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2014 Starting 5

Russ Gilson is the only Gilson I can find that we have ever recruited.Your Gilsonmust have been so damn good no one wrote any stories about him.

Sorry guys I am getting tired of the outlandish posts and BS without any supporting material.

Since you're on the message board Larry, why don't you tell us a little about Russell Gilson? Or any good stories about that Mercedes we bought you.
 
The big kid from Colorado was Tim Gibson. Gilson was recruited by Ron A. I don't remember his first name . I believe he was booted before he ever played a game for us. I seem to remember that he was from Detroit or Chicago. I couldn't find him on any stat sheets going back to the 80s. I don't think he ever played. I just saw him in practices. I can't be the only one who remembers the kid.
 
You're talking ancient history, oldrunner. Today's rating services didn't even exist during the time you're talking about. And even if they did exist, I highly doubt Weber ever landed a high school kid who would have been rated a 4.
 
Whatever you say 02. At the time, nobody could believe that we got the guy. He was supposed to be a high D1 player, a sure bet. Boy, was he a dud. Gibson was not quite as bad. At least he was a decent bench player for 4 years, after having been named Mr Basketball in Colorado his senior year. Those ratings are not the end all for determining who will be good at the next level. If they were that accurate, Dame would have been a 5 star.
 
oldrunner said:
Those ratings are not the end all for determining who will be good at the next level. If they were that accurate, Dame would have been a 5 star.
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That I think we can all agree on!
 
Let's get back to the thread. Based on the various comments on this forum, Weber is loaded at the 4 and 5 spots. In the past Rahe has run a 3-man rotation through those spots, but perhaps out of necessity. Will he go with a 4-man rotation this year? That still leaves 2 bigs with zero minutes.
Where Weber seems to be thin is at the 1, 2, and 3. Are there five quality players to fill the starting and reserve spots for those 3 positions? There seems to be much less confidence from the forum posters about that. Will Rahe be forced to use one sub like last year? But then he had the luxury of moving Berry to the point when Senglin was out.
I'm really interested to see what shakes out both in terms of who among our bigs gets the 15-25 minutes a night and who steps up among our guards/wings to deserve those kinds of minutes.
 
From what I can gather, and this is totally my opinion. I have not had a chance to talk to anyone associated with the program, but I really feel that Chris Golden is going to be depended upon quite a bit to play multiple positions. He is going to be the 2014-15 Berry. A guy who can play three positions. Senglin is the man. He will be our PG and play-maker, but when needed, he will also be able to play the 2. Gittens will be a SG/wing type player. But after those three, the Cats are going to be dependent on three true freshmen and a couple of walk on/Red-Shirt type players (Kennedy and whoever else coach brings in). I feel two of the three freshmen could possibly red shirt. I don't know who, but I feel it might be in their best interest. They are really small and don't look like DI athletes. Talented but lacking some serious size. Jefferson is the most talented of the group, Richardson is the best shooter, and Hunter has the best basketball IQ. Interesting what is going to happen. I still don't think anyone red shirts. If that is the case, then there are plenty of bodies available, but will they be good enough, NOW, to contribute effectively. Time will tell.
 
My five, purely my opinion:

Senglin
Golden
Gittens
Coston
Bolomboy

There is a log jam at the 4 and 5...lots of options: Bolomboy, Coston, Braxton, Hill, Hajek, and Van Pelt. Only one out of this group who can red shirt is Braxton, and I really don't think he will be either. Damn coach Rahe for assembling such a talented and deep team!! :lol:
 
talhadfoursteals said:
My five, purely my opinion:

Senglin
Golden
Gittens
Coston
Bolomboy

There is a log jam at the 4 and 5...lots of options: Bolomboy, Coston, Braxton, Hill, Hajek, and Van Pelt. Only one out of this group who can red shirt is Braxton, and I really don't think he will be either. Damn coach Rahe for assembling such a talented and deep team!! :lol:
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Talhad...... really respect your views and the logical manner in which you lay it out, but I'm surprised you didn't go with Hill. Where do you see him coming up short after two years in the program?
 
Coston seems a little small to be a PF. He'll be a match up problem at 6'6" going up against guys who are 6"9' 245lbs.

When did Coston at PF become an option?
 
Why do some of you feel that Bolomboy will play the 5? Just wondering. Speculation, or has Rahe said something? Personally, I have no idea who will start, but without knowing much about the new guys, I like this lineup: Senglin, Gittens, Hill, Bolomboy, Hajek (or Braxton). I just don't like playing Bolomboy at the center spot. :twocents:
 
02.......

Agree with you 100% I'm not sure where that came from and feel that it's not in Bolomboys or Weber's best interest. He's a match up nightmare at the PF spot, but somehow we jumped on the bandwagon to move him to the 5. It's probably easier to keep him on the court and out of foul trouble at PF.

Sometimes this forum takes on a life of its own.
 
I'm a huge fan of Hill. More than anything, I'd like to see him play and start at the three. At the end of last year you could tell he was starting to really make the transition offensively. On defense he is, based on the end of last year, a slight liability at the 3. He could have really opened up his game and gotten quicker since last year, which would make him more likely to play there. What my heart wants my head just won't concede yet. Coston on the other hand is a JC All-American. Very similar to Mook offensively, but quicker and better hops. He can't shoot for range from what I've heard but is a beast around the basket and is defensively solid. You don't sit a JC All-American. He had a lot of offers but chose Weber. My dream lineup would be:

Senglin
Golden
Hill
Coston
Bolomboy

But as 02 pointed out why play Bolomboy at the 4 when you have two or three decent 5s? Hajek is in great shape and is really able to move. We know what Braxton brings to the table and that's extremely exciting and Van Pelt is a tough guy who has some some serious finesse. I think the Cats are fine at the 5 and 4. It is the 3 that worries me. Either we go small and quick or big. Dangerous proposition knowing we can do both. But it is the weakest spot on the floor.

Maybe we see something like:
Senglin
Gittens
Golden
Bolomboy
Hajek
 
Mycats said:
Coston seems a little small to be a PF. He'll be a match up problem at 6'6" going up against guys who are 6"9' 245lbs.

When did Coston at PF become an option?
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Mook, Fulton, Panos, and two time first teamer for UNCO Derrick Barden were all undersized bigs. That's also his natural position. He is seriously long though. Long wingspan and arms.
 
Both Hill and J-Coston are good enough shooters and defenders to play the 3 spot for us. What is keeping them from doing that is ball handling. Hill has improved his ball handling, but is not quite ready for the transition. Both of them may get a little time at 3 if the matchups warrant it. However, their primary position will be as a 4.

One of the reasons that Bolomboy is being moved to the 5 spot is the play of Hill. Hill finished the season strong at that position and has continued to get better. He is light years ahead of J-Coston. If it is a 3 man rotation in the post players, then it would be Hill, Bolomboy, and Hajek. If it is a four man rotation, then you can add J-Coston or Braxton into the mix.

The chance that Randy would change his ways and play more than an 8 or 9 man rotation is quite slim. The 9th and 10th players on the list will get more playing time in the preseason, but by the time conference play starts 8 guys will get 99% of the PT. :coffee:
 
SWeberCat02 said:
Why do some of you feel that Bolomboy will play the 5? Just wondering. Speculation, or has Rahe said something? Personally, I have no idea who will start, but without knowing much about the new guys, I like this lineup: Senglin, Gittens, Hill, Bolomboy, Hajek (or Braxton). I just don't like playing Bolomboy at the center spot. :twocents:
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oldrunner said:
Both Hill and J-Coston are good enough shooters and defenders to play the 3 spot for us. What is keeping them from doing that is ball handling. Hill has improved his ball handling, but is not quite ready for the transition. Both of them may get a little time at 3 if the matchups warrant it. However, their primary position will be as a 4.

One of the reasons that Bolomboy is being moved to the 5 spot is the play of Hill. Hill finished the season strong at that position and has continued to get better. He is light years ahead of J-Coston. If it is a 3 man rotation in the post players, then it would be Hill, Bolomboy, and Hajek. If it is a four man rotation, then you can add J-Coston or Braxton into the mix.

The chance that Randy would change his ways and play more than an 8 or 9 man rotation is quite slim. The 9th and 10th players on the list will get more playing time in the preseason, but by the time conference play starts 8 guys will get 99% of the PT. :coffee:
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Old runner is exactly right on one thing, & that answers Sweber question. Bolomboy will play the 5 because he can, & Hill and Bolomboy need to be on the floor together as opposed to splitting time like last year. Hill has learned the 4 for 2 plus years. Also if Golden is 2, then Gittens 3 naturally all considered it makes sense to keep Hill at 4, & bump bolomboy to 5 which he is more than capable. If this is the starting lineup, and end of game lineup we will win the fcs title and the World Cup. Somebody call Joe Stand & have him add Joker to the jukebox.
 
Sure... "In my opinion."

Heavily influenced opinion, but my opinion.

I would love to see Hill play at the 3 spot this year, It just is not going to happen. At least not on a regular basis. I would also love to see more than one of our freshmen break into the rotation. That is not likely to happen either.

We have dodged a bullet on injuries so far, and lets hope that continues. If we have any injuries, it could really shake things up.
 
If you think about it in terms of what we must do to win in the BSC, then it makes perfect sense to build a line up like we have. Everyone in our league knows that they can not hang with us man to man. Consequently, we see a ton of zone defenses. There are ways to beat a zone. You can shoot over it, You can lob over it, or you can penetrate it. If you have 4 or 5 outside shooters on the floor it makes it hard for a zone to cover. If you have leapers, you can get a few lobs in. If you have quick, athletic ball handlers, you can penetrate it. If we can force teams out of their zones, then we can exploit mismatches. :twocents:
 
WeberSki said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Why do some of you feel that Bolomboy will play the 5? Just wondering. Speculation, or has Rahe said something? Personally, I have no idea who will start, but without knowing much about the new guys, I like this lineup: Senglin, Gittens, Hill, Bolomboy, Hajek (or Braxton). I just don't like playing Bolomboy at the center spot. :twocents:
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oldrunner said:
Both Hill and J-Coston are good enough shooters and defenders to play the 3 spot for us. What is keeping them from doing that is ball handling. Hill has improved his ball handling, but is not quite ready for the transition. Both of them may get a little time at 3 if the matchups warrant it. However, their primary position will be as a 4.

One of the reasons that Bolomboy is being moved to the 5 spot is the play of Hill. Hill finished the season strong at that position and has continued to get better. He is light years ahead of J-Coston. If it is a 3 man rotation in the post players, then it would be Hill, Bolomboy, and Hajek. If it is a four man rotation, then you can add J-Coston or Braxton into the mix.

The chance that Randy would change his ways and play more than an 8 or 9 man rotation is quite slim. The 9th and 10th players on the list will get more playing time in the preseason, but by the time conference play starts 8 guys will get 99% of the PT. :coffee:
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Old runner is exactly right on one thing, & that answers Sweber question. Bolomboy will play the 5 because he can, & Hill and Bolomboy need to be on the floor together as opposed to splitting time like last year. Hill has learned the 4 for 2 plus years. Also if Golden is 2, then Gittens 3 naturally all considered it makes sense to keep Hill at 4, & bump bolomboy to 5 which he is more than capable. If this is the starting lineup, and end of game lineup we will win the fcs title and the World Cup. Somebody call Joe Stand & have him add Joker to the jukebox.
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Does it absolutely have to be discussed in terms of 4 and 5? Is it not within the realm of possibility that Rahe alters the system to the players-- a novel concept, I know. Couldn't Rahe mix a two PF system into the mix and make all the Joel at 4 or 5 more of a moot point?
 
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