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Beardown said:
McCandyman said:
I can't believe that some of you are already giving up on Collins, and listing current D3 coaches as possible replacements. That shows how little you understand D1 college football. I'm surprised that you didn't list a high school coach or two. To fully understand the current situation at UNC, lets look at a FEW of the facts:

This years incoming Freshman class represents the FIRST year that the Bears have had all 63 full scholarships awarded to players. (63 is the NCAA limit for FCS schools) Granted that money can be divided over a maximum of 85 players, but my point is that the money available for scholarships has been behind the D1 curve since UNC moved up from D2. Other schools in the Big Sky have been at the full scholarship level for some time now, and that allows them to recruit more players. More players means more depth and more competition at each position. That translates to better players taking the field. I'm from Kansas and here our high school football programs are grouped by class, 1A - 6A. The 5A and 6A schools are almost always going to beat the 4A and smaller schools. Why? Because they have more depth. Also the bigger high schools have more coaches. Without an adequately sized coaching staff, UNC has had trouble and will continue to struggle against other Big Sky schools. Collins got to add two new position coaches this season. Before that, the offensive line coach and the defensive line coach each had other coaching responsibilities as well. Think about that. The offensive success of ANY team starts with the success of the offensive line. Until now, UNC didn't even have a full time OL coach. From what I can see, the OL is certainly playing better this year. This is major step in the right direction. More scholarships and more coaches are obvious going to help UNC compete in the Big Sky. But this improvement is not going to happen overnight. A coach has be able to recruit his own players, and develop relationships with them from the time they are in high school. Collins and his staff have not had that opportunity yet. I think that Collins deserves the change to prove himself. He stepped into a mess when he came to UNC, and that mess can't be swept away in two seasons. I think that you need to look for signs of improvement to judge his success so far. Granted improvement on the field is going to come later than sooner. Be patience. Be supportive. Show some class. One man (coach) can not fix UNC football overnight. Look at Charlie Weiss at the University of Kansas. He has two Super Bowl rings, ex-NFL coordinators on his coaching staff, and the full financial backing of the university, but he still probably won't win a game in the Big 12 this season. Do you think that he is a bad coach. Of course not. He stepped into a mess at KU, just like Collins did at UNC. Give the man a chance to make an impact on the program. It may take awhile, but UNC is moving in the right direction.

UNC has been at 63 scholarships for several years now, I believe. The adding of the coaches is brand new though. We finally have enough $$$ to hire more coaches. We are at the max number of coaches FCS allows.

I was told by a coach at UNC that this is first year that they have had the money available to fill all 63 scholarships. This is not uncommon for D2 schools that make the jump to D1, and is more common in some of the smaller leagues. However, it has been a definate disadvantage for UNC since they moved up to D1 and are competing in the Big Sky.
 
mountainbear said:
There was an interesting letter to the editor in the TRIBUNE yesterday.
Just because someone put it in writing doesn't make it true, but it sounds like there are issues. I am curious about what had been going on off the field, and wonder if it had affected
Unc on the field.

Anyone able to copy and paste this letter to the Board? I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet.....
 
bearcrawls said:
Anyone able to copy and paste this letter to the Board? I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet.....

Middle of the page: http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/opinion/2645000-113/collins-players-unc-coach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Bear Fiend said:
bearcrawls said:
Anyone able to copy and paste this letter to the Board? I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet.....

Middle of the page: http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/opinion/2645000-113/collins-players-unc-coach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bear Friend - What's your take on this whole situation? You seem to have an inside track on what's going on.
 
Bear Fiend said:
bearcrawls said:
Anyone able to copy and paste this letter to the Board? I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet.....

Middle of the page: http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/opinion/2645000-113/collins-players-unc-coach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now that is a heck of a way to call out the coach.
 
Any comments?
It seems that a team that is good and winning games can more effectively spin player misconduct.
I'm not sure that you can be a loosing program with behavioral issues and survive.
Integrity does go a long way.
 
mountainbear said:
Any comments?
It seems that a team that is good and winning games can more effectively spin player misconduct.
I'm not sure that you can be a loosing program with behavioral issues and survive.
Integrity does go a long way.

Good point. Kind of a chicken or the egg thing. If they could win a few games it would change the mood around the entire program. Can't we all just get along? :?
 
Truth in the letter? Little to none. And slanderous on top of that.

The fact check will air during SportsDay today and be available for download later.
 
Listened to Troy's response on his radio show. The podcast is up. Troy brings up a lot of good points. Mainly that this guy AND the Tribune (for printing this letter) should be ashamed of themselves. I encourage everyone to listen.
 
Beardown said:
Listened to Troy's response on his radio show. The podcast is up. Troy brings up a lot of good points. Mainly that this guy AND the Tribune (for printing this letter) should be ashamed of themselves. I encourage everyone to listen.

Troy is just a mouthpiece for UNC! Just kidding. I listened as well and it really was a well thought out and measured response. The Trib should be ashamed that they printed that piece of crap.
 
So you have to subscribe to read that letter on the tribune's site which I won't do so anyone care to summarize or repost it here?

Regarding the scholarships I had a funny feeling we weren't fully funding although 2 or 3 years ago we were lead to believe we were it's always been a dark little secret that nobody will ever make a definitive statement on. :ugeek:
 
I don't want to repost it because it's tripe but if you listen to the today's sportsday on KFKA Troy walks through it line by line.

I wonder if something like this can bring the team together. Rally around their defensive star and coach.

Here is the kfka link: http://www.1310kfka.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=8&Itemid=58" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
I've been giving this whole topic a lot of thought.
the one question is........where do we go from here?????
from what I have learned, I definitely have a strong perspective; however, the whole baby and bath water issue comes to mind.
Any comments / concerns / a new thread????/
 
mountainbear said:
I've been giving this whole topic a lot of thought.
the one question is........where do we go from here?????
from what I have learned, I definitely have a strong perspective; however, the whole baby and bath water issue comes to mind.
Any comments / concerns / a new thread????/

Where do we go from here? Show up to the games, give money to the B and Gold Club and the QB Club. That will enable us to get better assistant coaches, upgrade facilities and that will help us get better players.
 
Based on the post game interview our HC gave, it appears as if he feels doing the same thing and keeping with the same plan WILL bring DIFFERENT results :ohno: ...no accountability and too much pride/ego equals no strategy to make a change equals it's just a matter of time before this thread is revived..
 
PlayerParent said:
Based on the post game interview our HC gave, it appears as if he feels doing the same thing and keeping with the same plan WILL bring DIFFERENT results :ohno: ...no accountability and too much pride/ego equals no strategy to make a change equals it's just a matter of time before this thread is revived..

Yea, I'm afraid that this threads fuse has been lit !! Although I like Collins, I think he is in over his head ! :doh:
 

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