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There are not that many FBS or FCS high school football players in Colorado period. UNC has the alotted 63 scholarships that all scholarship FCS schools have, however 15 of them are specifically for out of state kids in order to cover the out of state tuition. That is why there are kids on the roster from out of state. CSU has 34 Colorado kids and CU has 41. Does that mean they don't know how to recruit Colorado or that they know what type of athlete can make it at the FBS, FCS level.

"You say that every Colorado kid on the roster has been offered by UNC, which I don't think is true, but how many were offered a "full ride"? bearsfan24

All of them. I made it a point to be around the program so that when I have something to complain about, I know what I am talking about. How about you. Recruiting was not the problem. Talent wise, these last 2 seasons UNC should have been .500 at worse. The issue was motivation, discipline, and getting the team ready for Saturday with Coach Downing. His tenure was a case of the inmates running the asylum
 
Thanks for the great insight. I have been wondering about the full rides. And I think everyone is in agreement on Coach Downings motivation. We really need someone out of the group of five up for the HC position that is going to light a fire under this team and show some freakin emotion!!
 
There are not that many FBS or FCS high school football players in Colorado period. UNC has the alotted 63 scholarships that all scholarship FCS schools have, however 15 of them are specifically for out of state kids in order to cover the out of state tuition. That is why there are kids on the roster from out of state. CSU has 34 Colorado kids and CU has 41. Does that mean they don't know how to recruit Colorado or that they know what type of athlete can make it at the FBS, FCS level.

I disagree. I think there plenty of talent here in the state to win a the FCS level, take a look at the 3 first team all-conference guys they were all Colorado kids. I just think Dowining didn't put in hard enough effort to find some of those guys. There's FBS talent here as well just not enough of it, that's why CSU and CU go other places for their talent. UNC isn't CU or CSU.

"You say that every Colorado kid on the roster has been offered by UNC, which I don't think is true, but how many were offered a "full ride"? bearsfan24

All of them. I made it a point to be around the program so that when I have something to complain about, I know what I am talking about. How about you. Recruiting was not the problem. Talent wise, these last 2 seasons UNC should have been .500 at worse. The issue was motivation, discipline, and getting the team ready for Saturday with Coach Downing. His tenure was a case of the inmates running the asylum

I don't know how true that is, but from somewhat credible posters on this board, there has been reports that scholarships have been split up. You said that 15 scholarships were set aside for out of state kids, yet there's 25 or something out of state kids on the current roster. So some of those kids aren't getting anything? I just think that scholarship money should be put to use a little more wisely. That's why I wonder why UNC constantly lacks depth at certain positions, like OL, why wasn't that addressed over the years. Was Downing not placing a emphasis on it or was he using that money somewhere else? Or was it he just didn't know what he was doing? There's nothing wrong with sprinkling in out state guys.
 
fedup said:
There are not that many FBS or FCS high school football players in Colorado period. UNC has the alotted 63 scholarships that all scholarship FCS schools have, however 15 of them are specifically for out of state kids in order to cover the out of state tuition. That is why there are kids on the roster from out of state. CSU has 34 Colorado kids and CU has 41. Does that mean they don't know how to recruit Colorado or that they know what type of athlete can make it at the FBS, FCS level.

"You say that every Colorado kid on the roster has been offered by UNC, which I don't think is true, but how many were offered a "full ride"? bearsfan24

All of them. I made it a point to be around the program so that when I have something to complain about, I know what I am talking about. How about you. Recruiting was not the problem. Talent wise, these last 2 seasons UNC should have been .500 at worse. The issue was motivation, discipline, and getting the team ready for Saturday with Coach Downing. His tenure was a case of the inmates running the asylum

Fed Up you should be called Bull Shit. I'm doubting your closeness to the program. You said Collins was not interested in the job, yet todays Tribune had an interview with him and he would love to come back to UNC. Your credibility went down a few notches there Bobby.
 
“That's my alma mater, that's where I learned to become a man and it taught me about life a lot,” Collins said. “So any time my name comes up in connection with the University of Northern Colorado, it is always an honor and a privilege.”

"Honor and privilage to be considered" dosen't say I would love to come back to UNC. No not all out of state kids are on scholarship because many of them are walk ons. Some of these walk ons have earned some scholarship money because of their hard work. A guy like Lee Barbiasz was a walk on tight end with no scholarship, but willingly switched to O-line and has earned more money each year. As far as depth on the line, Many of the guys brought in over the last 3-4 ears were Dennis Darnell's recruits and none of them have panned out except for Nic Candler, and many of them are not on the team anymore. Of the starting O-line this past season, Cody gilmore and Amal Gumbs are converted D-lineman, and Lee Barbiasz is a converted walk on tight end.
 
fedup said:
“That's my alma mater, that's where I learned to become a man and it taught me about life a lot,” Collins said. “So any time my name comes up in connection with the University of Northern Colorado, it is always an honor and a privilege.”

"Honor and privilage to be considered" dosen't say I would love to come back to UNC. No not all out of state kids are on scholarship because many of them are walk ons. Some of these walk ons have earned some scholarship money because of their hard work. A guy like Lee Barbiasz was a walk on tight end with no scholarship, but willingly switched to O-line and has earned more money each year. As far as depth on the line, Many of the guys brought in over the last 3-4 ears were Dennis Darnell's recruits and none of them have panned out except for Nic Candler, and many of them are not on the team anymore. Of the starting O-line this past season, Cody gilmore and Amal Gumbs are converted D-lineman, and Lee Barbiasz is a converted walk on tight end.

Well shit, you certainly know a hell of a lot more about the team than I do. Granted, so does everyone since I live in Maryland and an inside scoop is rather hard to come by.
 
fedup said:
“That's my alma mater, that's where I learned to become a man and it taught me about life a lot,” Collins said. “So any time my name comes up in connection with the University of Northern Colorado, it is always an honor and a privilege.”

"Honor and privilage to be considered" dosen't say I would love to come back to UNC. No not all out of state kids are on scholarship because many of them are walk ons. Some of these walk ons have earned some scholarship money because of their hard work. A guy like Lee Barbiasz was a walk on tight end with no scholarship, but willingly switched to O-line and has earned more money each year. As far as depth on the line, Many of the guys brought in over the last 3-4 ears were Dennis Darnell's recruits and none of them have panned out except for Nic Candler, and many of them are not on the team anymore. Of the starting O-line this past season, Cody gilmore and Amal Gumbs are converted D-lineman, and Lee Barbiasz is a converted walk on tight end.


If he's not interested in the job why didn't he just say so? Also, he probably wouldn't had taken the first step and applied in the first place if he wasn't interested. If he has signed on to coach at Alcorn I'll be the first to apologize, but something is messed up.
 
Beardown said:
fedup said:
“That's my alma mater, that's where I learned to become a man and it taught me about life a lot,” Collins said. “So any time my name comes up in connection with the University of Northern Colorado, it is always an honor and a privilege.”

"Honor and privilage to be considered" dosen't say I would love to come back to UNC. No not all out of state kids are on scholarship because many of them are walk ons. Some of these walk ons have earned some scholarship money because of their hard work. A guy like Lee Barbiasz was a walk on tight end with no scholarship, but willingly switched to O-line and has earned more money each year. As far as depth on the line, Many of the guys brought in over the last 3-4 ears were Dennis Darnell's recruits and none of them have panned out except for Nic Candler, and many of them are not on the team anymore. Of the starting O-line this past season, Cody gilmore and Amal Gumbs are converted D-lineman, and Lee Barbiasz is a converted walk on tight end.


If he's not interested in the job why didn't he just say so? Also, he probably wouldn't had taken the first step and applied in the first place if he wasn't interested. If he has signed on to coach at Alcorn I'll be the first to apologize, but something is messed up.

Again, this is on the Alcorn State website under University Relations:

However, maybe there's a clause in his contract that lets him out (free of charge) if his Alma Mater comes calling.

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Coach Collins acquired a contract extension and a renewed enthusiasm for the game.

Alcorn State, MS - Dr. George E. Ross has announced that Earnest Collins will receive a three-year contract to continue as head coach of the Alcorn State Braves football program.


The Braves (3-6, 3-4) sat alone in first place in the Eastern Division midway through the season after being picked to finish last. Alcorn couldn't hold on, but the win against Jackson State gave the program three wins for the first time since 2006 when the team finished 6-5.

Collins coached the Alcorn State Braves this season on a one-year deal and advanced in the conference much better than anyone expected.

Head football coach Earnest E. Collins, Jr. agreed on a new three-year contract that runs through the 2012 season. “We are delighted that Coach Collins will continue to lead the Alcorn State University Braves football program. He and the entire football staff share the University’s vision for excellence and they care about the welfare of our student-athletes both on the field and in the classroom,” said Mrs. Brenda T. Square, interim director of athletics.
In 2008, he served as the defensive coordinator/associate head coach for the Braves. Prior to joining the Braves’ staff, Collins spent a year coaching secondary for the University of Central Florida, where the Knights ranked 3rd in the C-USA defensive statistics. Collins began his collegiate coaching career at Northwest Missouri State University as secondary/assistant special teams coach from 96-99. During those three seasons with the Bearcats, the team won two NCAA Division II National Champions (1998, 1999). After leaving Northwest Missouri, Collins returned to his alma mater, the University of Northern Colorado as the coordinator-secondary/special teams, strength and conditioning and film during 1999-2003. During his tenure there, he helped shape a defense that was ranked nationally from 2000-2003. When Coach Collins departed from the Bears, he became a part of the Jayhawks coaching staff. From 2003-06, he served in the capacity of the special teams and cornerbacks coach. During this tenure, he organized the “Character First” and “Mentors” program. Also, the Jayhawks’ defense was ranked 3rd in the Big 12 and 20th in the nation. Collins began his collegiate playing career at the University of Northern Colorado (1991-94) as a defensive back and punt returner. He earned All-North Central Conference honors following his senior year. He currently holds the Northern Colorado records for career (967) and season (497) punt return yards. Collins received his bachelor’s in kinesiology (physical education) from University of Northern Colorado. In 2000, he received his master’s in athletic administration from Northwest Missouri State University. He is married to Tabatha, and they have two daughters, Tayler and Marci.




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John Wristen from CSU-Pueblo is withdrawing his name from consideration according to the Tribune. Well, could we really only have 3 candidates? This is unbelievable.
 
Here's a SWAC blog that writes about Collins and UNC. It doesn't really clarify anything though.
ttp://blogs.clarionledger.com/jsu/2010/12/09/out-of-lorman-a-bizarre-statement-we-received/
 
Beardown said:
John Wristen from CSU-Pueblo is withdrawing his name from consideration according to the Tribune. Well, could we really only have 3 candidates? This is unbelievable.

If UNC is down to 3 candidates then hire the guy who knows how to win in the Big Sky and has proved it!

By the way, the Denver Post reported over a week ago that Wristen was not interested in the UNC job.
 
#1bearsfan said:
Beardown said:
John Wristen from CSU-Pueblo is withdrawing his name from consideration according to the Tribune. Well, could we really only have 3 candidates? This is unbelievable.

If UNC is down to 3 candidates then hire the guy who knows how to win in the Big Sky and has proved it!

By the way, the Denver Post reported over a week ago that Wristen was not interested in the UNC job.

Yeah, I would think Breske is the clear cut favorite. Here's my choice(s)

1. Breske
2. O'Boyle
 
I do not know if Earnest Collins has any kind of clause in his contract or a buyout, but he is still making the trip in for an interview as of now. So there are still potentially 4 candidates. I have met Bob Stitt this past year, and think that he can do some great things here with some of his ideas. I also like Mike Breske because he knows the Big Sky, coaching in it and winning a national title with Montana. I do not know anything about other 2 candidates other than what you can find online. It will be interesting to see who the commitee likes
 
fedup said:
I do not know if Earnest Collins has any kind of clause in his contract or a buyout, but he is still making the trip in for an interview as of now. So there are still potentially 4 candidates. I have met Bob Stitt this past year, and think that he can do some great things here with some of his ideas. I also like Mike Breske because he knows the Big Sky, coaching in it and winning a national title with Montana. I do not know anything about other 2 candidates other than what you can find online. It will be interesting to see who the commitee likes

It must be a clause, because no way in hell UNC has the money to buy out a 3 year contract. I can't decide if I like Collins or Breske better. Either I think will be a nice choice.
 
Wristen is out of the running according to the AP.

http://missoulian.com/college/griz/article_bd597ef0-074f-11e0-8b5c-001cc4c002e0.html

Another candidate for the UNC job, Colorado State-Pueblo coach John Wristen, withdrew his name from consideration Thursday.
 
I know it is from a different thread but I was to lazy to go find it. Souers from NAU just got a contract extension for 3 years. Salary upped from $105K to $130K plus incentives. Seems to me that $125K plus incentives would make sense for the bears. We'll see how it plays out.

http://azdailysun.com/sports/article_7a001904-c1d7-506d-8d9f-9624c28ccfe9.html
 
uncfootballrules said:
Seems to me that $125K plus incentives would make sense for the bears.

that doesn't mean UNC can afford $125K just because it makes sense. Heck we'd get a much better pool if we could afford $200K, but that's not reality either.
 
Nice article about Chadron's Bill O'Boyle. I would be okay with this guy. Hell, I'll be excited about any of them as long as it's not Bob Stitt. We should have a coach by Friday at the latest.
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20101214/SPORTS/712149938/1051&ParentProfile=1001
 

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