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Looking Into the Future... Only Look if You're Optimistic

Which would you rather see happening come March-Madness

  • I just want a tournament win

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • Receive a 16 seed and play another 16 seed, then play Wichita State

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • Receive a 16 seed and get smashed by 20+ points

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Receive a 15 seed and lose by 10-19 points

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Receive a 14 seed and lose by less than 10 points

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
I know everyone is still getting over that disgusting loss to NAU from Saturday night.. Joe's new bracket has WSU playing as a 16 seed vs. 1 seed Arizona in San Diego... What do you guys make of this matchup? UVU is still in th play in game, while BYU has dropped to a 12* seed.
 
WSUfan said:
I know everyone is still getting over that disgusting loss to NAU from Saturday night.. Joe's new bracket has WSU playing as a 16 seed vs. 1 seed Arizona in San Diego... What do you guys make of this matchup? UVU is still in th play in game, while BYU has dropped to a 16 seed.


I saw that this morning. I like that Matchup with AZ, & travel for all, team & fans would make San Diego great. I still think we can get better than a 16 when the Dust settles though. We'll see what happens in the pacific NW this week. If we play in SD count me in, La Jolla beach has been calling my name.
 
I much rather play a pac-12 team than some team from back east... weberski.. question for you. If WSU had to be a 16 seed, would you rather wsu be a straight 16 seed playing a 1 seed, or wsu beginning the tournament playing another 16 seed, then possibly playing a 16 seed??
 
WSUfan said:
I much rather play a pac-12 team than some team from back east... weberski.. question for you. If WSU had to be a 16 seed, would you rather wsu be a straight 16 seed playing a 1 seed, or wsu beginning the tournament playing another 16 seed, then possibly playing a 16 seed??

To me it's a no brainer 16 seed playing a 1, regardless of location. Hopefully we stay out West though. Plus come come Round 2, that's 3 games in 5 days, guys might be tired :winky:
 
For what it's worth: if RPI has a big part in seeding (?) then Weber State (181 now/prev 159) is practically guaranteed a 16 seed. Others: UVU (140) Montana (193) USU (131) BYU (35) Utah (82). From NCAA RPI as of 3 Mar. :yikes:
 
AlumniWSU said:
For what it's worth: if RPI has a big part in seeding (?) then Weber State (181 now/prev 159) is practically guaranteed a 16 seed. Others: UVU (140) Montana (193) USU (131) BYU (35) Utah (82). From NCAA RPI as of 3 Mar. :yikes:

Nope, you're not accounting for conference tourney upsets that happen every year.
 
WeberSki said:
AlumniWSU said:
For what it's worth: if RPI has a big part in seeding (?) then Weber State (181 now/prev 159) is practically guaranteed a 16 seed. Others: UVU (140) Montana (193) USU (131) BYU (35) Utah (82). From NCAA RPI as of 3 Mar. :yikes:

Nope, you're not accounting for conference tourney upsets that happen every year.

We shall see 'WeberSki' those conference tourney upsets might play into our favor or not. And again, are you saying that those upset teams winning tourneys are going to be lower RPIs than Weber St.? If your crystal ball says a #15 seed (or #14 :yikes:) then fine and dandy, but mine says a #16 seed. We shall see, keep your fingers crossed and after all, it might just be another team representing the BSC (should note that possibility). What are the odds...it's what makes this time of year in college basketball super fun!! :coffee:
 
AlumniWSU said:
WeberSki said:
AlumniWSU said:
For what it's worth: if RPI has a big part in seeding (?) then Weber State (181 now/prev 159) is practically guaranteed a 16 seed. Others: UVU (140) Montana (193) USU (131) BYU (35) Utah (82). From NCAA RPI as of 3 Mar. :yikes:

Nope, you're not accounting for conference tourney upsets that happen every year.

We shall see 'WeberSki' those conference tourney upsets might play into our favor or not. And again, are you saying that those upset teams winning tourneys are going to be lower RPIs than Weber St.? If your crystal ball says a #15 seed (or #14 :yikes:) then fine and dandy, but mine says a #16 seed. We shall see, keep your fingers crossed and after all, it might just be another team representing the BSC (should note that possibility). What are the odds... :coffee:

You are right, we very well might not win this thing on our home floor. Saturday night was a reminder of how Rahe can sometimes be an ineffective in game coach. Rahe is 1-2 at getting it done on our home floor come the conference touney, that's 33% of the time, for those who like numbers. We could also end up a 16 seed, but we will not be playing another 16. It's also not a guarantee that we will be a 16 seed like you say.
 
Oh the possibilities...it's what adds to the suspense. 'Weberski' makes some valid points & it would be a dinger OUCH! to have to play in the Tues "First Four' in Dayton, then travel to get the honor of playing a #1 on Thurs/Fri :yikes: Let's all hope that it's at least a #16 seed in the Second Round placement. And wishfully better!
 
I think Weberski is right that we won't have an opening round game based on a few things. Recent history suggests that most opening round teams come from the East and Midwest. BYU and Boise have played opening round games as 12/13 seeds. But all of 16 seeded opening round teams have come from the East and Central time zones. The opening round 16 seed average about 14 losses. A team with 10 losses hasn't played in a play in game since Alabama State got there with 9. The Big Sky conference has never played in an opening round game.

2013
Liberty 15-20
UNC AT&T 19-16
James Madison 20-14
LIU Brooklyn 20-13

2012
Mississippi Valley St 21-12
Western Kentucky 15-18
Lamar 23-11
Vermont 23-11

2011
Alabama State 17-17
UT San Antonio 19-13
Ark Little Rock 19-16
UNC Asheville 19-13
2010
Ark Pine Bluff 17-15
Winthrop 19-13
2009
Alabama State 22-9
Morehead St 19-15
2008
Coppin st 16-20
Mt St Marys 18-14
 
If Weber wins at least one of the two road games AND wins the tourney
then they will NOT be a play in game. They will, however, not be anything
higher than a 16 seed unless a lot of upsets happen. Somehow, lets hope
we do not play MT in the tourney, period. I assume that the BSC still has
the NIT arrangement whereby the conference champion (us) gets a bid if
we do not win the tourney?
 
I think Saturday's loss pretty much assured that Weber gets no better than a 16 (unless there are several upsets in several one bid league tournaments). Our RPI stinks and RPI is huge for seeding. Only question for me now is whether we stay out of the play-in game.

Of course this is all assuming we win the conference tournament, which isn't a given at all. We all know our recent history and we aren't playing good right now.
 
IN Monday ESPN Bracketology, Lunardi has Weber as a 16 seed playing Arizona in San Diego first round on Thursday.

Of course, all subject to changes.....

Cats need to win out and avoid the play-in game, have as fresh a legs as possible and go do their best.
 
WSUfan said:
I know everyone is still getting over that disgusting loss to NAU from Saturday night.. Joe's new bracket has WSU playing as a 16 seed vs. 1 seed Arizona in San Diego... What do you guys make of this matchup? UVU is still in th play in game, while BYU has dropped to a 12* seed.

This is old news heyoh... We already dissected this topic earlier in the day.....
 
There has already been three conference tournament upsets... Mercer over FGCU. Eastern Kentucky over Belmont... Belmont was projected as a 14 seed. FGCU was projected as a play-in game.....
 
WSUfan said:
There has already been three conference tournament upsets... Mercer over FGCU. Eastern Kentucky over Belmont... Belmont was projected as a 14 seed. FGCU was projected as a play-in game.....
Mercer winning wasn't really an upset and they have a much better RPI than Weber (FGC losing to Mercer actually hurts us). E Kentucky win was an upset but they still have a much higher RPI than us. So neither of these really help us much. Green Bay losing may help us if Wright St can win that tournament, but if Milwaukee wins it they have a better RPI.
 
Vermont has lost in the American East as well and the Championship game comes down to Stony Brook (171 RPI) vs Albany (214 RPI). Vermont was predicted to be a 14 seed before they lost.
 
In the SOCON we also have Western Carolina RPI 199 vs Wofford RPI 164 playing in championship game, as well as
 

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