UM vs WSU Game Thread

[oldrunner]

I watched that game, start to finish. Montana was not given that game. they earned it. The officiating was not good, but it was tipical BSC. The only problem I had with it was that they would often let hard fouls go and then turn around and call the ticky tack variety. Also, they are sooooo eager to call a charge, when about 80% of them are actually blocking fouls. They rarely call traveling on the shuffeling of feet or changing a pivot foot. It seems, at times, that they are so concerned about looking good that they fail to really get into doing their job on the court. I think that the majority of their problems stem directly to BSC administration and not to lack of ability.

If this game were to be called well, the incident at the end would not have happened. There would not have been the frustration and tention that had built to that point. :twocents:

It is time that the BSC fired their Administrator of Officiating. :thumb:

Do it, BSC commish! :nod:

 

[Lennay Kekua]

I watched that game, start to finish. Montana was not given that game. they earned it. The officiating was not good, but it was tipical BSC. The only problem I had with it was that they would often let hard fouls go and then turn around and call the ticky tack variety. Also, they are sooooo eager to call a charge, when about 80% of them are actually blocking fouls. They rarely call traveling on the shuffeling of feet or changing a pivot foot. It seems, at times, that they are so concerned about looking good that they fail to really get into doing their job on the court. I think that the majority of their problems stem directly to BSC administration and not to lack of ability.

If this game were to be called well, the incident at the end would not have happened. There would not have been the frustration and tention that had built to that point. :twocents:

It is time that the BSC fired their Administrator of Officiating. :thumb:

Do it, BSC commish! :nod:

Great post! It drives me insane when that ticky tack stuff gets called like you mentioned. The BSC refs just need replacing bad...with someone better of course.

 

[wildkyle]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

 

[ClarkWGrizwald]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English translation dictionary. ;-)

 

[wildkyle]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English dictionary. ;-)

What are you talking about?

 

[Lennay Kekua]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English dictionary. ;-)

What are you talking about?

If I'm not mistaken, that's precisely what he was asking you.

 

[oldrunner]

There is a little bit of star treatment that goes on. That happens everywhere. It's human nature. WC is getting it this year. DL got it last year. Is it right? Probably not, but it's going to happen. As a WSU fan, I have seen it go our way often, and Montana's way often. Every once in a while, another team in the league will get it, but not real often. The rest of the BSC must be really frustrated. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[ClarkWGrizwald]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English dictionary. ;-)

What are you talking about?

I only read English, so I had no idea what your post meant.

 

[Bluefin]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English dictionary. ;-)

What are you talking about?

I only read English, so I had no idea what your post meant.

Racist

 

[ClarkWGrizwald]

The Sacromanto State game when the refs called a blocking foul instead of a charge which it was is a good example of Montana getting what they want.

Ummm, what? I've seemed to have misplaced my Kyle to English dictionary. ;-)

What are you talking about?

I only read English, so I had no idea what your post meant.

Racist

:bad:

:lol:

 

[weberwildcat]

We really shouldn't be arguing about how bad big sky refs suck. We all know this, they hav suckex for many years fr all teams.

:bad:

 

[wsucatfan]

We really shouldn't be arguing about how bad big sky refs suck. We all know this, they hav suckex for many years fr all teams.

:bad:

I think I agree with your post, if I decyphered it correctly.

 

[weberwildcat]

:lol: sorry. was using phone.

 

[n.ogdencat]

It has taken me a few days to really digest this game. Tragic how it ended!! I only have few bones to pick over this. First, the loss on Thursday, which shouldn't have been a loss. Weber lost to MSU because they were looking the bobs in anticipation to the UM game. As Catcat said to me in a text...the annual WTF game by the Cats. MSU had to take ISU to overtime on Saturday, which is proof to me, once again, that teams are preparing for Weber and overlooking ISU. Sorry Bengal...again and again ISU is getting the benefit of teams really focusing on the Cats, which is great for the Bengal's and Evans. In the near future teams won't be able to do this. ISU is only a couple of players away from turning the program into a .500 team. LOOOOOOOL.

Second, end of the game. Weber should have gotten the ball on their side of the court. It was clear the Montana player did not touch the ball till he was clearly out of bounds on the opposite side of the court, which should have given the Cats the ball, down by two, with 3 seconds left on their end of the court. That is why the Cats were huddled by their bench and on that end. The ball should have been on that end too. The refs blew that one. Watch the replay, I have many times, the ref (baldy Mcgee) missed that call. By the way, that ref totally blows goats. He made a lot of terrible calls on both sides of the court. I really thought that Ruben was a better ref, but he clearly showed some incompetence in this one.

Finally, and I don't get too upset, because as a Weber fan I have witnessed a handful of Cats throughout the years get the benefit of the whistle (Lillard, Boyette, Gill, Ruben, Al...etc etc), however, Montana got some crucial calls at the start of the second half that should have been no calls. Wards miracle shot was an amazing shot, but there shouldn't have been a foul called. There was no contact and Mook was playing excellent defense. Same with two and ones from Jamaar and, I believe the criminal DeSheilds (that guy needs to shut his cake hole. He did very little to affect the outcome of that game. Cherry, Jamaar, Ward, and even Coleman were the real heros...not the smack talking fool DeSheilds), that should have been no calls. Out of the first seven possessions, Montana found themselves on the FT line 5 times, and out of those 5 only 1 was a legitimate foul. Ward was virtually sodemizing our bigs the entire game and rarely got whistled.

However, I'm not blaming the outcome of the game on the Cats. Weber missed some wide open and huge shots and turned the ball over too many times. Gelaun is coming along nicely for a sophmore, but missed three huge, open threes, and then missed a couple of FTs that he needs to be hitting. Weber should have and could have stolen that game, but didn't. They only have themselves to blame for the loss.

Oh...have to agree..the UM antics on the bench is fruity at best.

 

[ClarkWGrizwald]

Weber should have gotten the ball on their side of the court. It was clear the Montana player did not touch the ball till he was clearly out of bounds on the opposite side of the court,

The rest of your post I'll ignore, because I didn't find much value in it. But I will say that you're 100% incorrect with the quote above.

It wouldn't have mattered if Coleman was standing in California on that play, as long as the ball didn't hit out of bounds prior to him touching it. Because the ball bounced in the court, it was established in-bounds. It is then not out of bounds until it touches something, in this case, Spencer Coleman. The touch and the out-of-bounds can occur simultaneously. That portion of the call was absolutely correct.

However, that was a clear 5 second violation (more accurately, a 35 second violation!), or -- alternatively -- a T on Weber's bench for taking a TO they didn't have, and UM should have been allowed to in-bound under their own basket. So yes, the officials did blow that call, but not in the way you suggest.

 

[Lennay Kekua]

Really??? A criminal??? C'mon man! He did more to help us than wheelright did for you guys and he's the biggest jerk in the conference if you ask me. Never shut his mouth, doesn't make I happen on the court. Keron's passing is the biggest thing he brings, doesn't need to score a bunch.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Yeah not much value other than im right. You cant address it so run little man. We are all out of crazy go find it somewhere else. Except, I hate to break this to you, once you the player, steps out of bounds, you are out. He touvhed it after stepping out and the ball was never tuched in bounds. The ref made the wrong call. End of story. The ball should have been in bounded on Webers side of the court. The refs should have reviewed the play.

Desheilds is trash. Along with the rest of the fruits on your bench. A bunch of immature and idiotic antics that any self respecting coach wouldn't allow.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Yep Gelaun sucked it up. Agreed!! Sheilds is still trash.

 

[Lennay Kekua]

That's just ignorant. He's actually pretty classy, he just does this weird thing called having more fun than anyone on the court. Also if you're gonna call him trash, remember the De

 

[oldrunner]

As for Montana's bench antics, It was definatly a little non hetero. I have seen some womens programs around the country do those things, and it looked fairly good for them. I wouldn't shower with any of those guys. :lol: :lol: :lol: