gobears2010
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DowntownBear said:
You realize the last three sentences were a joke, right?
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FIRE B.J. HILL!!!!
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You realize the last three sentences were a joke, right?
Ursa Major
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DowntownBear said:
I say "Fire Monfort" Don't get me wrong...I want his $$$, but he can keep his advice and guidance.
DowntownBear
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Anyone seeing the flaws yet or are we still drinking the B.J. Hill kool-aid? To go out on the floor with as much talent as we do in this conference and lay an egg like that is embarrassing. Svihovec coming off the bench to score only four points is bad coaching and he's regressed in his years here under hill. Barden had a bad game which is fine because nobody is perfect but the fact that hill can't figure out how to scrape some wins in these situations will be our demise.
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Anonymous
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DowntownBear said:
Wow, spewing negativity... Hoping they would go undefeated for the entire year? Coaches can't have a bad game? Or two? You do know we are tied for 1st place in the conference, are number 14 on the mid major list, and have a pretty good team and coaching staff. Could we have won that game? sure, but fire B.J. Hill? Your nuts... I must admit, this Kool-Aid is mighty tasty as far as this fan is concerned. If anyone should be fired, it should be you? Are you even a fan? Or just someone trolling? If you are a fan, you are a horrible one... I demand your firing as a fan immediately... You have done nothing for this team, your opinions are off, and you make the rest of us look bad. I think as a team we would be better off getting rid of you and going out and getting that fan from Montana that wears that funny hat, now he would make a great fan for this team, I am starting a new post: FIRE DOWNTOWN BEAR!!!!
beardevil39
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Yes, fire DowntownBear ! Tied for first , a mid major 14 ! This is pretty good tasting Kool-Aid !
DowntownBear
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I'm a fan and a realist. I'm also completely baffled that no one sees this. We're far and away the best team in this conference on paper so yes I did believe we should win every conference game. Yes it's early in the conference schedule and we're tied for first but we have already lost the tiebreaker. We all know what's at stake here, hosting the big sky tournament is huge as far as being able to possibly make it to the ncaa tournament! But if hill can't get the players to believe this then we need someone in a position to energize these young men and make the right tactical decisions on the floor. Get mad at me all you want but all you need to do is look at Svihovec's lack of growth and development to know what kind of coach hill is. Svihovec should've been the next Beitzel or even better! I certainly hope we go out and take care of Montana tonight like we all know they should!!!!
beardevil39
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DowntownBear said:
Not sure if you have anything to back up your claims regarding Svihovec other than your personal gut feelings. Lets just see how the next few weeks go. If you are in the mood to fire someone, head over to the Football Forum where there is a legitimate gripe !!
This thread is noticeably silent when we're winning, and it pops up with each of our losses (all 4 of them-- road games, 3 against higher-rated RPI teams--and we're still 10-4).
Losing to MSU by 15 was agreedly repugnant, but let's see how BJ rallies the troops for the game tonight. Dealing with adversity builds character: Some years back ('03-'04) St. Joseph's, featuring two NBA 1st round draft picks, Jameer "National Player of the Year" Nelson and Delonte West, went 27-0 during the regular season, and entered the NCAA tourney ranked #1 in the country. Maybe if they'd lost a game and dealt with some character-building adversity, they would've made it to the Sweet 16.
Losing to MSU by 15 was agreedly repugnant, but let's see how BJ rallies the troops for the game tonight. Dealing with adversity builds character: Some years back ('03-'04) St. Joseph's, featuring two NBA 1st round draft picks, Jameer "National Player of the Year" Nelson and Delonte West, went 27-0 during the regular season, and entered the NCAA tourney ranked #1 in the country. Maybe if they'd lost a game and dealt with some character-building adversity, they would've made it to the Sweet 16.
OK, you guys have sucked me in. Regarding the thread topic I think a D1 basketball coach behavior on the sidelines probably give insight to their personality in real life. Basketball isn't all about X's and O's. IMO, Getting young men to achieve to the best player and grow as individuals is a sign of a good coach. This is where some guys have it and I'm not sure Hill does.
Re: Svihovec, you guys need to look at his minutes played and production. He has lost about 10 minutes of playing time this conference year compared to last and his production isn't that far from last years. You guys also need to Identify who's on the floor when the bears are playing good basketball. Most of the time its a lineup like this: Svihovec, Barden, Unruh (Lee or Huskisson) and a point. The one guy never on the floor is Osborne. This simple fact makes me shake my head at Hill. It gets back to my thread about Who is your starting lineup. When coaches don't identify and award young men with starts and minutes played you have the potential for lack of growth as a player as some are suggesting. There is also way more to basketball than how many points did a kid score. If you look at match ups, Svihovec has always defended the opposing teams top scoring guards.
Lets hope the Bears can get two wins this weekend against NA and Sac St. Any thoughts
Re: Svihovec, you guys need to look at his minutes played and production. He has lost about 10 minutes of playing time this conference year compared to last and his production isn't that far from last years. You guys also need to Identify who's on the floor when the bears are playing good basketball. Most of the time its a lineup like this: Svihovec, Barden, Unruh (Lee or Huskisson) and a point. The one guy never on the floor is Osborne. This simple fact makes me shake my head at Hill. It gets back to my thread about Who is your starting lineup. When coaches don't identify and award young men with starts and minutes played you have the potential for lack of growth as a player as some are suggesting. There is also way more to basketball than how many points did a kid score. If you look at match ups, Svihovec has always defended the opposing teams top scoring guards.
Lets hope the Bears can get two wins this weekend against NA and Sac St. Any thoughts
beardevil39
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bearuncle said:
LOL on suckingyou in. I agree with you regarding your lineup but isn't it nice to be able to mix n match all these guys. It seems to be working. I really like Svihovec. I once said, "Kevin is the new Devin " but I have seen Kevin have some really bad nights also (as anyone can) and some really really good nights. And he is finally playing some great defense ( hhhmmm coaching ? ) I am not saying BJ is the latest and greatest but here we are with a really good team and a really good record. So are we debating or are we bitching ? Like I said, if you really want to bitch, head over to the Football Forum where there is plenty of bitching to go around. Go Bears this week !
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Anonymous
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I believe that many atheletes would say about there coaches "He is like a father figure." Coach Hill is not that guy. I am not sure how many of you have ever had an extended conversation with him but I wouldn't categorize him as a personable guy, not that that is bad, it is just who he is. I like Coach Hill a lot, I respect him, and believe he is the man for the job. he greatly understands my kid, how to motivate him, and what he needs to do to get better. They wont be spending much time hugging it out or talking about many things related to off the court issues. I do not feel that he is a "relationship builder" but, there is no arguing that he is a very good coach. I believe the relationship building has been happening with his coaching staff and the players, not so much with Coach Hill. The man knows basketball and doesn't let all of the other stuff cloud what needs to be done on the court and I have to admit, I kind of like that.
Individual players may not be getting better or worse or whatever under Coach Hill but the team is wining and working well together. I do believe in the rewarding of starters to get an understanding as to the rank structure of the team, but when you have a team like this, with this much talent, and this deep, I believe Coach Hill has built a "no matter who is on the floor, we can win" culture... And that in itself is extremely hard to do. So, who cares who individually is doing what... The team looks great, plays great, has confidence, and knows it can contend. Maybe a few hiccups along the way with teams they should beat might've good to build a little character and make them more competitive later in the year when it really counts...
Individual players may not be getting better or worse or whatever under Coach Hill but the team is wining and working well together. I do believe in the rewarding of starters to get an understanding as to the rank structure of the team, but when you have a team like this, with this much talent, and this deep, I believe Coach Hill has built a "no matter who is on the floor, we can win" culture... And that in itself is extremely hard to do. So, who cares who individually is doing what... The team looks great, plays great, has confidence, and knows it can contend. Maybe a few hiccups along the way with teams they should beat might've good to build a little character and make them more competitive later in the year when it really counts...
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bearuncle said:
Glad that the banter has been getting interesting enough to "suck you in." I have been amazed that since I joined the blog there is 12,000 students and roughly 20 or so regulars on here on a regular basis. Is there another blog that they all go to? Or is the interest level of the teams really that low? And how do we get the interest level up?
I think a coaches job is to win games. That's how he provides for his family and so he does what he thinks is best to be able to do that. I would say 11-4 at this point is hard to argue. Every player that plays significant minutes is playing less minutes per game this year. Perhaps that has something to do with the success. Man what a tough job. I'm sure if the record this year was what it had been the last two years he would have plenty of people complaining and asking for his job then too. Poor guy can't catch a break with some people.
Godeev said:
This is a very insightful post. I would suggest it has been my exact experience with Hill. Do you fire a coach for the lack of personality of course not. Could it be why we talk about the lack of developement of some kids or a team in general you bet.
A bigger question in my mind: does Hill have the skill set and personality to develope UNC into a Big Sky power? Or are we going to have 1 to 2 years of tough sledding between solid clubs like this years squad? My guess is he has achieved to his level of success and I don't see him headed to a major college like Tad Boyle did. Does that mean he should be fired? No IMO it just means he should grow as an individual and coach just like he asks the young men that play for him.
bearsradio
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Clearing up something from the discussion on Tevin's minutes & stats: he's playing fewer minutes because he's not the starting point guard, as he had been all of last year and late the year previous. With Wilson & Spence in place, Tevin's moved to being part of a rotation for the 2 & 3 spots: Tate, Tim & him. However, three players for two starting spots...All three have started at varying times already this year, and it could change again at some point.
So, let's lay it out like this:
PG: Wilson, Spence, Svihovec
SG: Unruh, Huskisson, Svihovec, Wilson
3: Unruh, Huskisson, Svihovec, Johnson
F: Barden, Lee, Huskisson, Johnson
C: Osborne, Barden, Lee, McDavis, Keane
That's a ton of flexibility there, depending on what game situations dictate.
So, let's lay it out like this:
PG: Wilson, Spence, Svihovec
SG: Unruh, Huskisson, Svihovec, Wilson
3: Unruh, Huskisson, Svihovec, Johnson
F: Barden, Lee, Huskisson, Johnson
C: Osborne, Barden, Lee, McDavis, Keane
That's a ton of flexibility there, depending on what game situations dictate.
