Maine @ Weber St

[sapokama]

Good to know about your QBs. I wouldn't call a road win over a bad W Kentucky team from a weak FBS conference a huge win. A good win, yes. And I said it was a good win in another post. FBS C Mich was probably the worst team in the nation at that level. And Maine was their only win. I didn't cherry pick anything, only stated the simple facts about both team's schedules and scoring results. Looked at Home games for Weber and Away games for Maine because obviously the game is a Home game for Weber and an Away game for Maine. These stats say almost exactly what the pros have the game at, Weber about a touchdown favorite. You could also look at who played and didn't play in Weber's games. I don't have the time or desire to look that closely at all the games. But for you, Weber's FCS only opponent's overall combined record is 57-67 (.460) and Maine's is 53-58 (.477). So maybe SOS is a push.

Just got to say, whenever an FCS team beats an FBS team, its a huge win. It only happens about 7 to 10 times a year and Weber hasn't done it since, what, the 90's? Saying that UMaine's win over W. Kentucky is only a good win because W. Kentucky is "bad" is a little like saying that Weber's win over USU in BBall last year was only a good win because USU was "bad". For me, the USU win meant a little more than just a good win. Like all other FCS schools, UMaine had to fight the scholarship rules and they spotted W. Kentucky 21 points before dominating the rest of the game.

With that said; however, I do believe that Weber State will be the best football team UMaine has played so far this year. Regardless, UMaine beat some good teams and is completely capable of winning this game. I think one of their best wins is overlooked because the team they beat ended up struggling after the UMaine game. UMaine thrashed U. of New Hampshire in the season opener when UNH was ranked 7th. In the second quarter of that game, UMaine knocked out UNH's starting QB which put UNH's season in a tailspin.

I think a 7+ point victory for either team may be unlikely and I expect the score to be close to the WIU score. My gut (and my heart) says that Weber wins because of home field advantage but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes the other way.

 

[sapokama]

I guess I am going out on a limb based on what I saw with Sacramento State and Cal Poly with Weber State. I don't think Weber is all that physical on the offensive side of the ball and I don't feel that Webers defense is going to have that easy a time with Maine's offense. We have a big offensive line and give Fergie time and he will start to pick apart Webers defense.

A little piece of advice. You got to stop coming and talking like you know Weber State Football because it is clear that you don't.

Weber put 8 players on the All-Big Sky first team on defense alone. They didn't get there because of their finesse play.

Seriously, you've got to stop making Mainers look bad, man.

 

[Mainebrother]

Your right no need to have the game on the Weber State Blog...let them play the game on the field and let the best team win...

 

[shelMr]

I guess I am going out on a limb based on what I saw with Sacramento State and Cal Poly with Weber State. I don't think Weber is all that physical on the offensive side of the ball and I don't feel that Webers defense is going to have that easy a time with Maine's offense. We have a big offensive line and give Fergie time and he will start to pick apart Webers defense.

A little piece of advice. You got to stop coming and talking like you know Weber State Football because it is clear that you don't.

Weber put 8 players on the All-Big Sky first team on defense alone. They didn't get there because of their finesse play.

Seriously, you've got to stop making Mainers look bad, man.

:notworthy:

 

[Mainebrother]

Funny you seem to be from Utah from what I can see...I don't comment on people from Utah...let them play the game and we shall see who is on top at the end...

 

[SWeberCat02]

https://wgme.com/sports/content/maine-heading-to-utah

:rofl: Webber State. Nice old logo too.

 

[WILDCAT]

https://wgme.com/sports/content/maine-heading-to-utah

:rofl: Webber State. Nice old logo too.

Ugh thats another one of my pet peeves, Webber State? Really?......sigh. hno:

 

[SWWeatherCat]

https://wgme.com/sports/content/maine-heading-to-utah

:rofl: Webber State. Nice old logo too.

Unfortunately, I'm sure the team knows more about WEEber State than another East Coast media group. Maybe not, but I'd bet the underdog team knows how to pronounce the name of the school they're playing in the quarterfinals.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Good to know about your QBs. I wouldn't call a road win over a bad W Kentucky team from a weak FBS conference a huge win. A good win, yes. And I said it was a good win in another post. FBS C Mich was probably the worst team in the nation at that level. And Maine was their only win. I didn't cherry pick anything, only stated the simple facts about both team's schedules and scoring results. Looked at Home games for Weber and Away games for Maine because obviously the game is a Home game for Weber and an Away game for Maine. These stats say almost exactly what the pros have the game at, Weber about a touchdown favorite. You could also look at who played and didn't play in Weber's games. I don't have the time or desire to look that closely at all the games. But for you, Weber's FCS only opponent's overall combined record is 57-67 (.460) and Maine's is 53-58 (.477). So maybe SOS is a push.

Just got to say, whenever an FCS team beats an FBS team, its a huge win. It only happens about 7 to 10 times a year and Weber hasn't done it since, what, the 90's? Saying that UMaine's win over W. Kentucky is only a good win because W. Kentucky is "bad" is a little like saying that Weber's win over USU in BBall last year was only a good win because USU was "bad". For me, the USU win meant a little more than just a good win. Like all other FCS schools, UMaine had to fight the scholarship rules and they spotted W. Kentucky 21 points before dominating the rest of the game.
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I think "good win" fits based on the facts, maybe "very good win" since there is a level of difference but I don't see it as a "huge win" either. Most of those 7-10 times a year will be by very good FCS teams-- which Maine certainly is-- against so-so or bad FBS team. Division 1, whether it be FCS or FBS, schools from both have talented athletes and assemble talented teams. This seems like a case where the scale was tilted FCS. How would you compare Maine's win at WK vs Weber's (shoulda won) at Cal last season? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd say last year's Cal was much a more talented team than this year's WK but Cal ended up only so-so at 5-7. So, had Weber hung on to win would that have been considered a huge win at the end of the season, a good win, or maybe a very good win since it was a P5 school?

I don't see a correlation to Weber beating USU whatsoever. That was a good or very good win too but certainly not a huge win, and USU was bad. They're on a pretty even D1 playing field and Weber should regularly have a chance to beat USU, and do.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Your right no need to have the game on the Weber State Blog...let them play the game on the field and let the best team win...

They will play the game on the field, Friday, at 6 PM MST, and the better team that night will win. It's nice to talk to other team's fans and learn more about their team and compare but not so much to have them come to your team forum and keep talking how the game's already basically decided. The previous posts are correct, you really know little about the BSC, Weber State, or the physicality of our defense. I also very much question your statement that Weber has never seen OLine size like Maine. In fact, SEMO's OLine seems like it stacks up pretty evenly. If memory serves, Utah and MSU have pretty healthy OLines too. Weber's defense won't flinch at Maine's size or team in general. Maine may win and if they do they're the better team, but it looks to be a pretty good battle and I love Weber's chances in physical, grind-it-out games.

 

[WILDCAT]

Anybody who says Weber plays a "finesse" (to do (something) in a subtle and delicate manner) style of defense clearly knows nothing about Weber State. The Big Sky isn't usually known for it's defenses, it's mostly known for it's high flying offenses. Weber is the complete opposite of the Big Sky model. Weber is more like a Missouri Valley team in their style of play. And after 2 and a half years it shows that it in fact works. In fact other teams in our conference (Montana State and Eastern Washington) are starting to model their programs after us. Focusing more on defense and running the football.

I'm excited for this matchup, I literally created a post on this fan board about how cool it would be to play more East Coast teams more often while watching Maine play Rhode Island on tv.

Here's the link to it
https://bigskyfans.com/wildcats/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5041&p=47742&hilit=maine#p47742

This is why I love the playoffs, we get a chance to play a team that we never have before. This time it is Maine. And I'm stoked for this one.

 

[WSUWildcat]

Anybody who says Weber plays a "finesse" (to do (something) in a subtle and delicate manner) style of defense clearly knows nothing about Weber State. The Big Sky isn't usually known for it's defenses, it's mostly known for it's high flying offenses. Weber is the complete opposite of the Big Sky model. Weber is more like a Missouri Valley team in their style of play. And after 2 and a half years it shows that it in fact works. In fact other teams in our conference (Montana State and Eastern Washington) are starting to model their programs after us. Focusing more on defense and running the football.

I'm excited for this matchup, I literally created a post on this fan board about how cool it would be to play more East Coast teams more often while watching Maine play Rhode Island on tv.

Here's the link to it
https://bigskyfans.com/wildcats/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5041&p=47742&hilit=maine#p47742

This is why I love the playoffs, we get a chance to play a team that we never have before. This time it is Maine. And I'm stoked for this one.

Pretty sure our "finesse" defense will love to help Maine's fragile QB off the turf a few times this weekend. :rofl:

I understand Chris Ferguson was injured and out for a few games this year when Maine really struggled. It sounds like he is mostly recovered, though I think I read that there were some concerns about protecting him from getting hit and reinjuring his throwing shoulder.

Anyone know if Maine found a suitable backup QB? Any injury reports for Maine? I did see that they had an athlete die over the summer during workouts. Very tragic.

 

[sapokama]

Good to know about your QBs. I wouldn't call a road win over a bad W Kentucky team from a weak FBS conference a huge win. A good win, yes. And I said it was a good win in another post. FBS C Mich was probably the worst team in the nation at that level. And Maine was their only win. I didn't cherry pick anything, only stated the simple facts about both team's schedules and scoring results. Looked at Home games for Weber and Away games for Maine because obviously the game is a Home game for Weber and an Away game for Maine. These stats say almost exactly what the pros have the game at, Weber about a touchdown favorite. You could also look at who played and didn't play in Weber's games. I don't have the time or desire to look that closely at all the games. But for you, Weber's FCS only opponent's overall combined record is 57-67 (.460) and Maine's is 53-58 (.477). So maybe SOS is a push.

Just got to say, whenever an FCS team beats an FBS team, its a huge win. It only happens about 7 to 10 times a year and Weber hasn't done it since, what, the 90's? Saying that UMaine's win over W. Kentucky is only a good win because W. Kentucky is "bad" is a little like saying that Weber's win over USU in BBall last year was only a good win because USU was "bad". For me, the USU win meant a little more than just a good win. Like all other FCS schools, UMaine had to fight the scholarship rules and they spotted W. Kentucky 21 points before dominating the rest of the game.
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I think "good win" fits based on the facts, maybe "very good win" since there is a level of difference but I don't see it as a "huge win" either. Most of those 7-10 times a year will be by very good FCS teams-- which Maine certainly is-- against so-so or bad FBS team. Division 1, whether it be FCS or FBS, schools from both have talented athletes and assemble talented teams. This seems like a case where the scale was tilted FCS. How would you compare Maine's win at WK vs Weber's (shoulda won) at Cal last season? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd say last year's Cal was much a more talented team than this year's WK but Cal ended up only so-so at 5-7. So, had Weber hung on to win would that have been considered a huge win at the end of the season, a good win, or maybe a very good win since it was a P5 school?

I don't see a correlation to Weber beating USU whatsoever. That was a good or very good win too but certainly not a huge win, and USU was bad. They're on a pretty even D1 playing field and Weber should regularly have a chance to beat USU, and do.

You may be right to call it a very good win and not a huge win. In the end, it's all semantics.

I agree on the USU statement. I didn't love the analogy either. I wanted to use the win over BYU instead, but the jury is still out on whether they will be a decent team or not.

Regarding Cal, I certainly would have thought that of that as a better win than W. Kentucky, but a lot of that would have been based on my own biases with name recognition. Cal should have more talent than W. Kentucky, but Cal was a bad team in a bad conference last year. The PAC 12 was certainly a power conference in name only. Regardless, it would have been an FBS win for Weber and a huge win in my book... just like a win against Colorado State would have been had the snap had not been fumbled at the end of the game. Just my opinion, but again it's all semantics.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Intangibles, if it is a close one?

I assume Thursday is the travel day for Maine? Have heard it could be a long, difficult trip or long, fairly direct trip. Either way, long travel, 2 hour time difference, and 1 less day to prepare (physically).
Advantage: Weber.

Both teams have equal opportunity to prepare for the cold as Weber State's looking at mid 30°s for highs and mid 20°s for lows; and Maine with similar or slightly warmer highs and a little colder lows. Right now game forecast is clear and 30° game start and 28° game end. It "warmed" my heart to see Hill with his guys shirtless in the cold at one point before the SEMO game.
Advantage: Neither, unless better the cold you know is an advantage.

Not sure how much of the 4,649' elevation difference Maine can prepare for but I'm not convinced it will be that much of a factor either.
Advantage: Weber, but to what degree?

I'm betting attendance will poor with it being a Friday, and a night game in December, as well as nationally televised. I'm guessing 4K but even that would embarrass on TV. Still, whatever students show up will have the ear of the Maine sideline-- oh, and the Weber State Cheerleaders too! Apparently, if you ask SEMO, the cheerleaders can really get under the skin and provoke fights with 300LB football players :lol:
Advantage: Weber, but only slightly.

Win or loose, Maine Nation should enjoy the Winter scenery in Ogden, Utah.
- Mount Ogden to the East: http://wxvue.com/Temp/WSU/MO2East.jpg
- Ben Lomond to the North: http://wxvue.com/Temp/WSU/BL2North.jpg
- With little ol' Lewis Peak in between: http://wxvue.com/Temp/WSU/BL2MO.jpg
Enjoy!

 

[Mrizreal221]

Honestly W Kentucky would have been like playing San Jose state or Nevada.... but I’m not going to rely on defense or offense I am going to put this on coach hill. He has done everything there is to do to compete at the next level. It’s him they need to worry about. Last year we had or own fans saying it was over. I said to myself that coach hill is a good coach hill is a good coach nothing will change off the loss of talent... he has proven himself.... yes there hiccups in the beginning of the season and throughout. Yet he has overcome. Weber going to the national championship

 

[Mainebrother]

"There is a bear in the Stadium. For some people, the bear is easy to see. Others don't see it at all. Some people say the bear is tame. Others say it's vicious and dangerous. Since no one can really be sure who's right, isn't it smart to not mess with the bear in the first place and just rollover and give up rather than get smacked and hurt badly? If there is a bear do you really think a Weber Wildcat can tame a bear without getting seriously hurt?"

https://tenor.com/view/bearvsman-bear-kung-fy-gif-5430193

 

[WSUWildcat]

"There is a bear in the Stadium. For some people, the bear is easy to see. Others don't see it at all. Some people say the bear is tame. Others say it's vicious and dangerous. Since no one can really be sure who's right, isn't it smart to not mess with the bear in the first place and just rollover and give up rather than get smacked and hurt badly? If there is a bear do you really think a Weber Wildcat can tame a bear without getting seriously hurt?"

Friday can't come soon enough. ;-)

 

[Mainebrother]

This Native Mainiac and Blackbear fan is ready for it as well. Lets leave it on the field...

 

[Len east coast Bias]

https://wgme.com/sports/content/maine-heading-to-utah

:rofl: Webber State. Nice old logo too.

better?
https://wgme.com/sports/content/black-bears-prepare-for-playoff-matchup

 

[WILDCAT]

https://wgme.com/sports/content/maine-heading-to-utah

:rofl: Webber State. Nice old logo too.

better?
https://wgme.com/sports/content/black-bears-prepare-for-playoff-matchup

Sure, except for the fact that we haven't been Weber State College since 1990 hno: :wall: :facepalm: