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Future Schedules

clawman said:
Can't believe I am even bringing this up in the sense of openness...
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34418&sid=1cff7d9f8e49efee590ff295ea94ab39" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It all comes down to...can we win one of those first 3 on the road? I don't like the schedule at all, but if we can win one of those games, we will be ok, the problem is, we will be heavy underdogs in all 3.

Toledo and SHSU are both 2000+ mile trips, that takes a toll on a team, its completely different than traveling to Moscow, Pullman, or even Corvallis. Plus, the Beavers were really good this year, Toledo was pretty good and returns a lot, and Sam Houston returns everyone on offense that killed us. It will definitely be an uphill battle to start the season, and if we can't win one of those first 3 games, we almost have to run the table in conference...

Here is to a win against the Beavers so we can put all are worries aside!

Good news is, SHSU owes us a return game in 2014 and that schedule is shaping up to be a good one if we can add that 6th home game instead of a 2nd FBS in 2014.
 
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!
 
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...
 
I don't know why anyone would think we would be heavy under-dogs against SHSU. Yes, they have a lot coming back, but so do we. Also, I think I read somewhere that they lose a few O-Lineman, so we will see if they will be able to run the ball as well.

I personally don't think they'll be able to stop Adams. :twocents:
 
marceagfan5 said:
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...

I'm now going the exact opposite. :lol:

We have 6 really tough games in OSU, Toledo, SHSU, Montana, MSU, and Poly. And 5 of them are on the road. The one saving grace is we avoid SAC and NAU...two very talented programs of late.

I'm a glass half full guy too and I'm sure the schedule is somewhat of a neccessary evil, but I would be pleasantly suprised if we're better than 8-4 and a playoff bubble team.

(sorry for going all Dopa on you guys. :mrgreen: )
 
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...

I'm now going the exact opposite. :lol:

We have 6 really tough games in OSU, Toledo, SHSU, Montana, MSU, and Poly. And 5 of them are on the road. The one saving grace is we avoid SAC and NAU...two very talented programs of late.

I'm a glass half full guy too and I'm sure the schedule is somewhat of a neccessary evil, but I would be pleasantly suprised if we're better than 8-4 and a playoff bubble team.

(sorry for going all Dopa on you guys. :mrgreen: )

One incorrect item, though, we do get Montana State at home.
 
LDopaPDX said:
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...

I'm now going the exact opposite. :lol:

We have 6 really tough games in OSU, Toledo, SHSU, Montana, MSU, and Poly. And 5 of them are on the road. The one saving grace is we avoid SAC and NAU...two very talented programs of late.

I'm a glass half full guy too and I'm sure the schedule is somewhat of a neccessary evil, but I would be pleasantly suprised if we're better than 8-4 and a playoff bubble team.

(sorry for going all Dopa on you guys. :mrgreen: )

One incorrect item, though, we do get Montana State at home.

That's why I said 5 of those 6 were on the road.
 
kalm said:
LDopaPDX said:
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...

I'm now going the exact opposite. :lol:

We have 6 really tough games in OSU, Toledo, SHSU, Montana, MSU, and Poly. And 5 of them are on the road. The one saving grace is we avoid SAC and NAU...two very talented programs of late.

I'm a glass half full guy too and I'm sure the schedule is somewhat of a neccessary evil, but I would be pleasantly suprised if we're better than 8-4 and a playoff bubble team.

(sorry for going all Dopa on you guys. :mrgreen: )

One incorrect item, though, we do get Montana State at home.

That's why I said 5 of those 6 were on the road.


Whoops, my bad. I didn't read closely.
 
kalm said:
marceagfan5 said:
clawman said:
:clap: I would not go far as to say we are heavy under dogs in all of the first three games.
OSU is a Pac 12 school that has been upset by a BSC school so I would except them to be ready. After the short trip to OSU we play at home before the trip to Toledo. You are right Toledo was a young and winning team last year, but beatable. (It just tougher, that's probably Chaves' fault too) http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18000&ATCLID=206293267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is a bye week between the Toledo game and SH game.
Sam Houston loses some starters on the o-line, a couple of key receivers, and a couple of starting linebackers. Conditioning will be important in Texas, hot and humid.
Underdogs- yes, heavy underdogs- not in my opinion. My glass is half FULL!
And yes I do believe we can run the field in conference. Vernon will make McGee look like a 3rd stringer next year!!

I am becoming more optimistic about the schedule, I still don't like it, but nothing I can do now. I like the fact that we have a bye between Toledo and SHSU. I think we are the best team in the conference next year, especially since MSU comes here, hopefully we don't have to win the autobid to make the playoffs, but if we need to, I think we will. I just want to see us win one of those out of conference games for home playoff positioning (my playoff glass is half full) and I think the Sam Houston game is the one to do it. Vernon Adams is going to make great strides next year and our offense is going to continue to roll. We lose some Great WR's, but we have some great ones in the waiting, it is time for them to step up. If our D-line and LB's can fill in next year, we are going to be just fine...

I'm now going the exact opposite. :lol:

We have 6 really tough games in OSU, Toledo, SHSU, Montana, MSU, and Poly. And 5 of them are on the road. The one saving grace is we avoid SAC and NAU...two very talented programs of late.

I'm a glass half full guy too and I'm sure the schedule is somewhat of a neccessary evil, but I would be pleasantly suprised if we're better than 8-4 and a playoff bubble team.

(sorry for going all Dopa on you guys. :mrgreen: )

It is definitely going to be extremely tough this year, I guess I am just trying to convince myself it will be ok because there nothing we can do that change it, I have never liked the schedule, never like 2011's either...

We have a great team, but the way our schedule sets up, we may have to win the conference auto bid to make the playoffs. With the extra game, teams will have to win a minimum of 8 FCS games, if not 9. If we don't win any of our non-conf games, we will have to win the conference autobid.

I think a lot of people underestimate how good Sam Houston is going to be, especially on the road. That is going to be a really, really tough game, we will have had a bye, but we will also be coming off of 2 FBS games. We will probably be 10 pt underdogs in that one and 20+ for both our FBS games. Our non-conf games aren't Idaho & Wazzu, OSU and Toledo are a lot better than both of those teams, and Sam Houston in their place is as tough as road FCS game as you can find outside of App State and maybe Montana.

I'm optimistic but I'm also realistic about next year, we will definitely have an uphill battle
 
kalm said:
Our non-conf games aren't Idaho & Wazzu, OSU and Toledo are a lot better than both of those teams, and Sam Houston in their place is as tough as road FCS game as you can find outside of App State and maybe Montana.
NDSU
 
Is the AD the "only one" who decides and puts together scheduling or does he hash ideas, requests, home and home games with Coach B or other AD's? Just curious about the process.
 
Pretty sure Chaves has the final considering the budget implications. But I'm also sure Beau is involved.
 
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/2/14/3988164/toledo-football-player-ben-pike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

or was he looking ahead at the schedule...All kidding aside, as a cancer survivor, this is a very admirable show of support to the one you love. I pray her treatment is a success. LIVESTRONG !!!
 
EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!
 
sammamisheag said:
EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!

The committee takes your schedule into consideration, but you have to have a certain number of wins to even be in that discussion.

As far as NAU, you can't blame their schedule on them. They can only schedule their non conf games, and they had 2 against FBS teams, which they won one of them. They didn't get to play EWU or MSU, but it wasn't their fault. I think they were screwed by the committee, they would have been ranked a lot higher to end the year last year if they started the year ranked a bit higher.

Not a chance we make the playoffs going 8-4. Remember we have a D2 on our schedule so that would mean our record is 7-4 in the committee's eyes. Only way we get in the playoffs with 4 losses is if we win the conference auto bid. Typically 7 FCS wins gets you in the playoffs, but with an extra game next year its probably going to take 8 FCS wins.
 
marceagfan5 said:
sammamisheag said:
EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!

The committee takes your schedule into consideration, but you have to have a certain number of wins to even be in that discussion.

As far as NAU, you can't blame their schedule on them. They can only schedule their non conf games, and they had 2 against FBS teams, which they won one of them. They didn't get to play EWU or MSU, but it wasn't their fault. I think they were screwed by the committee, they would have been ranked a lot higher to end the year last year if they started the year ranked a bit higher.

Not a chance we make the playoffs going 8-4. Remember we have a D2 on our schedule so that would mean our record is 7-4 in the committee's eyes. Only way we get in the playoffs with 4 losses is if we win the conference auto bid. Typically 7 FCS wins gets you in the playoffs, but with an extra game next year its probably going to take 8 FCS wins.

We will get in at 8-4. 2013 the field expands to 24... one extra bid for the NEC I think, and 3 more at larges.
 
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
marceagfan5 said:
sammamisheag said:
EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!

The committee takes your schedule into consideration, but you have to have a certain number of wins to even be in that discussion.

As far as NAU, you can't blame their schedule on them. They can only schedule their non conf games, and they had 2 against FBS teams, which they won one of them. They didn't get to play EWU or MSU, but it wasn't their fault. I think they were screwed by the committee, they would have been ranked a lot higher to end the year last year if they started the year ranked a bit higher.

Not a chance we make the playoffs going 8-4. Remember we have a D2 on our schedule so that would mean our record is 7-4 in the committee's eyes. Only way we get in the playoffs with 4 losses is if we win the conference auto bid. Typically 7 FCS wins gets you in the playoffs, but with an extra game next year its probably going to take 8 FCS wins.

We will get in at 8-4. 2013 the field expands to 24... one extra bid for the NEC I think, and 3 more at larges.

Hopefully we don't go 8-4 and have to find out. The Patriot is the league with the new auto-bid. There were 2 bigger conference teams left out at 8-3 this year (NAU & Towson) and 7-8 teams from smaller conferences so I guess we will see. The additional 3 at large bids will help.
 

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