Will VA play against Montana?

[LDopaPDX]

The MCL sprain was mentioned in passing, but MCL sprains aren't serious either. That's a max one month recovery as well, unless you're talking about a grade 3 sprain (one that doesn't tighten back up) in which case he'd have already been in surgery.

 

[clawman1]

OK lets speculate that he is on the field. Will be favor his broken foot? How much slower would that make him? Would you rather have a 90% Vernon or 100% Jordan? 80%? 70%?
You get my drift here, at what point is Vernon and his more accurate passes better than a more mobile Jordan?

 

[Rjones61]

OK lets speculate that he is on the field. Will be favor his broken foot? How much slower would that make him? Would you rather have a 90% Vernon or 100% Jordan? 80%? 70%?
You get my drift here, at what point is Vernon and his more accurate passes better than a more mobile Jordan?

I think on multiple occasions, VA has shown that he has the grit to push through pain. 90% VA any day.

 

[grizfnz]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

 

[Rjones61]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

 

[grizfnz]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

Great attitude!! Now just win the next 12 in a row to make the series even and we may finally have a rivalry in the BSC. Lord knows MSU certainly hasn't kept up on their end of the bargain, but there's 113 years of history.

 

[56n92]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

Great attitude!! Now just win the next 12 in a row to make the series even and we may finally have a rivalry in the BSC. Lord knows MSU certainly hasn't kept up on their end of the bargain, but there's 113 years of history.

Is that all you got? By living in the past you definitely recognize the mighty Eagles are going :thumb: while the lowly griz are going :thumbdown: But go ahead and hang on to that history.

 

[LDopaPDX]

He actually gave a legitimate response to a question, and got flamed for it. Eastern has risen, but now we've got to sustain the higher position.

 

[Obzerver]

OK lets speculate that he is on the field. Will be favor his broken foot? How much slower would that make him? Would you rather have a 90% Vernon or 100% Jordan? 80%? 70%?
You get my drift here, at what point is Vernon and his more accurate passes better than a more mobile Jordan?

I would take VA at whatever % he was playing at with the broken foot vs ISU for the entire second half. I know the uplift the team would have with him in would also be a factor. If there's an MCL issue and a question whether the foot needed a pin it must have been decided to wait till after the season to correct. Whether that's the case or not they want to have a chance of getting another title and that means getting a seed and that much needed bye/1st round home game. That means playing him vs UM because if we lose to UM that seed is probably gone. Wonder how many National Champions there's been that have had to play a 1st round game and not have a home game for the playoffs?

 

[LDopaPDX]

OK lets speculate that he is on the field. Will be favor his broken foot? How much slower would that make him? Would you rather have a 90% Vernon or 100% Jordan? 80%? 70%?
You get my drift here, at what point is Vernon and his more accurate passes better than a more mobile Jordan?

I would take VA at whatever % he was playing at with the broken foot vs ISU for the entire second half. I know the uplift the team would have with him in would also be a factor. If there's an MCL issue and a question whether the foot needed a pin it must have been decided to wait till after the season to correct. Whether that's the case or not they want to have a chance of getting another title and that means getting a seed and that much needed bye/1st round home game. That means playing him vs UM because if we lose to UM that seed is probably gone. Wonder how many National Champions there's been that have had to play a 1st round game and not have a home game for the playoffs?

Pretty much spot on, so far as I see it. I also think any prospective pro player is going to want to desperately show his toughness in the face of injuries.

 

[grizfnz]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

Great attitude!! Now just win the next 12 in a row to make the series even and we may finally have a rivalry in the BSC. Lord knows MSU certainly hasn't kept up on their end of the bargain, but there's 113 years of history.

Is that all you got? By living in the past you definitely recognize the mighty Eagles are going :thumb: while the lowly griz are going :thumbdown: But go ahead and hang on to that history.

Is that all i got?? Just what does EWU have?
The way I see it you are living/picking the "past" 3 years as your sample set as it helps support your agenda. I'm relying on the entire sample set which shows the big picture ie. EWU has had some success as of late (4 wins out of the last 10 years) but needs 12 straight to even the series. That's a fact that you can't argue and something that will never happen. We had 17 straight victories over the Cats, that will never happen again either, the Big Sky has changed too much. But don't let that keep you from drinking the "EWU football - undefeated against the lowly Griz since in 2011" kool-aid. BTW, if you win this year you would tie the EWU record for 3 consecutive wins over the Griz established 1990-1992. A win this year and next would tie you with the Griz consecutive win streaks over EWU (1986-1989, 1993-1996, 1998-2001 and 2006-2009). You probably jumped on the wagon after 2010 and were unaware these streaks for both programs.....that would require and understanding of history after all.

All history aside, good luck this weekend.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Dopa... I also think any prospective pro player is going to want to desperately show his toughness in the face of injuries.

Some criteria for putting VA in harm's way... Pretty foot loose with someone else's health Dopa. Guess you haven't taken the Hippocratic oath doctor?

 

[marceagfan5]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

Great attitude!! Now just win the next 12 in a row to make the series even and we may finally have a rivalry in the BSC. Lord knows MSU certainly hasn't kept up on their end of the bargain, but there's 113 years of history.

Is that all you got? By living in the past you definitely recognize the mighty Eagles are going :thumb: while the lowly griz are going :thumbdown: But go ahead and hang on to that history.

Is that all i got?? Just what does EWU have?
The way I see it you are living/picking the "past" 3 years as your sample set as it helps support your agenda. I'm relying on the entire sample set which shows the big picture ie. EWU has had some success as of late (4 wins out of the last 10 years) but needs 12 straight to even the series. That's a fact that you can't argue and something that will never happen. We had 17 straight victories over the Cats, that will never happen again either, the Big Sky has changed too much. But don't let that keep you from drinking the "EWU football - undefeated against the lowly Griz since in 2011" kool-aid. BTW, if you win this year you would tie the EWU record for 3 consecutive wins over the Griz established 1990-1992. A win this year and next would tie you with the Griz consecutive win streaks over EWU (1986-1989, 1993-1996, 1998-2001 and 2006-2009). You probably jumped on the wagon after 2010 and were unaware these streaks for both programs.....that would require and understanding of history after all.

All history aside, good luck this weekend.

Eh...nobody cares about the history anyways, and right now, thats all the Griz have to go on. Hell, EWU didn't even join the Big Sky until 1987. Do you know who cares about recent history? Recruits. Most the kids UM recruits don't know who DD even was, a lot of good that history is doing....

 

[marceagfan5]

VA is listed as questionable, game time decision.

 

[Rjones61]

VA is listed as questionable, game time decision.

SMOKE AND MIRRORS :thumb:

 

[EWURanger]

Does anyone have any inside information or is this all just personal opinions?

Having broken the same bones in both feet at different times as VA, I know that he can come back relatively quickly from that injury. If it is only the foot I say he plays Saturday, but if it is his knee too then we might be with West again. Of course this is only my opinion which doesn't carry much weight.

No inside information will make it to this board. We want Montana have to take the time to prepare for both quarterbacks.

They will prepare for VAJ, spending time preparing for West would be the equivalent of Baldwin having your D prepare for our 2nd and 3rd stringers. There is enough drop off between the #1 and #2 at both programs that if you game plan for the #1 there should be no problem stopping the #2.

:lol: Don't worry buttercup, we'll beat you with or without VA.

Great attitude!! Now just win the next 12 in a row to make the series even and we may finally have a rivalry in the BSC. Lord knows MSU certainly hasn't kept up on their end of the bargain, but there's 113 years of history.

Is that all you got? By living in the past you definitely recognize the mighty Eagles are going :thumb: while the lowly griz are going :thumbdown: But go ahead and hang on to that history.

Is that all i got?? Just what does EWU have?
The way I see it you are living/picking the "past" 3 years as your sample set as it helps support your agenda. I'm relying on the entire sample set which shows the big picture ie. EWU has had some success as of late (4 wins out of the last 10 years) but needs 12 straight to even the series. That's a fact that you can't argue and something that will never happen. We had 17 straight victories over the Cats, that will never happen again either, the Big Sky has changed too much. But don't let that keep you from drinking the "EWU football - undefeated against the lowly Griz since in 2011" kool-aid. BTW, if you win this year you would tie the EWU record for 3 consecutive wins over the Griz established 1990-1992. A win this year and next would tie you with the Griz consecutive win streaks over EWU (1986-1989, 1993-1996, 1998-2001 and 2006-2009). You probably jumped on the wagon after 2010 and were unaware these streaks for both programs.....that would require and understanding of history after all.

All history aside, good luck this weekend.

It's not about the entire history of the series, though, which is something most Montana fans struggle to get a grasp of. In the past 5 years, EWU has experienced an unprecedented success with its football program, to include:

- 3 x Big Sky Championships (Won outright in 2013, which no other team (sans Montana) has done since EWU in 1997)

- An upset of an AP Top 25 FBS School

- Three appearances in the FCS semi-finals since 2010

- An FCS National Championship

- Two National POY awards since 2010

- Hosted the first ever FCS feature game on ESPN to open the 2014 season

In the meantime, Montana has been making headlines, but for all the wrong reasons. We won't even go into that...but Montana has not won the Big Sky since 2009. That was 5 years ago. Got bounced in the first game of the playoffs last year by a Big South team.

All that said, Montana has a great program and will always be relevant on the National Stage in the FCS.

I'm willing to admit that recent success won't play any part in who wins this game, but neither is the overall history of the series.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Dopa... I also think any prospective pro player is going to want to desperately show his toughness in the face of injuries.

Some criteria for putting VA in harm's way... Pretty foot loose with someone else's health Dopa. Guess you haven't taken the Hippocratic oath doctor?

Players play. Yes, the doctors must clear him, but I understand that has happened already. You know damn well that football is about toughness. Players will be and are measured by it. Plus, don't doubt this kid. He's got heart and balls... You should've seen that when he was trudging around in the fourth quarter against Idaho State.

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

Rjones61,
If I knew VA was going to play Saturday, I wouldn't tell anyone, I don't believe in giving any advantages we may have. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Let Montana sit and wait to see who shows up on the field. Should Jordan West get the ok to start, so be it. I think he is capable of performing to the best of his ability. This will be his 5th game, he looks like he is ready for bigger and better things. All we can do now is hope for the best. Vic Wallace

 

[EWU98]

Rjones61,
If I knew VA was going to play Saturday, I wouldn't tell anyone, I don't believe in giving any advantages we may have. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Let Montana sit and wait to see who shows up on the field. Should Jordan West get the ok to start, so be it. I think he is capable of performing to the best of his ability. This will be his 5th game, he looks like he is ready for bigger and better things. All we can do now is hope for the best. Vic Wallace

:shock: :+1: :rockon: arty: :werd: :woo: :dope: :agree:
Best post in the thread! Way to go Hall of Famer!

 

[Vic E. Wallace]

To All,
Ronnie Hamlin is on the verge breaking J.C. Sheritts' record this weekend, hope they do something and present Ronnie with the ball. I know this is College FB, and they do not find it necessary to stop the game and present the ball. He will be breaking an "Outstanding Player" record, who is now in the Canadian Football League. Would like to see J.C, Sheritt here for that game and present Ronnie Hamlin with the Football. That is my :twocents: speech. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:. Weather is supposed to be dry, no rain but supposed to be 51 degrees high on Saturday. Go Eagles!!!!! Vic Wallace