Vernon Adams

[GoldenEagle]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

I’m not sure why you are still here. You got your QB. Just live with the fact that your program is viewed as being pathetically desperate to fill the gaps it thinks it needs to stay relevant. I guess UO is happy with this weak strategy because it just rewarded your coach with five more years. I doubt you will be very happy five years from now.

 

[SpokaneDuck]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

P.S. Don't 24 FCS teams make those "real" playoffs you speak of? If so, how is your 5 of 6 or 8 out of the last 11 in anyway impressive? That would be like bragging that you made some random bowl game. Try staying on top and competing in the whacked-out BCS system (like the Ducks did), or making the 4-team, highly subjective college football playoffs, as the Ducks also did.

 

[SpokaneDuck]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

I’m not sure why you are still here. You got your QB. Just live with the fact that your program is viewed as being pathetically desperate to fill the gaps it thinks it needs to stay relevant. I guess UO is happy with this weak strategy because it just rewarded your coach with five more years. I doubt you will be very happy five years from now.

Well, as a resident of Spokane for the past few years I have loosely followed the EWU program. As a proud Duck Alumnus (class of '97) it piqued my interest when rumors began to flare up about VA's possible transfer to Oregon.

After sifting through post after post of boiling-hot ignorance I felt the need to at least defend my alma mater from the sensationalist-hyperbole that many have thrown around on here like fact.

 

[EWUeag]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

I'm not sure why you're getting off on arguing which program is better. That's like a heavyweight champ telling the welterweight champ that he's a better fighter.

We are fully aware that UO can recruit better players, has better facilities, is way more high-profile etc. However, what we have is a program that has overcome shitty facilities and an athletic budget leaps and bounds smaller than even schools within our own conference. Yet we are still able to get the best head coach, the best QB, the best receivers, and usually the best linebacker and safety in our conference.

It's an excellent time to be an EWU fan. Record breaking attendance, 3 conference titles in a row, and we as fans get pissed when we lose in the Semi's whereas only a few years ago just getting to the playoffs was exceptional.

As far as Baldwin is concerned - everyone on this board knows that regardless of what type of contract he signs here, the moment the right opportunity presents itself, he'll be gone. He's a competitor, and he, to, wants to win at the highest level he can. Not to mention an offer of 4x-5x what he's making now won't hurt.

So please, go away. You have VA, now go back to trolling UW boards, and hope that we don't make it a game on September 5th.

 

[Phalanx]

I'm not sure why you're getting off on arguing which program is better. That's like a heavyweight champ telling the welterweight champ that he's a better fighter.

We are fully aware that UO can recruit better players, has better facilities, is way more high-profile etc. However, what we have is a program that has overcome shitty facilities and an athletic budget leaps and bounds smaller than even schools within our own conference. Yet we are still able to get the best head coach, the best QB, the best receivers, and usually the best linebacker and safety in our conference.

It's an excellent time to be an EWU fan. Record breaking attendance, 3 conference titles in a row, and we as fans get pissed when we lose in the Semi's whereas only a few years ago just getting to the playoffs was exceptional.

As far as Baldwin is concerned - everyone on this board knows that regardless of what type of contract he signs here, the moment the right opportunity presents itself, he'll be gone. He's a competitor, and he, to, wants to win at the highest level he can. Not to mention an offer of 4x-5x what he's making now won't hurt.

So please, go away. You have VA, now go back to trolling UW boards, and hope that we don't make it a game on September 5th.

Great post. Here's to the Eagles playing their hearts out on 9/5.

 

[FormerEag]

Great post EWUeag. Oregon fans are the absolute worst. This thread has made me glad I no longer live in Oregon.

 

[lbeagle]

Hey

 

[SpokaneDuck]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

I'm not sure why you're getting off on arguing which program is better. That's like a heavyweight champ telling the welterweight champ that he's a better fighter.

We are fully aware that UO can recruit better players, has better facilities, is way more high-profile etc. However, what we have is a program that has overcome shitty facilities and an athletic budget leaps and bounds smaller than even schools within our own conference. Yet we are still able to get the best head coach, the best QB, the best receivers, and usually the best linebacker and safety in our conference.

It's an excellent time to be an EWU fan. Record breaking attendance, 3 conference titles in a row, and we as fans get pissed when we lose in the Semi's whereas only a few years ago just getting to the playoffs was exceptional.

As far as Baldwin is concerned - everyone on this board knows that regardless of what type of contract he signs here, the moment the right opportunity presents itself, he'll be gone. He's a competitor, and he, to, wants to win at the highest level he can. Not to mention an offer of 4x-5x what he's making now won't hurt.

So please, go away. You have VA, now go back to trolling UW boards, and hope that we don't make it a game on September 5th.

I understand that EWU has overcome much adversity in the last decade to become relevant at the FCS level. It is most definitely something to be proud of, and I laud them for that.

What many of you fail to understand is that the Duck program, too, has had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where they are today. I went to UO during the '90s when Oregon football (and Oregon athletics as a whole) was a complete joke (aside from a couple of great seasons). We, too, had crappy facilities, lack of donor support, and an extremely difficult time recruiting top players to come to our school.

It isn't easy to get recruits (many of whom have tremendous egos) to come live in wet and rainy Eugene, Orygone when they can live in Seattle, the Bay Area, Los Angeles, or Arizona instead.

I have historical perspective on the Ducks, and have watched as this team has made a miraculous rise from the dust to become a perennial powerhouse. There are several reasons for why the Ducks have found sustained success, and money is not the only factor. Plenty of programs have lots of money and major donors (Cal, Stanford, Washington, Oklahoma State, etc.) and haven't come close to the sustained level of success and prominence that the Ducks have captured.

No Duck fan that has followed the team for longer than 15 years has forgotten where we come from.

If your fellow EWU brethren want to continue arguing that Ducks cheated to get where they are, so be it.

 

[lbeagle]

Oregon is the Kim Kardashian of the football scene. Look at me I have over 400 different outfits and that makes me important.

 

[lbeagle]

Guess what two teams in the pac 12 have gone unbeaten and won a NC? IT'S NOT A DUCK. It's SC AND UW . Please win a NC before you start telling other fans how great you are. OREGON is the premier program on the northwest at the current time. All that Nike money and no national championship. Please go to the osu auburn alabama nd websites and shoot your mouths off about how great your program is. I don't think those programs who have a pedigree of national championships are on a FCS website touting themselves like you guys. I guess. NO MEANS NO.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

P.S. Don't 24 FCS teams make those "real" playoffs you speak of? If so, how is your 5 of 6 or 8 out of the last 11 in anyway impressive? That would be like bragging that you made some random bowl game. Try staying on top and competing in the whacked-out BCS system (like the Ducks did), or making the 4-team, highly subjective college football playoffs, as the Ducks also did.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So much delusion of grandeur.

The ROSE BOWL!!! SO COOL! How is that any way impressive? That's like winning the Big Sky and then not shitting down your leg in the first round of the playoffs 50% of the time. :lol:

Try taking one of the lowest athletic budgets in the conference (and possibly nationally), and still being a National Championship contender every season (like the Eags are doing), instead of just trying to buy your way to some pretentious and meaningless bowl game or "National Championship" blowout loss (like the Ducks did). Yeah, the reason that highly coveted four-team "playoff" is subjective?

 

[SpokaneDuck]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

P.S. Don't 24 FCS teams make those "real" playoffs you speak of? If so, how is your 5 of 6 or 8 out of the last 11 in anyway impressive? That would be like bragging that you made some random bowl game. Try staying on top and competing in the whacked-out BCS system (like the Ducks did), or making the 4-team, highly subjective college football playoffs, as the Ducks also did.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So much delusion of grandeur.

The ROSE BOWL!!! SO COOL! How is that any way impressive? That's like winning the Big Sky and then not shitting down your leg in the first round of the playoffs 50% of the time. :lol:

Try taking one of the lowest athletic budgets in the conference (and possibly nationally), and still being a National Championship contender every season (like the Eags are doing), instead of just trying to buy your way to some pretentious and meaningless bowl game or "National Championship" blowout loss (like the Ducks did). Yeah, the reason that highly coveted four-team "playoff" is subjective?

Your (ex) starting quarterback seems pretty impressed :nod:

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

P.S. Don't 24 FCS teams make those "real" playoffs you speak of? If so, how is your 5 of 6 or 8 out of the last 11 in anyway impressive? That would be like bragging that you made some random bowl game. Try staying on top and competing in the whacked-out BCS system (like the Ducks did), or making the 4-team, highly subjective college football playoffs, as the Ducks also did.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So much delusion of grandeur.

The ROSE BOWL!!! SO COOL! How is that any way impressive? That's like winning the Big Sky and then not shitting down your leg in the first round of the playoffs 50% of the time. :lol:

Try taking one of the lowest athletic budgets in the conference (and possibly nationally), and still being a National Championship contender every season (like the Eags are doing), instead of just trying to buy your way to some pretentious and meaningless bowl game or "National Championship" blowout loss (like the Ducks did). Yeah, the reason that highly coveted four-team "playoff" is subjective?

Your (ex) starting quarterback seems pretty impressed :nod:

Yeah, who'd a thunk it? A student-athlete who also has a kid and family to support needing cash? Weird. It's almost like the U of O has recognized this draw, and uses one of the richest people in America to exploit this.

 

[SpokaneDuck]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

P.S. Don't 24 FCS teams make those "real" playoffs you speak of? If so, how is your 5 of 6 or 8 out of the last 11 in anyway impressive? That would be like bragging that you made some random bowl game. Try staying on top and competing in the whacked-out BCS system (like the Ducks did), or making the 4-team, highly subjective college football playoffs, as the Ducks also did.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So much delusion of grandeur.

The ROSE BOWL!!! SO COOL! How is that any way impressive? That's like winning the Big Sky and then not shitting down your leg in the first round of the playoffs 50% of the time. :lol:

Try taking one of the lowest athletic budgets in the conference (and possibly nationally), and still being a National Championship contender every season (like the Eags are doing), instead of just trying to buy your way to some pretentious and meaningless bowl game or "National Championship" blowout loss (like the Ducks did). Yeah, the reason that highly coveted four-team "playoff" is subjective?

Your (ex) starting quarterback seems pretty impressed :nod:

Yeah, who'd a thunk it? A student-athlete who also has a kid and family to support needing cash? Weird. It's almost like the U of O has recognized this draw, and uses one of the richest people in America to exploit this.

You seem to use a lot of hyperbolic anecdotes and wild theories as the basis of your arguments.

Can you link me to something proving that Knight, Nike, or the UO paid Vernon Adams to transfer, or was that just an uneducated guess?

 

[kalm]

This thread is awesome! :notworthy:

Question for the Duck fans. Since you're still recruiting dual threat QB's do you think VA will be forced to run the read option or will Oregon change it's play calling to accommodate his size and speed?

 

[EWURanger]

So you guys continue to laud Beau Baldwin as this loyal, Eagle-loving saint of a coach; yet just two months ago while in preparation for heated-rival Montana, he said this: "By no means would I not be interested in hearing from a school at the Pac-12 level.” - Beau Baldwin (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/05/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-as-strong/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Even Chip Kelly had the ethical capacity to belay NFL talk until after the season was over.

So how are Vernon and Beau any different? Vernon put in his four years at EWU and is going to graduate with his bachelor's. He decided to take his final year of eligibility elsewhere to chase his dreams and raise his profile. It looks like even your coach had/has similar aspirations. The only difference is that Vernon got his ticket out, while Beau got left at the terminal.

Judging by his comments in that press conference, he sure doesn't seem to have much faith in the talent that flows through the FCS.

How will you all feel toward Baldwin when he jumps ship to Washington State next season after the Leach regime ends its unravelling?

Just come to terms with the sad truth that you are a fan of an unethical program. Quit attempting to justify UO's behavior. Now move on cheater, cheater. :lol:

Chip Kelly was caught cheating and -- subsequently -- left for the NFL. Phil Knight I'm sure has been involved in plenty of shady interactions. Mark Helfrich (this may just be a rumor) once farted on an elevator full of recruits and tried to pin it on an offensive line prospect.

The Ducks got caught cheating, we lost some scholarships, and everybody knows it about. I deny nothing.

At the end of the day I can say these two things that you can't:
1.) I know who the coach of my football team will be for at least the next 5 years (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12302276/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-gets-five-year-175m-contract-extension" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
2.) My team will continue to be relevant on a national stage for years to come

Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that Vernon Adams has brought to your squad and your flame-filled forum, EWU fan!

Epic fail.

1) EWU extended Baldwin with a new 5 year contract. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jan/29/beau-baldwins-new-contract-worth-212k-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2) EWU has won a NC in the last 5 years, and been in the national college football playoffs (you know, the real one) 5 of the last 6 years, and 8 of the last 11. EWU has been more successful nationally at the FCS level than Oregon has been nationally at the FBS level over the last decade.

Try again.

Since 2005, the Ducks are 106-26.
Since 2005, the Eagles are 85-43

Since 2008 the Ducks have:
Gone to 4 Rose Bowls (winning twice)
Gone to 2 National Championship games
Won 4 PAC-10/12 Titles
Won a Fiesta Bowl
Won an Alamo Bowl
Won a Heisman Trophy
Finished in the top 10 coaches and AP polls every season except 2009, when they finished 11th

And as far as putting talent in the NFL, i'll just direct you to the current lists:
Oregon: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4846" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Ducks have 37 current NFL players)
EWU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/4301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (You have 3 current NFL players)

The Ducks have been the most innovative, copied, and coveted football program in the nation for the past 5 years and counting. You all are completely delusional.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/2013/12/26/why-the-oregon-ducks-teach-us-that-luck-isnt-everything/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't act like Beau Baldwin won't try and bolt the moment he gets an offer at the next level.

I'm not sure why you're getting off on arguing which program is better. That's like a heavyweight champ telling the welterweight champ that he's a better fighter.

We are fully aware that UO can recruit better players, has better facilities, is way more high-profile etc. However, what we have is a program that has overcome shitty facilities and an athletic budget leaps and bounds smaller than even schools within our own conference. Yet we are still able to get the best head coach, the best QB, the best receivers, and usually the best linebacker and safety in our conference.

It's an excellent time to be an EWU fan. Record breaking attendance, 3 conference titles in a row, and we as fans get pissed when we lose in the Semi's whereas only a few years ago just getting to the playoffs was exceptional.

As far as Baldwin is concerned - everyone on this board knows that regardless of what type of contract he signs here, the moment the right opportunity presents itself, he'll be gone. He's a competitor, and he, to, wants to win at the highest level he can. Not to mention an offer of 4x-5x what he's making now won't hurt.

So please, go away. You have VA, now go back to trolling UW boards, and hope that we don't make it a game on September 5th.

I understand that EWU has overcome much adversity in the last decade to become relevant at the FCS level. It is most definitely something to be proud of, and I laud them for that.

What many of you fail to understand is that the Duck program, too, has had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where they are today. I went to UO during the '90s when Oregon football (and Oregon athletics as a whole) was a complete joke (aside from a couple of great seasons). We, too, had crappy facilities, lack of donor support, and an extremely difficult time recruiting top players to come to our school.

It isn't easy to get recruits (many of whom have tremendous egos) to come live in wet and rainy Eugene, Orygone when they can live in Seattle, the Bay Area, Los Angeles, or Arizona instead.

I have historical perspective on the Ducks, and have watched as this team has made a miraculous rise from the dust to become a perennial powerhouse. There are several reasons for why the Ducks have found sustained success, and money is not the only factor. Plenty of programs have lots of money and major donors (Cal, Stanford, Washington, Oklahoma State, etc.) and haven't come close to the sustained level of success and prominence that the Ducks have captured.

No Duck fan that has followed the team for longer than 15 years has forgotten where we come from.

If your fellow EWU brethren want to continue arguing that Ducks cheated to get where they are, so be it.

This is a well-reasoned post. Thanks for the objectivity.

 

[AmericasBird]

"What many of you fail to understand is that the Duck program, too, has had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where they are today."


Overcoming adversity implies you didn't buy your way out of obscurity and cut every corner you could along they way. You've earned very little, but you've sure bought a lot. Years of suffering a below mediocre program doesn't get you respect or a get out of jail free card now that you've won the lottery and run a dirty program.

Respect is earned not purchased.

 

[LDopaPDX]

"What many of you fail to understand is that the Duck program, too, has had to overcome a lot of adversity to get where they are today."


Overcoming adversity implies you didn't buy your way out of obscurity and cut every corner you could along they way. You've earned very little, but you've sure bought a lot. Years of suffering a below mediocre program doesn't get you respect or a get out of jail free card now that you've won the lottery and run a dirty program.

Respect is earned not purchased.

Rooting for Oregon is like rooting for Manchester City in soccer. It's just one wealthy guy buying success at any cost. In Europe, they would call Oregon a "Plastic Club." What's hilarious is that EVERYONE else in the Pac12 hates Oregon. I don't remember UW or USC being hated in the same manner when the ruled the Pac-12 roost. Every other Pac-12 university hates Oregon, however.

lbeagle saying Oregon is the Kim Kardashian of college football is dead-on. Hell, I bet "SpokaneDuck" probably roots for fucking Gonzaga as well. Why not pile on the douchieness?

 

[EWURanger]

Now Baldwin is being chastised in the media for not allowing Vernon to use the football facilities at EWU to train up. These people apparently don't realize that he's now a regular student at EWU. Regular student's aren't allowed to use football facilities...not seeing why there would be an exception here.

 

[kalm]

Now Bdwin is being chastised in the media for not allowing Vernon to use the football facilities at EWU to train up. These people apparently don't realize that he's now a regular student at EWU. Regular student's aren't allowed to use football facilities...not seeing why there would be an exception here.

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