Coach Bone

[ManOfVision]

I pray that Coach Bone doesn't leave but here are some possible replacements if he does...

Jim Shaw, assistant coach at UW. Was a candidate for the PSU job when Bone was hired. Knows the Northwest. Would be a great replacement for Bone.
http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/shaw_jim00.html

Larry Krystkowiak, unemployed: One-time head coach of Milwaukee Bucks and University of Montana, helped lead the Griz to NCAA first-round upset of Nevada in 2006. If the Cougs were smart, they would hire this guy. Proven head coach plus it would really tick off the Griz if he went to PSU.

Ray Giacoletti, asst at Gonzaga and former head coach at EWU. Took EWU to NCAA. http://www.gozags.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/giacoletti_ray00.html

I like the way you're thinking, and here are my thoughts:

Shaw - Solid hire. Couldn't complain about this at all.

Larry K. - I don't think he'd take the PSU job given our facilities and salary range.

Giacoletti - Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he totally botch the Utah job? I know he was run out of Utah pretty quickly with some sort of drama. This may not be a knock on him from PSU's standpoint, since Utah's in a whole 'nother league and Ray does offer some nice NW ties.

 

[VikThunder1]

Ray Giacoletti, asst at Gonzaga and former head coach at EWU. Took EWU to NCAA. http://www.gozags.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/giacoletti_ray00.html

I like the way you're thinking, and here are my thoughts:

Shaw - Solid hire. Couldn't complain about this at all.

Larry K. - I don't think he'd take the PSU job given our facilities and salary range.

Giacoletti - Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he totally botch the Utah job? I know he was run out of Utah pretty quickly with some sort of drama. This may not be a knock on him from PSU's standpoint, since Utah's in a whole 'nother league and Ray does offer some nice NW ties.

Giacoletti was run out of Utah but they have crazy expectations there. He had a 70% winning record at EWU.

From Giacoletti's bio:

Giacoletti led the 2005 Utes to a 29-6 record, tying the third-most wins in a season in school history. He also had the best record among NCAA Division I first-year head coaches. Utah claimed the Mountain West Conference regular-season championship outright and advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. As a result, Giacoletti was named the NABC District 13, USBWA District 8, and Mountain West Conference Coach of the Year. Sophomore center Andrew Bogut became Utah's inaugural consensus national Player of the Year, winning the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith, National Association of Basketball Coaches and Associated Press Player of the Year honors.

After starting out 5-3, the Utes reeled off 18 consecutive wins to tie the second-longest winning streak in school history. Utah also achieved two other milestones by recording the 10th 25-win season in school annals and winning its 11th regular-season conference championship in the last 15 years to continue the nation's best run over that period. The Runnin' Utes won the MWC title with the best record in the league's six-year history at 13-1.

Giacoletti then directed the Utes to the championship game of the MWC Tournament. It marked the fifth straight season that Giacoletti led his team (Utah or EWU) to the conference tournament title game. He then became the first rookie coach to lead Utah to the NCAA Tournament. The sixth-seeded Utes defeated UTEP (60-54) and third-seeded Oklahoma (67-58) to advance to the program's first NCAA Sweet 16 appearance since 1998. Utah fell to Kentucky 62-52 in the Austin Regional semifinals.

After cracking the Top 25 on Jan. 24, Utah was ranked the last nine weeks of the season and finished No. 14 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and No. 18 in the Associated Press poll.

Giacoletti went 54-40 in his three years at Utah.

 

[VikThunder1]

You're also probably right about Larry K. but it would be worth a go. Who would have that that Glanville would take the PSU job or that Erickson would take the OSU job. Always worth a try. Plus he would have made a ton in the NBA so he might not be so strapped for cash.

 

[ManOfVision]

You're also probably right about Larry K. but it would be worth a go. Who would have that that Glanville would take the PSU job or that Erickson would take the OSU job. Always worth a try. Plus he would have made a ton in the NBA so he might not be so strapped for cash.

You make good points about JG and Erickson.

I still think Cameron Dollar should be in the discussion.

 

[weberwildcat2]

Ray Giacoletti, asst at Gonzaga and former head coach at EWU. Took EWU to NCAA. http://www.gozags.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/giacoletti_ray00.html

I like the way you're thinking, and here are my thoughts:

Shaw - Solid hire. Couldn't complain about this at all.

Larry K. - I don't think he'd take the PSU job given our facilities and salary range.

Giacoletti - Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he totally botch the Utah job? I know he was run out of Utah pretty quickly with some sort of drama. This may not be a knock on him from PSU's standpoint, since Utah's in a whole 'nother league and Ray does offer some nice NW ties.

Giacoletti was run out of Utah but they have crazy expectations there. He had a 70% winning record at EWU.

From Giacoletti's bio:

Giacoletti led the 2005 Utes to a 29-6 record, tying the third-most wins in a season in school history. He also had the best record among NCAA Division I first-year head coaches. Utah claimed the Mountain West Conference regular-season championship outright and advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. As a result, Giacoletti was named the NABC District 13, USBWA District 8, and Mountain West Conference Coach of the Year. Sophomore center Andrew Bogut became Utah's inaugural consensus national Player of the Year, winning the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith, National Association of Basketball Coaches and Associated Press Player of the Year honors.

After starting out 5-3, the Utes reeled off 18 consecutive wins to tie the second-longest winning streak in school history. Utah also achieved two other milestones by recording the 10th 25-win season in school annals and winning its 11th regular-season conference championship in the last 15 years to continue the nation's best run over that period. The Runnin' Utes won the MWC title with the best record in the league's six-year history at 13-1.

Giacoletti then directed the Utes to the championship game of the MWC Tournament. It marked the fifth straight season that Giacoletti led his team (Utah or EWU) to the conference tournament title game. He then became the first rookie coach to lead Utah to the NCAA Tournament. The sixth-seeded Utes defeated UTEP (60-54) and third-seeded Oklahoma (67-58) to advance to the program's first NCAA Sweet 16 appearance since 1998. Utah fell to Kentucky 62-52 in the Austin Regional semifinals.

After cracking the Top 25 on Jan. 24, Utah was ranked the last nine weeks of the season and finished No. 14 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and No. 18 in the Associated Press poll.

Giacoletti went 54-40 in his three years at Utah.

What u need to know about Ray Giacoletti:


yes utah has way high expectations, which i think is lame, but they are the 10th winningest program in NCAA DI history with 1 national title though it was 1944 and a final four win and national title game loss in 1998.

Giacoletti was a good guy and utah doesnt like hiring quality people for the job, needs to be a jerk! lol

At EWU he is the best coach they've ever had, he got them to 4 STRAIGHT BIG SKY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES.

2001 lost title to Northridge
2002 lost title to UM
2003 lost title to WSU
2004 won at home, only yr they hosted of the 4 straight.


Odds are he can make more $$ as an assistant at GU, but he is from the 'Sky and knows it, would be cool to see him come back. I think he'd be one of the top 2-3 coaches in our league every year. I believe he made about $500,000 a yr at Utah. Those 2 bad yrs he had was with young teams and I think they just assumed the team he had ranked that made the sweet 16 was just Majerus' players.

PSU would be in great hands if that happened. Thats who I'd want, it would kinda be an upgrade but I guess that is disrespecting Bone and he's only been at PSU for 4 years. I believe winning at PSU is a lot tougher than winning at EWU.

I think Shroyer and Bone have some serious skills and have started something great for PSU and the Big Sky. Now we just need to get your in-state schools to stop being wankors and actually play you!

Which leads to...

Steps to getting the new arena

1. Winning the Big Sky
2. Getting to the NCAA Tourney
3. Getting the arena packed on a weekly basis
4. Get this economy tourned around!!! aka $$
5. Playing the Ducks and Beavers yearly
6. Beating the Ducks and Beavers (though MSU proved beating the Beavers wasn't too tough)
7. Step 6 will really help step 3.

At WSU when we get in-state home wins besides SUU it has an impact on the game itself and other home games to follow.

 

[weberwildcat2]

Overall I hope Bone stays...also hoping Rahe doesn't leave anytime soon too. But if you had a chance at Ray Giacoletti that would be pretty cool. Sucks thinking about a great coach taking off.

WSU coaching history:
1963-1968 Dick Motta 98-29 77% - left for bigger n better things
1969-1971Phil Johnson 68-16 84% - left for bigger n better things
1972-1975 Gene Visscher 63-45 58% - not sure, probably left for bigger/better
1976-1985 Neil McCarthy 200-98 67% - left for bigger n better things (legend at weber and new mex st)
1986-1988 Larry Farmer 34-54 39% - sucked n got the boot
1989-1991 Denny Huston 43-42 51% - sucked n got the boot
1992-1999 Ron Abegglen 157-83 65% - off the court issues, had to go, too bad, probably would a been the legend of legends! still a legend at wsu, beat North Carolina his last year in the tourney. Might still be coaching us to this day...to bad.

2000-2006 Joe Cravens 116-88 57% - didn't suck but got the boot, similar to Utah, expectations for program too high. He had 2 consecutive losing seasons and a WSU coach has never kept the job for doig this, that and we had been to 24 straight big sky tourneys till his last year, oh and we had our first ever and only home losses to both PSU and Sac that year (2006) - bet you remember that one!

2007-** Randy Rahe 57-36 61% - hoping he retires at weber in 10-20 yrs!

Blue: only coaches to not win at least 1 big sky title.

 

[ManOfVision]

At least Bone would be leaving for a head gig at a Pac-10 program, unlike Schroyer who left for an asst. gig at a WAC school.

Let's not forget that this would be the first big hire for our AD. I'm hoping he doesn't revert to his SoCal roots and bring in a coach with no ties to NW recruiting.

 

[mvem]

Larry Krystkowiak, unemployed: One-time head coach of Milwaukee Bucks and University of Montana, helped lead the Griz to NCAA first-round upset of Nevada in 2006. If the Cougs were smart, they would hire this guy. Proven head coach plus it would really tick off the Griz if he went to PSU.

You don't honestly think Krystkowiak would coach at any other Big Sky school other than his alma mater, do you? He turned down Pepperdine's offer to make 3 times his salary and instead stayed at UM (for another 3 months, anyway), so I'm pretty sure the relatively small public school salaries of other BSC schools are out of the question. It also seems like he's not going anywhere unless it's back in the NBA or possibly a major college gig. I know he strongly prefers the pros over college and doesn't really like the whole recruiting thing.

 

[weberwildcat2]

How much does Bone make? Anyone know? How much do all the big sky coaches make?

 

[pdxfan]

Bone reportedly signed his long-term contract for $150,000/year with no doubt good fringe benefits. I have no idea what other Big Sky coaches make, but probably in that range.

 

[dystopiamembrane]

Giacoletti went 54-40 in his three years at Utah.

Bogut carried him in the first season and 1/2.
His second full season was abysmal, 14-15.
He was not good.
a Utah fan.


Also, screw Krystkowiak...once a Griz there's something wrong with you.

 

[VikThunder1]

How much does Bone make? Anyone know? How much do all the big sky coaches make?

Actually I think it was more like $160K per year. He recently signed so it should be easy to look up. I am surprised Randy Rahe isn't getting any looks this year. I know people were looking at him after his first year but haven't heard anything lately.

 

[martymoose]

How much does Bone make? Anyone know? How much do all the big sky coaches make?

'base salary of $125,000 this season, with annual increases of $7,500 over the next four years.
The deal, finalized last month, includes an additional $2,500 each year for radio and TV, plus bonuses if the Vikings win 20 games, maintain an academic progress rate of 925 or higher, and reach either the NCAA Tournament or the National Invitation Tournaments. There's also a $50,000 buyout clause if Bone wants to leave for a better job.'

 

[VikThunder1]

Marty's got the facts. Guess I was a little off.

Some people are mentioning Cameron Dollar for consideration...

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/dollar_cameron00.html

He was a finalist for the Sac State job. Check out his salary....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2004314215_umen29.html?syndication=rss

Here's more of the media's campaign to get WSU to steal Bone away...

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/reader_feedback/public/display.php?source_name=mbase&source_id=2008957952

 

[dystopiamembrane]

just to have the chance to build what he did at Portland State -- in a major conference with a major recruiting budget...
It'll be tougher. He won't be able to make use of the transfers he did at PSU, but he's a good game coach.

What does Oldvanport mean by this?

 

[VikThunder1]

just to have the chance to build what he did at Portland State -- in a major conference with a major recruiting budget...
It'll be tougher. He won't be able to make use of the transfers he did at PSU, but he's a good game coach.

What does Oldvanport mean by this?

I'd take that to mean that PSU was able to garner a lot of transfers from other DI schools like Jeremiah Dominquez, Phil Nelson, Dominic Waters, etc. Those same types of players are unwilling, unlikely or would be unable to transfer to a Pac-10 school like WSU.

I don't take it to mean that Bone would take PSU players with him to WSU if that's what is bothering you.

 

[weberwildcat2]

How much does Bone make? Anyone know? How much do all the big sky coaches make?

'base salary of $125,000 this season, with annual increases of $7,500 over the next four years.
The deal, finalized last month, includes an additional $2,500 each year for radio and TV, plus bonuses if the Vikings win 20 games, maintain an academic progress rate of 925 or higher, and reach either the NCAA Tournament or the National Invitation Tournaments. There's also a $50,000 buyout clause if Bone wants to leave for a better job.'

I think Rahe might be the highest paid big sky coach unless its Tinkle since UM's football coach makes the most of the big sky. He can make I belive around 300,000 with all his bonuses if they were to win a national title. pretty crazy u could make 300 K in FCS. I think WSU's Mac sadly might be the lowest paid Big sky coach for football.

Rahe is the 7th highest paid employee at WSU, Mac is 35th.

 

[weberwildcat2]

Any update about Bone yet?

 

[dystopiamembrane]

I'd take that to mean that PSU was able to garner a lot of transfers from other DI schools like Jeremiah Dominquez, Phil Nelson, Dominic Waters, etc. Those same types of players are unwilling, unlikely or would be unable to transfer to a Pac-10 school like WSU.

Thanks. I understand. WSU does pick up JC transfers though, right? Those folks can play right away.
It is an interesting experience that we have had the last few years with the D-1 transfers. Never really thought about it being odd until this conversation.

 

[martymoose]

Any update about Bone yet?

Interview is this weekend.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2008969475_bennett02.html