can outbid San Francisco to come here for a postseason basketball tournament game, we should be able to pony up some money to get other teams to come here.

And it's probably just a matter of opinion's, but I would much rather play Mead High, rather than go to New York to play team we should beat, but travel 3000 miles each direction and then go to Missoula the next Saturday to play a game that's very important. I just feel like we put ourselves in tough positions to win sometimes. Heck, North Dakota State decided to play a 10 game schedule a couple years back just because they didn't want to screw up their schedule.

 

[clawman1]

How do you know there was any other option than Fordham??? Is an open date better? How do you know there was another option other than the South Dakota deal??? When you KNOW, I'll listen. The NCAA football schedules around the country do not revolve around EWU. If I were a player I'd much rather go to ground zero than Mead!!

 

[tjbison]

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Heck, North Dakota State decided to play a 10 game schedule a couple years back just because they didn't want to screw up their schedule.
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We did? What year was that, we play 3 OOC and 8 conference games every year

 

[Palm Springs Eag]

Heck, North Dakota State decided to play a 10 game schedule a couple years back just because they didn't want to screw up their schedule.
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We did? What year was that, we play 3 OOC and 8 conference games every year
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It was 11 in a 12 game year in 2013.

 

[LDopaPDX]

How do you know there was any other option than Fordham??? Is an open date better? How do you know there was another option other than the South Dakota deal??? When you KNOW, I'll listen. The NCAA football schedules around the country do not revolve around EWU. If I were a player I'd much rather go to ground zero than Mead!!

So, how does a team like Fordham get Eastern Washington into their house for a one off? How does South Dakota get Eastern into their house for a one off? What are they doing that we aren't?

I have no problem with these games, but why not get a return date? It's not like either of those programs outdraw us or are higher profile than us. Our stadium certainly sucks, but 10,000 average attendance for regular season homes games is still better than a lot of FCS teams. Of course, that number could be better if we put some $$$ into the stadium, but that's a whole different conversation.