Future Schedules

[LDopaPDX]

EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!

The committee takes your schedule into consideration, but you have to have a certain number of wins to even be in that discussion.

As far as NAU, you can't blame their schedule on them. They can only schedule their non conf games, and they had 2 against FBS teams, which they won one of them. They didn't get to play EWU or MSU, but it wasn't their fault. I think they were screwed by the committee, they would have been ranked a lot higher to end the year last year if they started the year ranked a bit higher.

Not a chance we make the playoffs going 8-4. Remember we have a D2 on our schedule so that would mean our record is 7-4 in the committee's eyes. Only way we get in the playoffs with 4 losses is if we win the conference auto bid. Typically 7 FCS wins gets you in the playoffs, but with an extra game next year its probably going to take 8 FCS wins.

We will get in at 8-4. 2013 the field expands to 24... one extra bid for the NEC I think, and 3 more at larges.

Hopefully we don't go 8-4 and have to find out. The Patriot is the league with the new auto-bid. There were 2 bigger conference teams left out at 8-3 this year (NAU & Towson) and 7-8 teams from smaller conferences so I guess we will see. The additional 3 at large bids will help.

8-4 will be bubble, and then you have to hope for help from the other conferences. Regardless, it would mean opening on the road in the second round or hosting in the first, neither of which is preferable. No team has ever won the championship starting in round 1 (in the modern era) or on the road.

My problem is, why in the hell would you schedule with that as a sort of best-case outcome? Why not get the Valparaiso's of the world on the sked, and keep the FBS games to a solitary one. I just don't get the concept behind making things tougher than they need to be.

 

[kalm]

EWUs schedule will be under consideration from the selection committee. NAU was left out last year since they didn't play anybody. There were teams that got at large berths over the Jacks with worse records.

Eags are catching OSU at the right time. The Beavs historically struggle in September.

EWU got a higher seed over MSU even though the Cats were ranked higher as a result of EWUs win in Bozeman.

The committee takes your schedule into their process.

8-4 with EWU's 2013 schedule will get them in based on strength of schedule.

May not get a #1 or #2 seed but they will get in.

Only way to avoid these FBS games is to increase donations so EWU doesn't need the $$$ from these games.

Pony Up People!!!!!!

The committee takes your schedule into consideration, but you have to have a certain number of wins to even be in that discussion.

As far as NAU, you can't blame their schedule on them. They can only schedule their non conf games, and they had 2 against FBS teams, which they won one of them. They didn't get to play EWU or MSU, but it wasn't their fault. I think they were screwed by the committee, they would have been ranked a lot higher to end the year last year if they started the year ranked a bit higher.

Not a chance we make the playoffs going 8-4. Remember we have a D2 on our schedule so that would mean our record is 7-4 in the committee's eyes. Only way we get in the playoffs with 4 losses is if we win the conference auto bid. Typically 7 FCS wins gets you in the playoffs, but with an extra game next year its probably going to take 8 FCS wins.

We will get in at 8-4. 2013 the field expands to 24... one extra bid for the NEC I think, and 3 more at larges.

Hopefully we don't go 8-4 and have to find out. The Patriot is the league with the new auto-bid. There were 2 bigger conference teams left out at 8-3 this year (NAU & Towson) and 7-8 teams from smaller conferences so I guess we will see. The additional 3 at large bids will help.

8-4 will be bubble, and then you have to hope for help from the other conferences. Regardless, it would mean opening on the road in the second round or hosting in the first, neither of which is preferable. No team has ever won the championship starting in round 1 (in the modern era) or on the road.

My problem is, why in the hell would you schedule with that as a sort of best-case outcome? Why not get the Valparaiso's of the world on the sked, and keep the FBS games to a solitary one. I just don't get the concept behind making things tougher than they need to be.

I think JMU won their chipper playing on the road including the first round.

And yes, a bubble team.

 

[sammamisheag]

The AD has no choice but to schedule games like OSU and Toledo unless donations increase drastically.

Do the math, you have a 10,000 seat stadium where 10-20% of those are students. EWU doesn't generate much revenue compared to the Montana schools. Have you been to Missoula and Bozeman? Notice how much bigger their stadiums are and how much more revenue they genereate from ticket sales.

This is why the Gateway Project is important.

In order to budget each year they need to play one if not two "payday" games a year.

To avoid this, get out your VISA and start donating. Trust me, no one in Cheney wants to schedule these games but they have no choice unless all of us.....ALL OF US.....give to the level where they don't need FBS gate revenue to fund the program.

 

[marceagfan5]

Anyone see what MSU did to finalize their 2013 schedule?

MSU bought out their game against NDSU this year to take more money to play at SMU. With the extra money they are receiving they were able to pay an FCS and D2 to come to Bozeman, so they have 6 games at home. If they would have kept the NDSU game, they would most likely have had 5 home games.

The timing of this is complete crap and screws NDSU with their schedule, but you can see the importance that MSU puts on playing home games, which in return brings more wins and playoff games.

 

[clawman1]

Anyone see what MSU did to finalize their 2013 schedule?

MSU bought out their game against NDSU this year to take more money to play at SMU. With the extra money they are receiving they were able to pay an FCS and D2 to come to Bozeman, so they have 6 games at home. If they would have kept the NDSU game, they would most likely have had 5 home games.

The timing of this is complete crap and screws NDSU with their schedule, but you can see the importance that MSU puts on playing home games, which in return brings more wins and playoff games.

And they get closer to 20,000 fans and we get closer to 2.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Anyone see what MSU did to finalize their 2013 schedule?

MSU bought out their game against NDSU this year to take more money to play at SMU. With the extra money they are receiving they were able to pay an FCS and D2 to come to Bozeman, so they have 6 games at home. If they would have kept the NDSU game, they would most likely have had 5 home games.

The timing of this is complete crap and screws NDSU with their schedule, but you can see the importance that MSU puts on playing home games, which in return brings more wins and playoff games.

And they get closer to 20,000 fans and we get closer to 2.

Two excellent posts.... Point and counter-point. The only thing I'd add is that we always draw best in September (whether school is in session or not). It would really be helpful to at least TRY to schedule non-con games when the weather is nice and see what happens. I remember non-con games early in the year against Southern Utah- before they joined the Big Sky- and Central Washington each selling out. Western Oregon will be our first non-con in Cheney in 4 years (crazy, huh?) and if it draws well, hopefully our AD will see the folly of his ways.

It certainly would be nice for our football program to have an AD working for us instead of against us....

 

[marceagfan5]

Anyone see what MSU did to finalize their 2013 schedule?

MSU bought out their game against NDSU this year to take more money to play at SMU. With the extra money they are receiving they were able to pay an FCS and D2 to come to Bozeman, so they have 6 games at home. If they would have kept the NDSU game, they would most likely have had 5 home games.

The timing of this is complete crap and screws NDSU with their schedule, but you can see the importance that MSU puts on playing home games, which in return brings more wins and playoff games.

And they get closer to 20,000 fans and we get closer to 2.

Two excellent posts.... Point and counter-point. The only thing I'd add is that we always draw best in September (whether school is in session or not). It would really be helpful to at least TRY to schedule non-con games when the weather is nice and see what happens. I remember non-con games early in the year against Southern Utah- before they joined the Big Sky- and Central Washington each selling out. Western Oregon will be our first non-con in Cheney in 4 years (crazy, huh?) and if it draws well, hopefully our AD will see the folly of his ways.

It certainly would be nice for our football program to have an AD working for us instead of against us....

Hopefully we will avoid the problem with the 2011 and 2013 schedules after this year....a great turnout to our 2013 home games would sure help. The good news is, Sam Houston owes us a return game in 2014 in September, so that is a step in the right direction...

 

[loloman]

Has anyone heard anything about Oregon State trying to get out of our game with them?

 

[EWURanger]

Has anyone heard anything about Oregon State trying to get out of our game with them?

No, have you? If so, they would have to buy us out (good thing) and it would free us up to bring in another FCS team. That's a good thing.

Although, knowing how scheduling goes in recent years we would probably just try to find another FBS game to play.

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

clawman,
Was nice to have seen you yesterday. Also was glad to see Brandon Kaufman on the turf doing some sprints. Also to have met his Fiance.
If I am not mistaking, we can have 90 Players before classes start, once classes start in September we can have 99, if I am not mistaking. Of course all doesn't travel. Don't know what the NCAA came up with, I think we can not wear all red on the Red Turf. They think it is an advantage. I knew Boise State had something some thing like that came down this year, about their Blue Turf and wearing Blue Uniforms.

The NCAA always come up with rules taking the fun out of the game. Reminder, tomorrows MBB Game is at 605pm, Saturday is @ 105 opps! 2:05pm :lol: See you tomorrow night at the game. Vic Wallace

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Not necessarily schedule related, but tonight I finally rewatched the SHSU game for the first time (I attended, and was in and out of memorable consciousness in the second half :lol: ). The schedule may be tough, but I'm even more confident we'll beat the Kats, a game we need to win. Adams is a stud, and Clark/Hill are going to step into some big shoes just fine. :nod:

 

[clawman1]

Not necessarily schedule related, but tonight I finally rewatched the SHSU game for the first time (I attended, and was in and out of memorable consciousness in the second half :lol: ). The schedule may be tough, but I'm even more confident we'll beat the Kats, a game we need to win. Adams is a stud, and Clark/Hill are going to step into some big shoes just fine. :nod:

I'm just going off of memory and that gets a little foggier all the time, but what happened to the defense in the first half and what did they change in the second half?

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Not necessarily schedule related, but tonight I finally rewatched the SHSU game for the first time (I attended, and was in and out of memorable consciousness in the second half :lol: ). The schedule may be tough, but I'm even more confident we'll beat the Kats, a game we need to win. Adams is a stud, and Clark/Hill are going to step into some big shoes just fine. :nod:

I'm just going off of memory and that gets a little foggier all the time, but what happened to the defense in the first half and what did they change in the second half?

We played two high safeties in the first half to guard against the deep ball like they popped MSU with frequently, leaving only 7 in the box against the run. In the second half we fixed that, and pursued the ball a lot better.

 

[clawman1]

If you were not aware of the podcast on goeags.com Chaves gives some insight on this years schedule and scheduling challenges in general.
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[clawman1]

From what I can tell Army is open on August 30 2014 as is San Diego State

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

From what I can tell Army is open on August 30 2014 as is San Diego State

We could beat both. :nod:

 

[clawman1]

I would think it would seem pretty cool to a young man to be able to go play against Army. I have now been informed the schedule for 2014 is complete.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I would think it would seem pretty cool to a young man to be able to go play against Army. I have now been informed the schedule for 2014 is complete.

2nd FBS, D-II, or did we win the jackpot and somehow get an FCS team?

 

[clawman1]

DII Western Montana hno:

 

[ewueagle2010]

DII Western Montana hno:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Montana-Western isn't even D-II. I believe they are NAIA.