EWU @ Texas Tech GDT

[scottywashere11]

Rough game today.
Eags had way too many things going against them to win or stay close.

Next Week another HUGE challenge.

I disagree that a cupcake once in awhile are not needed... Especially if its a FCS team that counts toward the playoffs. (I know) they say they scraped that rule, but the did not.

The Eags need a team to regroup on, and ND State is not that team.

I feel as though the hard part is that we schedule games several years in advance. Its near impossible to know what kind of team we will have four years from now, should Chaves decide to make an agreement with another university today, which is what the market demands. If you have a home and home, but are going to the opponent's house first, you are essentially choosing to schedule a game almost five years from now. The Florida game was scheduled quiet a while ago, well before we had Barrier in the fold. We may have struck out and had crap for QB (although unlikely for EWU lol)... My point is, if you schedule a hard FBS team but then are simply obligated to have a return game from a home and home, then you will never make anyone happy. With that mentality, it is near impossible to play a JMU, NDSU, SDSU, OOC game any given year because we do still need those money games. I just wish Chaves would do something about this stadium :rofl:

Taking home - homes with a team you are likely to beat seems safe. Why on Earth do we travel places like Fordham and South Dakota with our even getting a return trip?

Either way, water under the bridge. Chaves has his philosophy and isn't going to change.

I hope this is the kind of game we can bounce off. The problem is that we actually got progressively worse as the game went on. There isn't anything from today we can build from.

I very much agree that it is bulls**t that we did not get return games from either of those teams. I am very vocal about that within my own personal fan group. It aggravates me. We should not be the fun, exotic new team in an FCS stadium if the opponent is not also willing to visit our stadium. Makes us look like we can be taken advantage of.

 

[BorisGudunov]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

 

[ClarkGrizwald]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Keep in mind that the Griz were scheduled to play McNeese rather than Savannah State. But McNeese pulled out of that deal, leaving the Griz scrambling to find another team to host.

 

[FormerEag]

Well damn. That was disappointing. Certainly expected us to at least show up better than that. It's a long season and we've got a great contest coming up next week. Hopefully there's enough on film to correct and make improvements for a team in NDSU that is likely significantly better then TT. I'm confident we will be in a decent position at the end of the season. It's a process.

Go Eags.

 

[joemon10]

NDSU is not significantly better than TT. If those 2 teams had played today TT would beat NDSU. I'm not sure EWU has the physicality to beat NDSU or even compete but Best may want to look who he has as 1st team receivers because I think the 2nd and 3rd group may be better with much more upside. Not sure what to think of the defense, I doubt they will face an offense like this again but then again they got steam rolled today so who knows how they respond to a really good and physical NDSU.

 

[marceagfan5]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

 

[marceagfan5]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

And to be clear, I actually like the FBS game every year, it's just the bullshit like traveling to Fordham with no return game the week before we go to Missoula that sucks year in year out

 

[dudeitsaid]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

And to be clear, I actually like the FBS game every year, it's just the bullshit like traveling to Fordham with no return game the week before we go to Missoula that sucks year in year out

I totally get your point, and have seen some head scratchers in the past. And not to detail the thread. But I think the Fordham game was as much about giving the players a memorable experience as anything. Hearing Best talk about making sure they get to "experience New York" makes me think this was about showing to these kids they can have some pretty incredible experience as a student athlete, rather than just getting to go to Pocatello, or Bozeman, or Pullman. It may not be right for the fans, but I'd be pumped to get to do that as a player. Logistically, that is a challenging turnaround for the team, so I get the pushback from that perspective.

 

[MLEagle]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

All playing a crappy team today would have done is mask our shortcomings for another week.

Plain and simple, this team was not ready to play today and that is a huge worry for me. This was not a fluke game where we turned the ball over 5 times and the bounces just went against us, our guys looked like it was the second week of camp.

I just don't see how this team can compete against a team like NDSU a week after looking this bad.

 

[BorisGudunov]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I just disagree. Playing tough opponents in the long run will help the team more than playing automatic wins. Did you ever play football in high school? If so I think you'd agree that getting banged up against a good opponent does far more than a 5A team slapping 50 or 60 points on a 3A team. And it's good for the players to play an opponent that actually gets them some national recognition.

We can just agree to disagree on this.

 

[clawman1]

Why does Gonzaga play Virginia rather than Whitworth?

 

[kalm]

Why does Gonzaga play Virginia rather than Whitworth?

GU plays Texas Southern, Howard, and Incarnate word this year but I get your point... :lol:

 

[LDopaPDX]

Why does Gonzaga play Virginia rather than Whitworth?

GU plays Texas Southern, Howard, and Incarnate word this year but I get your point... :lol:

Hard to compare basketball to football. You don't get the hell knocked out of you when you lose a basketball game. It's about building a rhythm. We got nothing out of yesterday's game. Despite winning by a million, NDSU works out the kinks in destroying Mississippi Valley State. Also, in both the Big Sky and MVC, your conference schedule is pretty tough. You need those wins, so it makes sense to make sure you have at least one easy non-conference game on the sked.

 

[tjbison]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

to be fair NDSU does try to schedule well but its is difficult. here is a look year by year non con

2010 - @Kansas, Morgan St, #20 South Dakota. 1 top 25 team in MVFC play Lost in Semi's
2011 - Lafayette, St. Francis, @Minnesota. 3 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2012 - Robert Morris, Prairie View A&M, @Colorado State. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2013 - Ferris St, Deleware St, @Kansas St, 3 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2014 - @Iowa St, @Weber St, Incarnate word, #4 Montana. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 5 top 25 overall
2015 - @ #12 Montana, Weber St, North Dakota. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 5 top 25 overall
2016 - #6 Charleston Southern, #8 Eastern Washington, @ #11 Iowa, 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 6 top 25 FCS and 1 top 25 FBS team overall. lost in Semi's

As you can see 2016 was a brutal schedule, we ran to the semis lost some valuable players and were really beat up in the JMU game. Personally our schedule this year is good for the team bad for the fans, but I would rather play for the playoffs than worry about an early Non conference game.

Underlined are the Championship years, IMO they were well rounded schedules outside of 2016

 

[kalm]

It would sure be nice to get a confidence building win against Valparaiso next week instead of a game against NDSU. Chaves doesn't leave us any outs.

EWU doesn't draw the kind of revenue to pay garbage teams to fly clear across the country to play us, nor does playing garbage team prepare us for the playoffs. Agree to disagree on Chave's scheduling resume

I agree.Today's game will actually benefit us far more than killing an inferior team. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior opponents except an extra W.

Losing 56-10 and getting dominated in every facet is what gets us nothing. If we finish 6-5, we're out of the playoffs. It doesn't matter who we lost to. Montana plays Valpo and Savannah State, and if they win 7, they're in. Sometimes you've got to just play the odds. And beyond that, winning builds confidence. Losing big does nothing to help in the long run.

Beating teams with inferior lines and inferior talent does build confidence but it does absolutely nothing for preparing for teams with comparable or better athletes. We will get a lot out of today's game as the season goes on.

You are kidding right? Our scheduling sucks, it has for years, we shouldn't have to beat PAC 12 teams to get a seed in the playoffs. You don't think scheduling cupcakes works in the non conf??? Go look at what ndsu did in their 5 year run, look at our schedule the year we win it all, look at the griz scheduling when they were dominating the FCS. When you play in the big sky, you don't have to play the non conf schedule we do, in fact you shouldn't!

to be fair NDSU does try to schedule well but its is difficult. here is a look year by year non con

2010 - @Kansas, Morgan St, #20 South Dakota. 1 top 25 team in MVFC play Lost in Semi's
2011 - Lafayette, St. Francis, @Minnesota. 3 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2012 - Robert Morris, Prairie View A&M, @Colorado State. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2013 - Ferris St, Deleware St, @Kansas St, 3 top 25 teams in MVFC play
2014 - @Iowa St, @Weber St, Incarnate word, #4 Montana. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 5 top 25 overall
2015 - @ #12 Montana, Weber St, North Dakota. 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 5 top 25 overall
2016 - #6 Charleston Southern, #8 Eastern Washington, @ #11 Iowa, 4 top 25 teams in MVFC play, 6 top 25 FCS and 1 top 25 FBS team overall. lost in Semi's

As you can see 2016 was a brutal schedule, we ran to the semis lost some valuable players and were really beat up in the JMU game. Personally our schedule this year is good for the team bad for the fans, but I would rather play for the playoffs than worry about an early Non conference game.

Underlined are the Championship years, IMO they were well rounded schedules outside of 2016

That's a well rounded list.

Just like with basketball, it's apples to oranges comparing schedules with your home game gate and ours. We'd schedule like you and Montana if we could afford it.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Oops. Have to rethink playing with the big boys

:rofl: at Tech fans referring to TT as "the big boys."

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

To All,
Looked like we didn't have any desire to play the game. Spoke to one of our {layers earlier today, he stated they were missing plays, and dropping the balls thrown to them. The first half we played them very well. The 2nd half we don't have anyone to blame but ourselves. I think the money they got to go play the Red Raiders should sooth the Ass whipping we got. I didn't think they was going to score that much points of us. FWYI Aaron Neary is now a Rams, he played for us a few years ago. So the Rams has Samson Ebucam, Cooper Kupp, and now Neary on the team. In case you haven't heard Kendrick Bourne also made the 47ers Roster, Marks fm WSU didn't. Get ready for NDSU Saturday. Go Eagles!!!!!Vic E. Wallace

 

[LDopaPDX]

To All,
Looked like we didn't have any desire to play the game. Spoke to one of our {layers earlier today, he stated they were missing plays, and dropping the balls thrown to them. The first half we played them very well. The 2nd half we don't have anyone to blame but ourselves. I think the money they got to go play the Red Raiders should sooth the Ass whipping we got. I didn't think they was going to score that much points of us. FWYI Aaron Neary is now a Rams, he played for us a few years ago. So the Rams has Samson Ebucam, Cooper Kupp, and now Neary on the team. In case you haven't heard Kendrick Bourne also made the 47ers Roster, Marks fm WSU didn't. Get ready for NDSU Saturday. Go Eagles!!!!!Vic E. Wallace

I agree 100%. It just felt like we lost our intensity after the first few minutes and then it just went downhill from there.

Great news about Bourne; I hadn't heard that he made the final cut yet.

 

[luckyintheorder]

OK, the final thought on the game. Sitting there watching felt an awful lot like this waxing scene from 40 year old virgin... (profanity in clip)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43j8ROcwpKo[/youtube]

 

[Obzerver]

The defense did a great job first few series against a great offense. Then we turn it over and dropped balls and not take advantage of what the defense gave them and get a TD or two. That's kinda what we do is score pts. and I liked play calling early...the plays were there. We didn't score early and in this game we needed to in helping set the tone. Towards end of 1st half it looked as if collectively they started checking out mentally and it carried over to the second half.
We have recruited some super football players last several years and they have to start playing like it and I believe they will.

* I hate this schedule and fix the bleachers.