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Time for Changes

josephpoint said:
tired too.

agree with a change is in need.

my comment was not about a change.

I'm chillaxed here.

My first comment ever calling someone out and I get a chill out. Wow.

I'm on the same page as u.
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Sorry, directed at OSH.
 
OldSchoolHornet said:
Just when I was starting to think you were a Wanless shill, it turns out you're just another guy who doesn't know what he doesn't know. I'm sure eventually someone will get you up to speed. Until then, enjoy your blissful ignorance and keep working hard at pretending you actually have an informed opinion.

Feel free to have the last word.
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Shill? Please. I’ve questioned these guys you so vehemently hate, I just don’t let a biased view distract from the fact that progress and accomplishments have been made while both of those guys have been here. It’s obvious you don’t want to acknowledge that and that’s your prerogative. As far as being informed, I’m as informed as the numbers allow me to be.

See you in the next hate-fest thread.
 
GoldenEagleHornet said:
So what I'm getting is, no matter what we are stuck with Marshall for at least another season.

:facepalm: :censored: :crybaby:
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Have yet to see any post stating when his contract is up. Safe to say we are stuck with him until then.
 
GCM...I knew that was for me and I had it coming. My bad.

Some of you are going to be really pissed but you can expect to hear about a multi-year extension. Wanless has been waiting for chance to announce it but the timing has obviously not been good.The only thing that might stop it is an 0-2 finish. A win over PSU could trigger it...and a win over Davis definitely will regardless of the PSU outcome. No raise...but a 3-5 year extension.

Via con dios...I'm out.
 
GoldenEagleHornet said:
So what I'm getting is, no matter what we are stuck with Marshall for at least another season.

:facepalm: :censored: :crybaby:
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I gotta get my brain checked out. I just saw that We Are Marshall thread title (I think it was over at CS.com, but it could have been here) and thought for just a second that you were speaking of Marshall U. Then my brain came back to the reality of our end-of-the-potential coaching situation.

What a dumb@$$ I am....

:ohno:
 
Interesting to see what happens here. Anyone thinking Sperbeck should keep his job after the Causeway no-show is delusional. Hopefully he is shown the door, if he isn't then there really isn't a reason to keep watching this train wreck.
 
I don't think it's all about wins and losses regarding the Administration keeping Sperbeck and, for that matter, Katz. I think one of the big reasons these two coaches are getting the benefit of the doubt is because they've successfully kept the Academic Progress Rates and Graduation Success Rates up and thus, Sac State out of being embarrassed again in the media for low academic scores by its student-athletes, which occurred before they got hired. Since Sac State isn't a sports mecca and a winning tradition has never been established, there isn't alumni/community pressure to field top tier teams, therefore, the Admin can live with .500 teams; that's what I think.
 
The Green Hornet said:
I don't think it's all about wins and losses regarding the Administration keeping Sperbeck and, for that matter, Katz. I think one of the big reasons these two coaches are getting the benefit of the doubt is because they've successfully kept the Academic Progress Rates and Graduation Success Rates up and thus, Sac State out of being embarrassed again in the media for low academic scores by its student-athletes, which occurred before they got hired. Since Sac State isn't a sports mecca and a winning tradition has never been established, there isn't alumni/community pressure to field top tier teams, therefore, the Admin can live with .500 teams; that's what I think.
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Good point
 
Bingo, Green Hornet. In many ways, Sac State has the luxury of being able to balance academic and athletic standards. Look at the train wreck that is CAL - insanely low graduation rates for the FB and BB programs, huge debt and a football team that is one of the worst teams in the FBS. It is not in CAL's DNA to field a top-level FB program nor is it in Sac State's.

There is a price to pay for success on the football field. However as an Alumnus of Sac State, hearing that the team "quit" yesterday is disturbing. There is another "Ron Gould" out there waiting for a chance to coach at Sac State.
 
SD,

Could you post Wanless' and Gonzo's email address so "concerned alumni" might express their thoughts regarding the direction of this program?
 
First, the head coach has had plenty of time to turn the program around.
He came into the program and began firing assistant coaches, forgetting that the new guy may help or hurt the program. There has been quite a turn over in assistant coaches. Is the head coach a hard guy to work with?
I think his contract is up for renewal this year.
As for a replacement, go with a guy with a winning record as a head coach. Has anyone looked at the record of the head coach a Carroll college. He has won more national title and conference titles then anyone I know of. Also the guy at Southern Oregon done a great job there.
Look only for head coaches that have been winners at four year schools and forget the rest.
Our talent level has been among the best in the conference.
class 63
 
The Green Hornet said:
I don't think it's all about wins and losses regarding the Administration keeping Sperbeck and, for that matter, Katz. I think one of the big reasons these two coaches are getting the benefit of the doubt is because they've successfully kept the Academic Progress Rates and Graduation Success Rates up and thus, Sac State out of being embarrassed again in the media for low academic scores by its student-athletes, which occurred before they got hired. Since Sac State isn't a sports mecca and a winning tradition has never been established, there isn't alumni/community pressure to field top tier teams, therefore, the Admin can live with .500 teams; that's what I think.
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Good points. My theory on the Katz extension is Wanless just doesn't want to bother finding a new coach until the event center is up. If all stays on schedule, Katz gets 2 seasons in the new digs as a kick back/reward for getting the off the court issues together (regardless of the high roster turnover and poor on the court product) and maybe another extension if he can utilize the new facilities to bring in better recruits and get this program competitive with the top of the BSC.
 
mark dyba said:
First, the head coach has had plenty of time to turn the program around.
He came into the program and began firing assistant coaches, forgetting that the new guy may help or hurt the program. There has been quite a turn over in assistant coaches. Is the head coach a hard guy to work with?
I think his contract is up for renewal this year.
As for a replacement, go with a guy with a winning record as a head coach. Has anyone looked at the record of the head coach a Carroll college. He has won more national title and conference titles then anyone I know of. Also the guy at Southern Oregon done a great job there.
Look only for head coaches that have been winners at four year schools and forget the rest.
Our talent level has been among the best in the conference.
class 63
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Good points. The talent has been there, the coaching has not.
 
Again, take it with a grain of salt, but Otis Amey is BLASTING Sperbeck on Facebook, saying players hated playing for him

https://www.facebook.com/foa10?fref=ts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
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