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Day of Days: #8 EWU vs #1 NDSU GDT

clawman said:
eaglesfootball said:
NDSU is at -20 1/2 points on 5 dimes.
And how do you think the spread got to that point?

Because you can count on one hand the number of times they've lost at home in the past 5 years. I think it has only happened twice.
 
Hambone said:
clawman said:
eaglesfootball said:
NDSU is at -20 1/2 points on 5 dimes.
And how do you think the spread got to that point?

Because you can count on one hand the number of times they've lost at home in the past 5 years. I think it has only happened twice.
Actually no, The oddsmakers in Vegas do not care about the skill levels of any team. They only care about balance. Balance of bettors in each side. Apparently there are far more NDSU bettors at this point so the line is heavily in their favor. As more EWU bettors place money down, due to what seems like a "good bet", the line will go more towards the middle. The Vegas line says nothing about who might win only a measure of fan interest.On another note, where can I get some of that??
 
lakesbison said:
NDSU is NOT Washington State. thats all I gotta say about this game.

The Vegas Line is RIght. 41 -17 NDSU

True...but I don't think NDSU has seen an offense like EWU's since...well....2010 playoffs...
 
Ahhhh yes....look what the ticks brought in. It's like 2010 all over again, but this time with probably even more obnoxiousness after some success. Welcome back, lakesbison, welcome back.
 
Unfortunately I have seen this story from EWU too many times. They show up on the FBS stage and play GREAT. Then the next week fall flat vs a tough FCS opponent. I think NDSU Defense is much better than WSU, espeically the front 7. Our young, inexperienced OL will have their hands full all game, and Gubrud's pocket wont be as luxurious as it was vs WSU. I say, 34-17 Bison.
 
lakesbison said:
NDSU is NOT Washington State. thats all I gotta say about this game.

The Vegas Line is RIght. 41 -17 NDSU

You might beat us, but I'd be surprised if it was by that much. I'd put ndsu as a two touchdown favorite because of their great defense and playing at home.
 
JasonEWU said:
Unfortunately I have seen this story from EWU too many times. They show up on the FBS stage and play GREAT. Then the next week fall flat vs a tough FCS opponent. I think NDSU Defense is much better than WSU, espeically the front 7. Our young, inexperienced OL will have their hands full all game, and Gubrud's pocket wont be as luxurious as it was vs WSU. I say, 34-17 Bison.

I see where you are coming from, but there is a huge difference from playing great against an FBS opponent and losing, and playing great against one and winning...easier to carry the momentum from a well played game against an FBS opponent after you win...
 
JasonEWU said:
Unfortunately I have seen this story from EWU too many times. They show up on the FBS stage and play GREAT. Then the next week fall flat vs a tough FCS opponent. I think NDSU Defense is much better than WSU, espeically the front 7. Our young, inexperienced OL will have their hands full all game, and Gubrud's pocket wont be as luxurious as it was vs WSU. I say, 34-17 Bison.

No way are we held to 17 points in any game this season. And you can take that to the bank.
 
JasonEWU said:
Unfortunately I have seen this story from EWU too many times. They show up on the FBS stage and play GREAT. Then the next week fall flat vs a tough FCS opponent.

yes, and this will be the challenge. can the team come out with the same kid of emotion they did on saturday, without letting the WSU game get to their heads? we shall see, but I wouldn't count us out.
 
JasonEWU said:
Unfortunately I have seen this story from EWU too many times. They show up on the FBS stage and play GREAT. Then the next week fall flat vs a tough FCS opponent. I think NDSU Defense is much better than WSU, espeically the front 7. Our young, inexperienced OL will have their hands full all game, and Gubrud's pocket wont be as luxurious as it was vs WSU. I say, 34-17 Bison.

Would you really call last year against UNI falling flat? They were within three points with an injured Kupp, and a less effective QB, and aside from a late game INT, in a good position to win. I can see what you are saying at times, but this is a different team. All this stuff about "historically" does not apply. I don't care they are playing in a dome, have supposedly not fared well after an emotional win, or anything else. 2014, after losing a close game to UW, we 52 on MSU in an incredible game! I would definitely not have considered that game "falling flat". The team was fully invested. They went on to win four straight after that as well, three of them with our back up QB.

After beating Oregon State, we didn't fall flat the next week. They beat Western Oregon 41 - 14. Then struggled against Toledo. Did they have a Beaver hangover?

2012, beat UI, play a close game against the Cougs, then rattle off five straight wins.

I don't know where you are coming from, but from what I can see, it's not accurate.

I am not concerned at all with the energy EWU will bring to this game. I think it will be within one score if everyone stays healthy throughout the game. I think the Bison style could really create trouble for us if they are able to impose their will upon us. I usually like it when EWU defers to receive until the second half, but I think in this one, chances are whoever has the ball first will be able to establish the tone of the game. I don't think the Bison D will be able to stop all of our weapons. In most of our games against the incredible Valley defenses, our offense has still produced (38 vs NDSU in 2010, 51 vs ISUr in 2012, 41 vs SDSU in 2013, 46 vs ISUr in 2014, and 35 vs UNI last year). The lone anomaly, and maybe what is in your mind is in 2011, when we lost to UW, and then only scored 17 against a weak USD team.

The challenge will be more regarding them plodding along with a slow ball control gameplan that doesn't allow our offense to get in rhythm, or give us enough scoring opportunities. Additionally, our offense must be mistake free, or they will still be able to slow down the game. I think our defense will do good enough to keep us in the game. I think this is going to be a great game for even the casual football fan, a clash of two different philosophies. I predict 38 - 35 NDSU, with the edge being that we are still young on the O-line, and they have veteran players there on the best defense in the FCS, and they are playing at home. As with WSU, my greatest concern with our non-con games is that we stay healthy, because there is no doubt we will be in the mix with the BSC, and I think the upside of this team learning as the season progresses is going to produce a force to reckon with by the time playoffs arrive.
 
lakesbison said:
NDSU Defense will probably just play its normal coverages, no changes, Deluca is back starting at MLB.

Ewu defense will just stack the box. NDSU has noodle arm for QB anyway.
 
Let us remember an average Montana team beat NDSU (at Montana) and an under average U. of South Dakota Coyotes (5-6) team beat them in Fargo last season. Now it's our turn!
 
There is no way that Kupp racks up yards after the carry like usual. Check out the first highlight.

http://www.ncaa.com/video/football/2016-09-05/fcs-football-top-plays-week-one

They're the gods of football. They are unbeatable. It won't be close.
 
Can some of you guys go onto the prediction thread and pick against Eastern? That seemed to be lucky for us last week. I won't post on the the thread because I believe it to be bad luck to make predictions. I'll view it, but don't want to give us shitty karma by posting. I did it a couple of times last year and I suspect that's the reason we crashed and burned at the end of the season.

I once had a DI coach- who shall remain nameless- tell me that "if I get diarrhea in a season opener and we play great, I'll wear those same stinky drawers all season long." Superstitions are real.
 
LDopaPDX said:
Can some of you guys go onto the prediction thread and pick against Eastern? That seemed to be lucky for us last week. I won't post on the the thread because I believe it to be bad luck to make predictions. I'll view it, but don't want to give us shitty karma by posting. I did it a couple of times last year and I suspect that's the reason we crashed and burned at the end of the season.

I once had a DI coach- who shall remain nameless- tell me that "if I get diarrhea in a season opener and we play great, I'll wear those same stinky drawers all season long." Superstitions are real.

In all honesty...every time I pick EWU to lose, they win. Heck, I did it in half the games in the 2010 season! That is part of my superstition...I just don't know if it requires I believe it for it to work.
 

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