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Green Laser said:
If he has potential why did Fresno pass on him? He is a Fresno Alum has a long history coaching there and they got a chance to see what he could do as interim head coach.
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I think FSU made long term HC move w assistant from USC. That guy had a solid background and bright access to southern cal talent pool too.

Skipper for us could probably fill the gap to get us to FBS and bring his Fresno State loyal players?

I feel we need a HC to get us players and .700 or better record for playoff bid and solid program for FBS addition
 
Green Laser said:
If he has potential why did Fresno pass on him? He is a Fresno Alum has a long history coaching there and they got a chance to see what he could do as interim head coach.
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Probably for the same reason folks wanted to run Andy out of town after only 2 years.
 
oldrunner said:
I have a hard time seeing how the hiring of a new football coach has anything to do with Sac trying to move to the big time in athletics. I know that it got a lot of fans excited, but that movement was dead from the beggining. Looks to me like it is just a lot of egg on your face and it may actually have set you back even further. I like Sacramento and feel the city and school have great potential, but there are many smaller steps that must be taken before you get anywhere close to that potential. I'm sorry it that hurts your ears.
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Because the timing of an FBS move impacts the trajectory of this program which the next HC will have a big part in if we get a ticket to the show.

The FBS move is all about our current President seizing on an opportunity to raise the profile of not only Hornet athletics but the university as a whole. Whether it pans out or not remains to be seen, but thinking Sac State has no shot at FBS given the metrics means you, and anyone with that mindset, has absolutely no pulse on the situation.
 
BuckeyeHornetFan said:
Jeezus, IDK why you remain so stubborn in admitting the obvious!

Held the program together? What, you mean for ONE freaking season? What an accomplishment!

It’s been explained to you exhaustively so many times now how a single winning season and playoff win with largely the same roster and system his predecessor put in place is NOT an accomplishment to hang your hat on.

Countless examples can and have been provided to you of coaches taking over ready-made programs and having short term success only for it to wear out quickly. That is EXACTLY what happened here at Sac State.

Thompson was never HC material, which is why he was an assistant for so damned long before ever setting foot on campus. And he further proved his inability to be the head guy by destroying what Taylor built over 4 years by only his 2nd season as the HC.

Furthermore, you tout the recruiting classes but if they are as great as you believe — then it further demonstrates his lack of competency as the HC as all he could muster with that talent was 3-9!

How you can possibly defend that record, and losing to cellar dwelling conference foes, continues to escape me.

If any of the things you are throwing against the wall were true — 3-9 does not happen. Period.

The guy inherited a ready-made program and only managed ONE good season out of it. ONE.

And even that was a bit of a fortunate postseason birth as the Hornets were a controversial selection in 2023, largely getting in based upon their recent ascension and success.

You want to give Thompson all this undue credit for an 8-5 and 4-4 season, which was really a mediocre season compared to 2019-2022, yet give him no credit or grief for 3-9 and such an quick and epic collapse.

When North Dakota State transitioned their program from Craig Bohl to Chris Klieman to Matt Entz — did any of those coaches see a dramatic turnaround for the worse after their first season? The worst season any of those subsequent coaches had was 7-3. Because each of those coaches were HC material capable of continuing what was built up before them.

I can cite many examples just like the above. I can also cite many examples of unqualified coaches ruining what was built before them within a couple seasons. And I have already done so.

Facts are facts. Where this program has devolved from in only 18 months is a direct reflection of Thompson’s ineptitude and inability to be a head coach.

Arguing otherwise is an exercise in futility. The deck is completely stacked against you.
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I'll just respond with this twitter thread as it's fairly relevant to all your drivel:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865194261500604761
 

Mack Leftwich, Texas State​

Just 29, the former UTEP QB is one of the hottest young coaches in the game. Leftwich’s offenses at FCS Incarnate Word and last season at Texas State have been prolific. JMU transfer QB Jordan McCloud should have a huge season for the Bobcats.

We should interview this guy as well
 
oldrunner said:
I have a hard time seeing how the hiring of a new football coach has anything to do with Sac trying to move to the big time in athletics. I know that it got a lot of fans excited, but that movement was dead from the beggining. Looks to me like it is just a lot of egg on your face and it may actually have set you back even further. I like Sacramento and feel the city and school have great potential, but there are many smaller steps that must be taken before you get anywhere close to that potential. I'm sorry it that hurts your ears.
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Not just who Sac State hires, but even who they interview may give an indication of where candidates and Orr believe the program will be in a couple of years.

If it's true Orr will interview Skipper and if any other FBS level coaches sit down for an interview, then the MWC or PAC are still on the table for us.
 
Wonder if ORR has a larger budget for this hire wanting to transition to FBS.

Wonder if Jason Eck or Brent Vigen or Jay Hill former Weber st now FBS coordinator are being contacted.

Do we have any big Sky Conf. rules where we have to request permission to inquire if they would like to interview or if interested?
 
HornetFootballFan said:

Mack Leftwich, Texas State​

Just 29, the former UTEP QB is one of the hottest young coaches in the game. Leftwich’s offenses at FCS Incarnate Word and last season at Texas State have been prolific. JMU transfer QB Jordan McCloud should have a huge season for the Bobcats.

We should interview this guy as well
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He was on my list, but accepted the OC at Texas Tech, which is probably $1M a year gig.
 
Kadeezy said:
He was on my list, but accepted the OC at Texas Tech, which is probably $1M a year gig.
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Incarnate Word has consistently found good HC’s and reloaded without a down season.

At this point I guess if we get 2 good seasons w some 9-3 or 10-2 seasons get us into FBS I’d feel appreciative.

Then we would have more money in budget to retain a higher caliber HC to add stability.

Transfer portal and Freshman player development is a blend that modern era coaches need to be good at to compete.
 
Hornet25 said:
Not just who Sac State hires, but even who they interview may give an indication of where candidates and Orr believe the program will be in a couple of years.

If it's true Orr will interview Skipper and if any other FBS level coaches sit down for an interview, then the MWC or PAC are still on the table for us.
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I suspect someone may leak out a few FBS coordinator names interviewing. That will show we are still planning up not down. Also sends a message to portal regarding direction. I still remember a training class for up and comers years ago at a former employer, “Everything you say and do sends a message. Think wisely about how you act”. Very applicable in the coaching carousel today.

Personally, I want a very high level of detail and preparation in our next HC. Years ago my dad lived outside of Fargo, and had a massive heart attack. Spent a lot of time at the hospital and talked to someone who had played there. Recruiting on a whole different level, coaches watch their film and look for what their opponent does, if they can’t articulate the little details of their opponent tells, the recruit won’t fit. Can’t teach attention to details if cannot articulate what they were seeing from their opponent probably not for them. Much better than I don’t know what else we can do.
 
I am starting to believe that I like the idea of Angus as next coach because he’s a great recruiter, knows the area high school coaches from always recruiting this area. The issue is who would be D Cordinator, what happens with rest of staff. If a great Defensive minded coach becomes HC, then I’d expect the offense staff to mostly stay.
 
Hornet99 said:
I am starting to believe that I like the idea of Angus as next coach because he’s a great recruiter, knows the area high school coaches from always recruiting this area. The issue is who would be D Cordinator, what happens with rest of staff. If a great Defensive minded coach becomes HC, then I’d expect the offense staff to mostly stay.
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Maybe Angus as DC?
 
I've read many pieces just like that one over the years. Mostly they are just speculation and sometimes a total smoke screen. Here is the rub on the situation. Almost all OCs, DC, and AHCs at the FBS level would have to take a pay cut to become the HC at Sac St. Those positions, at that level, are getting 2X to 5X what any BSC team is paying their HC. That leaves the potential pool of applicants to include FCS and lower HCs or coordinators. It's more likely that you will end up with someone you have never heard of unless you hire from within. Hiring a new coach is as much of a crapshoot as recruiting a QB. Fans don't usually look at the realities of these situations.
 
oldrunner said:
I've read many pieces just like that one over the years. Mostly they are just speculation and sometimes a total smoke screen. Here is the rub on the situation. Almost all OCs, DC, and AHCs at the FBS level would have to take a pay cut to become the HC at Sac St. Those positions, at that level, are getting 2X to 5X what any BSC team is paying their HC. That leaves the potential pool of applicants to include FCS and lower HCs or coordinators. It's more likely that you will end up with someone you have never heard of unless you hire from within. Hiring a new coach is as much of a crapshoot as recruiting a QB. Fans don't usually look at the realities of these situations.
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Many FBS coordinators want and need HC experience and it’s not always available at the FBS level so they take an FCS Head Coach role.

If they take team to the FCS Playoffs & get a Win or Two they are right back near the $500K range.

I think we have some great FCS coaches in the big Sky conf. Hopefully in next few weeks we will have some answers.
 
oldrunner said:
I've read many pieces just like that one over the years. Mostly they are just speculation and sometimes a total smoke screen. Here is the rub on the situation. Almost all OCs, DC, and AHCs at the FBS level would have to take a pay cut to become the HC at Sac St. Those positions, at that level, are getting 2X to 5X what any BSC team is paying their HC. That leaves the potential pool of applicants to include FCS and lower HCs or coordinators. It's more likely that you will end up with someone you have never heard of unless you hire from within. Hiring a new coach is as much of a crapshoot as recruiting a QB. Fans don't usually look at the realities of these situations.
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You're not wrong if Sac State stays in the BSC. It may even be more likely than not that Sac State stays in the Big Sky. However, the coaching candidates that come in will bring big clues on that front, unless they hire internally.

With that being said, even the media plays the "wish list" game until there is something solid to report.
 
oldrunner said:
I've read many pieces just like that one over the years. Mostly they are just speculation and sometimes a total smoke screen. Here is the rub on the situation. Almost all OCs, DC, and AHCs at the FBS level would have to take a pay cut to become the HC at Sac St. Those positions, at that level, are getting 2X to 5X what any BSC team is paying their HC. That leaves the potential pool of applicants to include FCS and lower HCs or coordinators. It's more likely that you will end up with someone you have never heard of unless you hire from within. Hiring a new coach is as much of a crapshoot as recruiting a QB. Fans don't usually look at the realities of these situations.
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Thanks for your insights oldrunner. I think Sac State set a precedent when we hired a current OC from a Power 4 program (Utah) in 2019. Sac State coaches with base pay, incentives, etc. make more per year than any other FCS HC in the BSC (country?).

So, we're all hoping for a home run hire over here, that mirrors the strategies leveraged by the stadium goals, conference goals, etc.
 
I was checking out Eddie George’s Salary TSU.

Salaries have been increasing quickly. Said he makes $400K.

Then AI posted this in my search which probably added a bonus factor.

Eddie George, the head football coach at Tennessee State University, earns an annual salary of $468,700. George was hired in 2021 on a five-year deal. In November 2024, he was named the Big South/Ohio Valley Conference coach of the year
 
HornetFootballFan said:
I was checking out Eddie George’s Salary TSU.

Salaries have been increasing quickly. Said he makes $400K.

Then AI posted this in my search which probably added a bonus factor.

Eddie George, the head football coach at Tennessee State University, earns an annual salary of $468,700. George was hired in 2021 on a five-year deal. In November 2024, he was named the Big South/Ohio Valley Conference coach of the year
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This got me thinking, so I asked ChatGPT to identify potential coaching targets for Sacramento State, many were absurd, but here they are in order lol, with some outdated info:

Here are 15 realistic options to fill the vacant head football coach position at Sacramento State, considering experience in FCS football, familiarity with the Big Sky Conference, recruiting acumen, and potential fit for the program:

1. Troy Taylor (Former Head Coach, Sacramento State)
2. Jay Hill (Head Coach, Weber State)
3. Bobby Hauck (Head Coach, UNLV)
4. Danny White (Offensive Coordinator, Boise State)
5. Jason Jones (Defensive Coordinator, Montana)
6. Paul Wulff (Former Head Coach, Washington State)
7. Joe Glenn (Former Head Coach, Montana)
8. Craig Bohl (Head Coach, Wyoming)
9. Tim Walsh (Former Head Coach, Cal Poly)
10. Mike Neu (Head Coach, Ball State)
11. Marty Mornhinweg (Former NFL Offensive Coordinator)
12. Kyle Cummings (Defensive Coordinator, Northern Arizona)
13. Willie Simmons (Head Coach, Prairie View A&M)
14. Keith Heyward (Co-Defensive Coordinator, Oregon)
15. Justin Wilcox (Head Coach, California)
 
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