Roos Field Renovation

[scottywashere11]

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EWU needs to create a designated fund specifically for stadium renovations. People can continue to say "$$$$$" or "open your wallet" but until they make a designated fund, you are asking people to donate money to a general fund where every dollar donated will be chopped into separate pots of money. Even donating to the football ONLY fund, the majority of your donation is still not going to the facilities. People do not want to donate to one of those two funds if their priority is facilities upgrades. It's their money, and you can tell them how necessary equipment and scholarships are, but at the end of the day, if they are only interested in giving to a stadium renovation then we are missing out on potential donors.

 

[EdubU10]

$$$$$$$$

EWU needs to create a designated fund specifically for stadium renovations. People can continue to say "$$$$$" or "open your wallet" but until they make a designated fund, you are asking people to donate money to a general fund where every dollar donated will be chopped into separate pots of money. Even donating to the football ONLY fund, the majority of your donation is still not going to the facilities. People do not want to donate to one of those two funds if their priority is facilities upgrades. It's their money, and you can tell them how necessary equipment and scholarships are, but at the end of the day, if they are only interested in giving to a stadium renovation then we are missing out on potential donors.

I know I would definitely throw in an additional donation to a stadium fund on top of what I give to the EAF. Like everyone on this board, I just want to see a realistic plan/design and a realistic way of making it happen.
I'm a cynical person so my mind is already made up that this consultant we hired and are paying $124,000 isn't going to provide anything of use. To me, it's a waste of money that could of been utilized better. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

$$$$$$$$

EWU needs to create a designated fund specifically for stadium renovations. People can continue to say "$$$$$" or "open your wallet" but until they make a designated fund, you are asking people to donate money to a general fund where every dollar donated will be chopped into separate pots of money. Even donating to the football ONLY fund, the majority of your donation is still not going to the facilities. People do not want to donate to one of those two funds if their priority is facilities upgrades. It's their money, and you can tell them how necessary equipment and scholarships are, but at the end of the day, if they are only interested in giving to a stadium renovation then we are missing out on potential donors.

Let’s be honest. The people who care MOST about the Roos Field Stadium Expansion are right here in this thread. How about *WE* set up a KickStarter or GoFundMe account with a *trusted individual* here or at the university. We can make pledges and donations. We can have Jim at SR.com help get the word out to other EWU Alum & EWU fans willing to donate.

This COULD be strictly for an Eastside expansion or whatever WE agree on. How much could this thing cost? $500k? Maybe less? Let’s transform this passion into $$$$. If $$$$ is REALLY THE PROBLEM, then this could be an easy fix.

 

[Hambone]

$$$$$$$$

EWU needs to create a designated fund specifically for stadium renovations. People can continue to say "$$$$$" or "open your wallet" but until they make a designated fund, you are asking people to donate money to a general fund where every dollar donated will be chopped into separate pots of money. Even donating to the football ONLY fund, the majority of your donation is still not going to the facilities. People do not want to donate to one of those two funds if their priority is facilities upgrades. It's their money, and you can tell them how necessary equipment and scholarships are, but at the end of the day, if they are only interested in giving to a stadium renovation then we are missing out on potential donors.

Let’s be honest. The people who care MOST about the Roos Field Stadium Expansion are right here in this thread. How about *WE* set up a KickStarter or GoFundMe account with a *trusted individual* here or at the university. We can make pledges and donations. We can have Jim at SR.com help get the word out to other EWU Alum & EWU fans willing to donate.

This COULD be strictly for an Eastside expansion or whatever WE agree on. How much could this thing cost? $500k? Maybe less? Let’s transform this passion into $$$$. If $$$$ is REALLY THE PROBLEM, then this could be an easy fix.

Good idea.

 

[clawman1]

I like the Fargo model. The city built the Fargodome and rents it to the University for football games. The city also creates enough revenue from concerts, tractor pulls, motocross, etc. to satisfy the bonds. The other benefit to the city is the economic boom and increased tax base brought on by private development in the area which was corn fields before
Reality is the University is not going to get anything done... IMO

 

[FormerEag]

Interesting article in the Easterner: https://easterneronline.com/40991/news/fraternity-alums-raise-250000-for-the-ewu-library/

A fraternity raised $250,000 for the library in just four years. I know that's not nearly enough for a full GWP-type remodel, but it ain't nothing. I imagine that we could improve the eastside for something in that range.

The dollars are out there. We just need to ask for them.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Interesting article in the Easterner: https://easterneronline.com/40991/news/fraternity-alums-raise-250000-for-the-ewu-library/

A fraternity raised $250,000 for the library in just four years. I know that's not nearly enough for a full GWP-type remodel, but it ain't nothing. I imagine that we could improve the eastside for something in that range.

The dollars are out there. We just need to ask for them.

The problem I have is whatever I give NEEDS to be earmarked specifically for stadium expansion. While the EAF is noble, I don't like money going to a general fund that may get used in a way that isn't beneficial.

On that topic, why does it seems like Eastern always has representatives of NCAA councils? If the NCAA is paying for this kind of thing, then great. If our athletic dept is putting money into this, then it seems like an extravagance we can't afford. Charity begins at home. Every available dollar should go straight into the sports programs or athletic facilities.

 

[scottywashere11]

Interesting article in the Easterner: https://easterneronline.com/40991/news/fraternity-alums-raise-250000-for-the-ewu-library/

A fraternity raised $250,000 for the library in just four years. I know that's not nearly enough for a full GWP-type remodel, but it ain't nothing. I imagine that we could improve the eastside for something in that range.

The dollars are out there. We just need to ask for them.

The problem I have is whatever I give NEEDS to be earmarked specifically for stadium expansion. While the EAF is noble, I don't like money going to a general fund that may get used in a way that isn't beneficial.

On that topic, why does it seems like Eastern always has representatives of NCAA councils? If the NCAA is paying for this kind of thing, then great. If our athletic dept is putting money into this, then it seems like an extravagance we can't afford. Charity begins at home. Every available dollar should go straight into the sports programs or athletic facilities.

Well, if I were Chaves and the current administration ignorantly/blindly saw the monetary price of him being on the NCAA councils as the norm and status quo because that's how it's always been, I would do what I could to maintain that as the norm. That way, I could keep using it to promote myself and prop up my resume in case WSU, OSU, or some other big school have a sudden AD opening like this last weekend at WSU. The current administration seems to be completely hands off from our athletic department. If Chaves can't use facility upgrades to improve his resume and show his ability to improve an organization like many ADs do, then why not go the other route and participate in high tier, expensive NCAA councils? I pull this card all of the time at work when conferences or trainings come up. My hand goes up because I can use the training to prop myself up at the expense of my agency. It's not like the administration is going to know what the hell the NCAA Division 1 Football Championship Series Selection Committee even is or costs. They leave that to the man in charge of athletics.

Of course, like Dopa said, this doesn't matter if the NCAA pays the expenses.

 

[clawman1]

Interesting article in the Easterner: https://easterneronline.com/40991/news/fraternity-alums-raise-250000-for-the-ewu-library/

A fraternity raised $250,000 for the library in just four years. I know that's not nearly enough for a full GWP-type remodel, but it ain't nothing. I imagine that we could improve the eastside for something in that range.

The dollars are out there. We just need to ask for them.

The problem I have is whatever I give NEEDS to be earmarked specifically for stadium expansion. While the EAF is noble, I don't like money going to a general fund that may get used in a way that isn't beneficial.

On that topic, why does it seems like Eastern always has representatives of NCAA councils? If the NCAA is paying for this kind of thing, then great. If our athletic dept is putting money into this, then it seems like an extravagance we can't afford. Charity begins at home. Every available dollar should go straight into the sports programs or athletic facilities.

Well, if I were Chaves and the current administration ignorantly/blindly saw the monetary price of him being on the NCAA councils as the norm and status quo because that's how it's always been, I would do what I could to maintain that as the norm. That way, I could keep using it to promote myself and prop up my resume in case WSU, OSU, or some other big school have a sudden AD opening like this last weekend at WSU. The current administration seems to be completely hands off from our athletic department. If Chaves can't use facility upgrades to improve his resume and show his ability to improve an organization like many ADs do, then why not go the other route and participate in high tier, expensive NCAA councils? I pull this card all of the time at work when conferences or trainings come up. My hand goes up because I can use the training to prop myself up at the expense of my agency. It's not like the administration is going to know what the hell the NCAA Division 1 Football Championship Series Selection Committee even is or costs. They leave that to the man in charge of athletics.

Of course, like Dopa said, this doesn't matter if the NCAA pays the expenses.

What's your point?

 

[scottywashere11]

What's your point?

The question was posed, "why does it seems like Eastern always has representatives of NCAA councils". If I were Bill Chaves, I would do what I could to ensure that I personally stayed on NCAA councils for my own sake. Lucky for him, the current administration doesn't seem to be involved in athletics at all and likely wouldn't pay too much attention to the expenses associated with him being on these councils. A slow drip of money associated with a council is less likely to cause attention than the sudden gush of money a facility upgrade would cost. If he can't depend on facility progress, why not do what he can to stay on NCAA councils? EWU is a stepping stone for everyone else in the athletic department, why would he not do what he can to continue to improve his resume? 5, 8, 10 years on an NCAA council looks good when he eventually moves on to the next big school, if that were to ever happen.

 

[clawman1]

What's your point?

The question was posed, "why does it seems like Eastern always has representatives of NCAA councils". If I were Bill Chaves, I would do what I could to ensure that I personally stayed on NCAA councils for my own sake. Lucky for him, the current administration doesn't seem to be involved in athletics at all and likely wouldn't pay too much attention to the expenses associated with him being on these councils. A slow drip of money associated with a council is less likely to cause attention than the sudden gush of money a facility upgrade would cost. If he can't depend on facility progress, why not do what he can to stay on NCAA councils? EWU is a stepping stone for everyone else in the athletic department, why would he not do what he can to continue to improve his resume? 5, 8, 10 years on an NCAA council looks good when he eventually moves on to the next big school, if that were to ever happen.

I'm still not sure what you are accusing Chaves of. If you have an allegation to make, say it.

 

[scottywashere11]

Haha accusation? I am saying the man is using the resources he has to be relavent in the NCAA. There is nothing wrong with that, especially if it is benefitting Eastern... I'm sure that him being on these councils is probably pretty damn hard work. I am simply stating that is my guess as to why EWU has a presence there. Whether or not it is a monetary hindrance is beyond my knowledge, but we do have like one of the lowest athletic budgets in the conference. I think Chaves is a great AD and I'm sure that he is budgeting responsibly. I'm just pointing out one reason why he would be motivated to be on councils and why the administration would be cool with that but not down for a massive undertaking like facility changes.

And again, like I said, it's not even a point to make if the NCAA foots the bill... Which they quite likely do.

 

[scottywashere11]

Re-reading that, it does look like the point of my post was to allege something, which I assure you is not what I intended. I'm always rooting for our AD. My approach when writing it was to point out that we can get these smaller successes, like having an NCAA presence which helps EWU and Bill, in the athletic department if we keep the expenses smaller and continuous because it does not draw the attention of the administration, who seems hands off. I'm sure it adds up, but it's bill's job to budget that and I'm sure he does a great job doing so. My point is far less about Bill and more about what we can and can't get in athletics.

 

[Hambone]

Re-reading that, it does look like the point of my post was to allege something, which I assure you is not what I intended.

I didn't take that away from your post. I think it's good for Eastern, as well as the Big Sky, to have our AD sitting on these various counsels. And if it boots Bill's resume in the process, well, that's all the better.

 

[clawman1]

What will it look like when they take down the east side bleachers??https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/sports/watch-the-georgia-dome-implode/2017/11/20/63f64034-cdf2-11e7-a87b-47f14b73162a_video.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2017/11/20/see-the-dome-blow-up-from-3-different-angles-video.html

 

[air045]

Ok here is a high school Bleachers EWU SHOULD be able to get on the visitor side fairly quickly IF they were truly interested in updating its facilities. The silence is an insult to the fan base and totally a disservice to the university fan base.

 

[EWU98]

Ok here is a high school Bleachers EWU SHOULD be able to get on the visitor side fairly quickly IF they were truly interested in updating its facilities. The silence is an insult to the fan base and totally a disservice to the university fan base.

OMG YES YES YES YES!!!

 

[FormerEag]

Here is one (HS stadium) down the street from my house. I mean, I know it's Texas, but still... Boggles my mind that no incremental improvements have been made to the East stands. Maddening.

 

[BLACKFALKIN1]

Here is one (HS stadium) down the street from my house. I mean, I know it's Texas, but still... Boggles my mind that no incremental improvements have been made to the East stands. Maddening.

Looks like Allen Tx maybe...

 

[air045]

Ok here is a high school Bleachers EWU SHOULD be able to get on the visitor side fairly quickly IF they were truly interested in updating its facilities. The silence is an insult to the fan base and totally a disservice to the university fan base.

OMG YES YES YES YES!!!

I wish they would just do a go fund me campaign on something like this what would''t take a ton of money just to give the public a chance to either step up to plate or go home.

Right now, there is no trans-parity and it appears the public is being left in the dark on purpose- while the rest of the big Sky continues to create distance from their facilities compared to EWU D2 level facilities. They should give the public a chance to show support at the very least. It's Very disappointing and disingenuous and calls into the question the motive of the silence. I think from a PR standpoint, the whole stadium improvement process has been severely mismanaged by the university and it's a shame.

It makes you wonder if everyone in leadership is just happy to status-quo with the current facilities and talk of improvements are just a smoke screen