It's going to be hard core, but at least its not two in a row and NOT the first games of the season. So they warm up with a DII, then go to Vatech and steal a win (you gotta believe, baby). Start conference play beat Montana at home, build some steam and end the season at Texas Tech and steal one there (still believing). There you have it, an 11-0 season! And (why not) end up in the FBS top 50 poll. The glass is always half full! But first...Cal Poly on Saturday.
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Next seasons OOC - Texas Tech & Boston College
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Where'sWaldo?
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You all have not even considered whether Mac wants to play these games and who he doesn't want to play.
Also, the issue with next year's schedule is that the previous AD did not have any games lined up for 2010 (but does have 2011 ready). As you can imagine, there aren't many FCS schools that don't have their FBS game scheduled already. So, you have to take what you can get. The first option was Texas Tech. They won't guarantee enough to meet the budget number, so you have to go find a second game.
Give the new AD time and recognize the situation he was put in before you condemn him.
Also, the issue with next year's schedule is that the previous AD did not have any games lined up for 2010 (but does have 2011 ready). As you can imagine, there aren't many FCS schools that don't have their FBS game scheduled already. So, you have to take what you can get. The first option was Texas Tech. They won't guarantee enough to meet the budget number, so you have to go find a second game.
Give the new AD time and recognize the situation he was put in before you condemn him.
native
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Where'sWaldo? said:
Look, brotha, I accept the excuses for the past, but what is the plan for the future? It is still a fair question, even if the AD was born yesterday. As a loyal booster and fan I am spring loaded to be supportive, but do not feed me a line of BS excuses without a vision and a plan. With authority comes responsibility. The AD accepted the position so he can &*&^%$ accept the heat. If you put me in the AD position tomorrow, I could come up with a danged plan and communicate the plan. What is it????
Where'sWaldo?
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Ask Jerry Bovee when you see him. I bet he'd be happy to answer.
DAMN!! Don't play a damn D2, they don't count towards the 7 required wins to get into the playoffs.whereamI said:
So IF you lose to Texas Tech and the other D1 team and then play a game that doesn't count for the playoffs well then unless you run the table in Conference you are probably SCREWED as far as getting into the playoffs. :evil:
SWeberCat02
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One thing to remember is that the playoffs expand to 20 teams next year (10 autos and 10 at-large). This should make making the playoffs a little easier. And I emphasize "a little". But I agree, unless Weber gains the Sky's auto bid, their chances of receiving a playoff bid next year are REALLY hurt by the schedule.ajwildcat said:
talhadfoursteals
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SWeberCat02 said:
Even though its a really horrible idea, thanks for the info whereami.
talhadfoursteals
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Weber is shooting for a BCS game next year!!
weberwildcat
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2010:
8 conf games
2 fbs - texas tech, asu or va tech
1 DII team
even as a believer and i am and we could have easily won both FBS games this season, but being realistic you have to assume we will lose both FBS games as only what 2-5 FCS beat FBS each year? out of 100+ games.
so....
1-2 in OOC would mean we would have 0 DI wins.
in conf we would have to go 7-1 to have an overall DI record of 7-3.
So we basically have to be conf champs or co-champs. At least this year we have OOC DI Cal Poly which may save us to get in. We won't have that next year. It will be a DII which wont count.
I will be a believer we can go 8-0 in conf next year but it just sucks knowing if we don't go 7-1 we can't get in.
8 conf games
2 fbs - texas tech, asu or va tech
1 DII team
even as a believer and i am and we could have easily won both FBS games this season, but being realistic you have to assume we will lose both FBS games as only what 2-5 FCS beat FBS each year? out of 100+ games.
so....
1-2 in OOC would mean we would have 0 DI wins.
in conf we would have to go 7-1 to have an overall DI record of 7-3.
So we basically have to be conf champs or co-champs. At least this year we have OOC DI Cal Poly which may save us to get in. We won't have that next year. It will be a DII which wont count.
I will be a believer we can go 8-0 in conf next year but it just sucks knowing if we don't go 7-1 we can't get in.
weberwildcat
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Reason for the DII game at home in 2010:
what FCS team can we get to come to Ogden? UC-Davis, San Diego, one of the 4 Dakotas? Those are the only remotely close teams I can think of.
If not one of them and we can't afford to bring in a team from faraway then we have to bring in a non DI team. There is no question about it.
SUU you say? We can't get them back to Ogden until we go to Cedar. It's our turn and also our fault that we aren't playing anymore.
And we can't even go to SUU until we stop playing 2 FBS teams per year.
We cant go to SUU the same yr as playing 2 FBS because FBS are always on the road. You can't go to SUU the same year, that would leave you with 4 home games. WSU will always have at least 5 home games. We really should have 6 each year. But 4, no way.
So with that reasoning and WSU guaranteeing 5 home games how can we play any road FCS games? That s well will lesson our chances of playing OOC FCS games.
what FCS team can we get to come to Ogden? UC-Davis, San Diego, one of the 4 Dakotas? Those are the only remotely close teams I can think of.
If not one of them and we can't afford to bring in a team from faraway then we have to bring in a non DI team. There is no question about it.
SUU you say? We can't get them back to Ogden until we go to Cedar. It's our turn and also our fault that we aren't playing anymore.
And we can't even go to SUU until we stop playing 2 FBS teams per year.
We cant go to SUU the same yr as playing 2 FBS because FBS are always on the road. You can't go to SUU the same year, that would leave you with 4 home games. WSU will always have at least 5 home games. We really should have 6 each year. But 4, no way.
So with that reasoning and WSU guaranteeing 5 home games how can we play any road FCS games? That s well will lesson our chances of playing OOC FCS games.
I know I've taken some shots at Bovee for the scheduling woes, but where'swaldo is right. Bovee was put in a really rough spot. He was stuck in a department full of idiots, and told to make gold out of straw. Nothing was ready for next year when he took over. Usually, a team knows their football schedule two or even three years in advance, but Weber had nothing for next fall. I'm kinda impressed we got something. And I'm with whereami, granted my faith isn't as strong as his, but who knows, miracles can happen and Weber could end up winning.
With Cam being a senior next year, not a lot of schools wanted to play Weber, yes everyone was lining up to play us in 2011 (HOKE will be almost as good as Cam, so USU and WYO still better watch out), because he is gone. I heard Graybeal complaining about it last spring at a luncheon. YES, I was eavesdropping. I just worry about our team; Injuries, moral, and confidence. However, Cal Poly had two FBS games last year, winning one and barely losing to Wisconsin at the end of the season. Granted, their first was against SDSU, but they made the most out of a bad situation. We should support the team and the program, and have faith in their abilities. My mantra is, "Who Knows Weber might just win."
Two other points. First, I wouldn't doubt it if Mac is supporting these games. He's tough and he expects his team to be tough. I'm sure he welcomes these type of contests to see where his team is and what they need to improve on. Also, Weber better be getting a shiz load of cash for these games. By the by, which players are considering transfering because of a schedule?
With Cam being a senior next year, not a lot of schools wanted to play Weber, yes everyone was lining up to play us in 2011 (HOKE will be almost as good as Cam, so USU and WYO still better watch out), because he is gone. I heard Graybeal complaining about it last spring at a luncheon. YES, I was eavesdropping. I just worry about our team; Injuries, moral, and confidence. However, Cal Poly had two FBS games last year, winning one and barely losing to Wisconsin at the end of the season. Granted, their first was against SDSU, but they made the most out of a bad situation. We should support the team and the program, and have faith in their abilities. My mantra is, "Who Knows Weber might just win."
Two other points. First, I wouldn't doubt it if Mac is supporting these games. He's tough and he expects his team to be tough. I'm sure he welcomes these type of contests to see where his team is and what they need to improve on. Also, Weber better be getting a shiz load of cash for these games. By the by, which players are considering transfering because of a schedule?
weberwildcat
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Regarding playoff expansion I was under the impression the 4 new spots were for current FCS conferences that don't already have auto-bids. I don't think this will free up more at-large bids.
There are a bunch of conferences that dont have an autobid.
There are a bunch of conferences that dont have an autobid.
I'm all for a OOC FCS home game next year, but I don't think its possible, unless Weber dishes out some serious cash. Most FCS schedules are already done, which really sucks, I'm sure that Weber could find someone, but they better be willing to pay them. Personally, I think it might be a good investment. Going to the playoffs frequently builds fan support. Which increases tkts and concession sells, and creates boosters, supports, and sponsors. More businesses want to hook onto a winning program that shows its success on its level...FCS success = Conference Crowns and PLAYOFF Apperances and wins.
Next years tentative Conference schedule (from what I've seen and heard):
UM Oct 30
Next years tentative Conference schedule (from what I've seen and heard):
UM Oct 30
weberwildcat
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talhadfoursteals said:
