sammamisheag
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Wonder if there's been a rift with coaches post-playoffs
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Vernon Adams
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ewusigep252
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The individual making the UW comment won't elaborate further but states he'd be shocked if VA doesn't end up at UO. Take it all for what you will.
marceagfan5
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If Adams is looking at UW too i'd pretty much think that he's not coming back...
I hope Adams makes a good choice and does well wherever he ends up, but it sure seems as if there is an issue in house.
I'm guessing all the schools would like to know by tomorrow one way or the other so they can move on with recruiting, will be interesting to see if we hear anything...
As for those that think VA going to Oregon is good for EWU, I wouldn't be so sure. Kupp could do it next year, and i'm not sure how great of publicity it really will be for EWU. If VA is drafted, he'll go to the NFL from the University of Oregon, EWU will be an afterthought. Russell Wilson spent most his time at NC State but people really know him from Wisconsin in college. There would be an even larger gap with VA and EWU/OREGON...
I hope Adams makes a good choice and does well wherever he ends up, but it sure seems as if there is an issue in house.
I'm guessing all the schools would like to know by tomorrow one way or the other so they can move on with recruiting, will be interesting to see if we hear anything...
As for those that think VA going to Oregon is good for EWU, I wouldn't be so sure. Kupp could do it next year, and i'm not sure how great of publicity it really will be for EWU. If VA is drafted, he'll go to the NFL from the University of Oregon, EWU will be an afterthought. Russell Wilson spent most his time at NC State but people really know him from Wisconsin in college. There would be an even larger gap with VA and EWU/OREGON...
ewusigep252
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Funny that you mention Russell Wilson because word now is that VA has reached out to him for advice in regards to his decision. What better guidance to seek than from someone that was in his shoes not too long ago.
EWURanger said:
This...
EWU98 said:
And this...
I've pretty much given up any hope on him coming back...More likely he is debating on whether to go to Oregon or somewhere else. EWU is most likely an afterthough at this point, which is too bad. I feel like the people that have been so loyal to him the past 4 years deserve better, but what do I know...
GROUND&POUND
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EWURanger said:
You shouldn't doubt your natural instinct about what is the right thing to do here. You are 100% correct. Part of the problem with society nowadays is this type of situation IMO.
Being a loyal fan or a true friend to VA doesn't require us to pat him on the back and wish him well when it's pretty clear it is a dangerous path for him and hurts EWU.
This "move" has a lot of the grass is greener ring to it and the grass is not greener over at Oregon. For every good thing that can come of it there are multiple pitfalls that could really hurt him. He has a great chance to be the best player on the best team at Eastern.
ewusigep252
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From what this guy has said and some on here have confirmed, Oregon isn't going to just hand the job over to VA. This must be why all of a sudden UW is popping up on the radar. Makes you wonder who, if anyone, he's talked to on their end.
marceagfan5
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Maybe's he's taking his talents to South Beach, or worse yet, the Griz....
Would LOVE to see him back at EWU and will root for him wherever he ends up, nothing we can do about it now...
Would LOVE to see him back at EWU and will root for him wherever he ends up, nothing we can do about it now...
GROUND&POUND said:
:nod:
If there is a rift between VA and the coaching staff, I'm guessing it's because they didn't tell him what he wanted to hear.
A good employer (to use an analogy, I know this isn't exactly an employment relationship) but a good employer who is honest about his organization's circumstances and fair to his employee's future doesn't covet them. He provides them the best advice he can. If the best move for them is to take a better position than a right minded employer, harbors no regrets, is happy for the employee, and wishes them nothing but the best.
I know that Beau and Co. are exactly like this. Just like with a player leaving early, they are going to help him with the decision and provide their best incite. They are not the ultimate experts, but neither is Oregon or for that matter, or an NFL agent. If they feel he has a solid chance to better his situation by moving on, they will tell him this and facilitate the move. These coaches care about student placement like any good professor would. It's part of their job and one of their recruiting selling points.
If they feel that there's a ton of risk involved including numerous scenarios that have already been mentioned like durability, running a true zone read where he's expected to carry more, the competition in camp he will be facing, and the small window to learn it, I'd expect them to be equally as honest.
Like everything else, this is pure speculation, but I have reason to trust this coaching staff, and hopefully Vernon does too.
Tomorrow is just as, if not more important than all of this…at least for those of us in the long game. :thumb:
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It does seem strange that someone would say "it's down to two," meaning UW and Oregon. It sounds as though Eastern is absolutely not part of the equation. I hope it didn't get nasty when Vernon secured his release, but this sort of leads me to believe that it did. At the very least, Vernon sure isn't giving Eastern any love when it comes to making these comments.
Frankly, if I were Baldwin or Best and he dropped that on me, I'd be damn upset. These guys invested a lot in him. Yes, VA proved worth the investment by playing well, but that's a big slap in the face to up and leave as a senior. I hope he comes back and everyone makes amends, but as I said before, if he decides to leave, I'd tell him not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out.
Frankly, if I were Baldwin or Best and he dropped that on me, I'd be damn upset. These guys invested a lot in him. Yes, VA proved worth the investment by playing well, but that's a big slap in the face to up and leave as a senior. I hope he comes back and everyone makes amends, but as I said before, if he decides to leave, I'd tell him not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out.
ewusigep252
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FormerEag said:
I am thinking that's most likely the case, but just throwing this out for the hell of it.
Time to put this Vernon Adams thing to rest. Hopefully EWU doesn't have to pay for his last quarter of school. Looking forward to the Hennessey vs West competition this Spring. I've watched a lot of HS football over the years and Hennessey was one of the best I have seen but West does have some good qualities. Plus West was awarded a full scholarship so the coaches have a lot of confidence in him.
ewusigep252 said:FormerEag said:
I am thinking that's most likely the case, but just throwing this out for the hell of it.
Wow, is this our own version of "The Decision?" LeBron even realized this wasn't such a great idea.
I don't believe Vernon owes me or any other EWU fan crap, but he owes his teammates and coaches his love and respect. I just hope Vernon isn't crapping on all the guys in the lockeroom that were his family. Maybe they are all good, but it seems like that would be hard to believe.
GROUND&POUND
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LDopaPDX said:
The Coaching community is a small and close one. Don't think for one second that all this business isn't looked at in a negative way in that community, including on potential draft boards. Not by all mind you, but definitely by some.
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