Vernon Adams

[ewueagle2010]

There are two ways this can make you feel about this and I tend to lean more towards VA dumped EWU for a flashier, richer program and shit on EWU in the process.

However with that said, I have a hard time saying I dislike VA. I thank him for his time and contributions during his career with Eastern and I wish him luck as a person. As an athlete, I won't root for him, mainly because he's now the QB at the one place I will not ever root for. I have a feeling this is going to end up backfiring for him. I think the odds are just too stacked against him joining a team and having two months to learn a system and one year to to play in it. I think things at EWU were set up much better for him than this new situation.

As for EWU, next man up! Go Eags!

 

[Rich B.]

The thing with VA is he was a projected third round pick if he never left EW. He was going to get a shot in the NFL regardless. Success at Oregon as a QB does not mean it helps your draft status. Clearly it is a system. Look at the QB's before Mariota since Chip became head coach. Neither Masoli or Thomas were even drafted. Mariota's stock has dropped from #1 to #6 on most draft boards because they realize at UO more than half of your throws are to guys with no one within 5 yards of them. Mariota has elite level speed but his throwing statistics are as much a product of the system. Adams is following a QB who was in the system for 4 years and started three of them. He is following the Heisman winner. Never follow the legend because most likely whatever you do will not be appreciated. Not sure he did a great service for himself in terms of NFL but with that aside wanting to compete at the FBS level for a top five team is understandable.

 

[nwray1]

I wish Vernon Adams nothing but the best. It is going to be fascinating to watch how this all plays out for him. We have attended the Eagles' BCS opening games the past four years, and plan to be in Eugene to watch this one also. I know it's going to be a great season for Eastern, once again!

 

[EWUfan]

This may be a dumb question but does this mean he no longer can practice with the team in spring ball? And..when does spring ball start? Can anyone go and watch?

 

[EWURanger]

This may be a dumb question but does this mean he no longer can practice with the team in spring ball? And..when does spring ball start? Can anyone go and watch?

He can no longer take part in any team functions, to include Spring Ball. I'm sure he'll be working on things with some of his former teammates in the offseason, though.

 

[GreatDayToBeAnEagle]

Maybe VA will make the NFL and get crazy rich and donate back to EWU to complete the Gateway Project.
That's about the only way I'll be OK with this.

 

[MonroeDuck11]

Not living up to his part of the agreement? Scholarships are given on a year to year basis.. He has been given his scholarship for 2014-15 for playing football in 2014-15. He's done that. If he announced he's going pro would you expect them to pull is financial aid?

Some of you are so angry it's silly. Be happy for the kid, he's improved his chances of making a career out of football.

Now that Adams has announced he is no longer a member of the team is the university obligated to provide him scholarships funds for winter and springs terms or can they give that money to someone else? It seems to me that since he is not living up to his part of the agreement he ought to have to pay all of his expenses until he graduates. Oh wait, never mind that was a stupid question, Phil Knight/OU have probably already taken care of that pesky little detail.

 

[clawman1]

Heard a rumor that if UO does take VA that they will still pay us for the first game, but change the date to a couple years later so EWU doesnt play VA... Wonder if its true or not.

buying out the game and rescheduling would be the ethical thing to do.

Why would they need to spend the 500k and have an opening on their schedule. They can easily just leave his sit on the bench, which may happen... a lot!

 

[QuackAttack]

As a Duck fan I've been following this thread for the last couple weeks to see how y'all felt about VA and what kind of player and person we were getting. I am so glad I found this board for multiple reasons. I think it's really cool to see the positive reactions supporting Adams and believing in VA no matter what. I have definitely been encouraged to read that VA meant so much to the school and many of its fans.

I am more happy though to see so many petulent, crybaby children claiming Oregon did something wrong and abused some rules. It's always funny to see people believe that college football players take blood oathes to a school and owe their lives to fans. The only thing Adams owed to EWU was to earn his degree and he did that.

It is not foul at all for him to move up. He took advantage of a good rule that exists for good reasons. Reasons that include getting the opportunity of a lifetime at Oregon. This will be way better for him than staying at EWU whether he plays or not. If he can't compete against some college kids in Eugene, how can he expect to compete with NFL professionals?

Guys leave FBS teams to go to the FCS level all the time (Oregon lost two guys to FCS programs this offseason alone). It's about time someone took advantage of an opportunity and moved up a level. I supported Jeremiah Masoli in 2010 and rooted for Ole Miss that year after he used the rule to go there (and he did not leave Eugene under good terms at all). I believe in "Once a Duck, Always a Duck" whether gys leave as transfers, give up football, or get booted for legal trouble. You certainly don't have to like Oregon and you can hate on VA all you want but supporting his decision or hating on him shows your true colors as a fan as to whether you really care about the guys you root for or not.

Go Ducks.

P.S. We're UO. OU is Oklahoma. It's a fairly important distinction.

 

[clawman1]

:thumb:

Not living up to his part of the agreement? Scholarships are given on a year to year basis.. He has been given his scholarship for 2014-15 for playing football in 2014-15. He's done that. If he announced he's going pro would you expect them to pull is financial aid?

Some of you are so angry it's silly. Be happy for the kid, he's improved his chances of making a career out of football.

Now that Adams has announced he is no longer a member of the team is the university obligated to provide him scholarships funds for winter and springs terms or can they give that money to someone else? It seems to me that since he is not living up to his part of the agreement he ought to have to pay all of his expenses until he graduates. Oh wait, never mind that was a stupid question, Phil Knight/OU have probably already taken care of that pesky little detail.

The size of the pockets at Eastern are thimbles compared to pockets @ Oregon. I would have pulled his scholly the day he was given a release.

 

[DefendtheRed]

As a Duck fan I've been following this thread for the last couple weeks to see how y'all felt about VA and what kind of player and person we were getting. I am so glad I found this board for multiple reasons. I think it's really cool to see the positive reactions supporting Adams and believing in VA no matter what. I have definitely been encouraged to read that VA meant so much to the school and many of its fans.

I am more happy though to see so many petulent, crybaby children claiming Oregon did something wrong and abused some rules. It's always funny to see people believe that college football players take blood oathes to a school and owe their lives to fans. The only thing Adams owed to EWU was to earn his degree and he did that.

It is not foul at all for him to move up. He took advantage of a good rule that exists for good reasons. Reasons that include getting the opportunity of a lifetime at Oregon. This will be way better for him than staying at EWU whether he plays or not. If he can't compete against some college kids in Eugene, how can he expect to compete with NFL professionals?

Guys leave FBS teams to go to the FCS level all the time (Oregon lost two guys to FCS programs this offseason alone). It's about time someone took advantage of an opportunity and moved up a level. I supported Jeremiah Masoli in 2010 and rooted for Ole Miss that year after he used the rule to go there (and he did not leave Eugene under good terms at all). I believe in "Once a Duck, Always a Duck" whether gys leave as transfers, give up football, or get booted for legal trouble. You certainly don't have to like Oregon and you can hate on VA all you want but supporting his decision or hating on him shows your true colors as a fan as to whether you really care about the guys you root for or not.

Go Ducks.

P.S. We're UO. OU is Oklahoma. It's a fairly important distinction.

Ok, smartass, let me ask you this question: Would you have rooted for Masoli had Oregon played Old Miss the first game of the season that he enrolled there? You seem to be missing the point here.

P.S. - He was projected as a 3rd rounder in next year's draft. How does sitting on the bench at OU improve his chances?

 

[GROUND&POUND]

As a Duck fan I've been following this thread for the last couple weeks to see how y'all felt about VA and what kind of player and person we were getting. I am so glad I found this board for multiple reasons. I think it's really cool to see the positive reactions supporting Adams and believing in VA no matter what. I have definitely been encouraged to read that VA meant so much to the school and many of its fans.

I am more happy though to see so many petulent, crybaby children claiming Oregon did something wrong and abused some rules. It's always funny to see people believe that college football players take blood oathes to a school and owe their lives to fans. The only thing Adams owed to EWU was to earn his degree and he did that.

It is not foul at all for him to move up. He took advantage of a good rule that exists for good reasons. Reasons that include getting the opportunity of a lifetime at Oregon. This will be way better for him than staying at EWU whether he plays or not. If he can't compete against some college kids in Eugene, how can he expect to compete with NFL professionals?

Guys leave FBS teams to go to the FCS level all the time (Oregon lost two guys to FCS programs this offseason alone). It's about time someone took advantage of an opportunity and moved up a level. I supported Jeremiah Masoli in 2010 and rooted for Ole Miss that year after he used the rule to go there (and he did not leave Eugene under good terms at all). I believe in "Once a Duck, Always a Duck" whether gys leave as transfers, give up football, or get booted for legal trouble. You certainly don't have to like Oregon and you can hate on VA all you want but supporting his decision or hating on him shows your true colors as a fan as to whether you really care about the guys you root for or not.

Go Ducks.

P.S. We're UO. OU is Oklahoma. It's a fairly important distinction.

1,000 uniform designs. Zero National Championships. That won't change this year!

 

[air045]

Good luck VA! Your success will be a great recruiting tool! I think it's an high risk/high reward call that only he and his family can make. He owes EWU nothing at this point, because he has done his job at a high level.

These players are in a system that provides opportunities for all involved from coaches, ADs, trainers, players, Universities and etc. Make no mistake, they all make decisions that's best for each.
I'm excited about moving on, and i think it's important that we turn the page re- focus on the things that matter the most, like field upgrades! With EWU teams thriving and NCAA changes coming soon- I think that's were we must keep our eyes on and not get distracted.

Thanks VA- I wish you luck- but now it time we turn the page and get our program to the next level! just my two cents :thumb:

 

[LDopaPDX]

As a Duck fan I've been following this thread for the last couple weeks to see how y'all felt about VA and what kind of player and person we were getting. I am so glad I found this board for multiple reasons. I think it's really cool to see the positive reactions supporting Adams and believing in VA no matter what. I have definitely been encouraged to read that VA meant so much to the school and many of its fans.

I am more happy though to see so many petulent, crybaby children claiming Oregon did something wrong and abused some rules. It's always funny to see people believe that college football players take blood oathes to a school and owe their lives to fans. The only thing Adams owed to EWU was to earn his degree and he did that.

It is not foul at all for him to move up. He took advantage of a good rule that exists for good reasons. Reasons that include getting the opportunity of a lifetime at Oregon. This will be way better for him than staying at EWU whether he plays or not. If he can't compete against some college kids in Eugene, how can he expect to compete with NFL professionals?

Guys leave FBS teams to go to the FCS level all the time (Oregon lost two guys to FCS programs this offseason alone). It's about time someone took advantage of an opportunity and moved up a level. I supported Jeremiah Masoli in 2010 and rooted for Ole Miss that year after he used the rule to go there (and he did not leave Eugene under good terms at all). I believe in "Once a Duck, Always a Duck" whether gys leave as transfers, give up football, or get booted for legal trouble. You certainly don't have to like Oregon and you can hate on VA all you want but supporting his decision or hating on him shows your true colors as a fan as to whether you really care about the guys you root for or not.

Go Ducks.

P.S. We're UO. OU is Oklahoma. It's a fairly important distinction.

1,000 uniform designs. Zero National Championships. That won't change this year!

Yeah, seriously. Fuck Oregon. With or without Vernon Adams. What Oregon fans say is that "this is a great opportunity..." Yeah, well look at that through our eyes. Most of the people saying that nonsense are fans who have no real affiliation to the program other than as an alumni. Many of the people you will see on this board played ball at Eastern, worked for the program, or are prolific donors. Why would we support someone essentially telling us we aren't good enough for his services? This is especially true when he was a no-star QB with one other D-1 offer.

The worst part is that Vernon will likely throw for about 1,000 yards and run for another 500 if our defense looks like they did in 2014.

 

[LDopaPDX]

This may be a dumb question but does this mean he no longer can practice with the team in spring ball? And..when does spring ball start? Can anyone go and watch?

I believe his schollie would be revoked next quarter. He'd already have been paid for Winter quarter. As of now, though, I believe he wouldn't be allowed at team activities-- including weight rooms, tutors, etc. Obviously, it would be stupid for Eastern to pay for an opponent's player to improve their game!

 

[Ryan31088]

These bitter comments about Vernon are very disheartening.

The people who don't understand why he left probably didn't want to understand anyway.

 

[EWURanger]

These bitter comments about Vernon are very disheartening.

The people who don't understand why he left probably didn't want to understand anyway.

I think there are legitimate points on both sides of the argument.

At the end of the day, great programs find ways to replace great players, and that's exactly what we'll do.

 

[LDopaPDX]

These bitter comments about Vernon are very disheartening.

The people who don't understand why he left probably didn't want to understand anyway.

Hey, I love the kid. I've met him; he's a great guy. He's charismatic and charming. He invited my kids to play catch with him. If he ever needs a job in the future, I'd be more than willing to give him an interview and hire him.

But I'm an Eastern-first kind of guy. He decided today that he didn't want to be part of our program. That sucks, mainly because Vernon was a good fit at Eastern and Eastern was a good fit for Vernon. Yet he chose to exploit what is essentially an NCAA a loophole to leave the program at his first opportunity.

I'll save my love for the kids that want to be part of this team and university... At this point, he's just a kid playing for Oregon.

 

[FormerEag]

The worst part of this whole deal going forward is now we have to deal with Duck fans on our board. I lived in portland for three years and i'd say, collectively, they are the worst and most arrogant fan base I've ever encountered.

 

[EWURanger]

"OU". :lol: